Seriously. That was dumb. And you have 3 hours and 5 min Vince, do you really need a 12 min overrun (past 10:05)

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You can't blame Pittsburgh for this reaction. They're just happy Heyman wasn't a 20 year-old, and Hunter wasn't their QB.

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The only show up once a year career. So who is going to save Trips after Lesnar ends him at WM?

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CSFMB: Home of the small minded

If you lose, HHH, you will no longer be able to have 2 matches a year!!!

Even the No Holds Barred stipulation is dumb. I liked the rumoured UFC match stipulation better.

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I'm watching the PTP/Cena segment. This is horrible on so many levels, I don't even know where to start.

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I think they should have left the Triple H-Lesnar match at No Holds Barred, now I definately think Triple H wins.

Meltzer said on the LAW last night that Jericho-Fandango dancing with the Stars was a strong possibility.

They haven't setup these matches well, not much with Cena-Rock, Cena out in first 5 minutes and same music package from last week.

Then to setup 2 matches, take a guy from one with Ryback out of the six man tag and put him vs Mark Henry and put somebody else in his place.

Embrace the Hate.

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U don't like to see guys say no to title shots, but I did like how they are doing the tag title match with Ziggler and Big E vs Kane and Bryan.

Just throwing this out, with Ziggler saying no, do we see a possible turn here to a fan favorite, after Mania, since AJ agreed to the match.

I'm definitely starting to accept the negativity surrounding the build. The matches with a plan have not advanced the last couple weeks, and the other matches are clearly being called on the fly. I haven't watched the Punk/Taker promo yet, but they are both going to be limited physically. Ugh.

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Yes. Something will happen with Ziggler at, and after Mania. He's caught up in the crowd right now.

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Ill throw this out for after Mania, since Del Rio isnt getting over with the crowd, have him win at Mania, go back to being heel, turn Ziggler and setup a Ziggler-Del RIo fued. I think those 2 could have some good matches.

On the build, we got 2 more weeks of Raw, they need the Rock to show up, that's your main event and basically the last 2 weeks, we haven't got much, video package and Cena for like 10 minutes tonight.

Last year, that was your close every week heading into Mania.

Ill ask this is the problem with the build for the 3 big matches, 4 of the 6 guys aren't guys we see every week, only Cena and Punk are their every week.

After Mania, Taker will be gone, there saying Rock will still be around, Triple H will be gone win or lose, and I don't know the plan with Lesnar.

I kind of think the matches that are gonna save this card are the following

Shield vs Orton/Sheamus/Big Show(Hear me out first) There isn't 1 guy let alone 3 guys that are gonna bust their ass/bump all over the place more than the Shield. I kind of expect big things from them.

I think also Punk vs Taker should be great. I kind of feel Punk HAS to be pissed that he carried the ball successfully for over a year and than they just throw him into a match with Taker with such a shitty buildup. Taker's promo last night was bullshit and I think he needs to step up his game and show Punk the RESPECT this match and Punk deserves.

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Free Meltzer show today. I haven't listened or watched Raw yet, so I have no clue if it's worth a listen.

http://www.f4wonline.com/component/cont ... -tons-more

FREE TODAY! Mar 19 Wrestling Observer Radio: Bryan Alvarez and Dave Meltzer talk Raw in detail, road to Mania, new matches, Punk injury, TNA tapings through February 2014, Flair and WrestleCon, UFC 158 buyrate notes, your questions and tons more!

Wrestling Observer Radio with Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez returns today to talk all the news in wrestling and MMA including a full review of a pretty lame Raw from Monday night, the road to WrestleMania with new matches, details on the TNA tapings through February, why Flair isn't doing WrestleCon at this point, CM Punk injury and what the hell happened on Raw, UFC buyrate notes for 158, your questions and so much more.

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They shit all over everything, including the Punk promo.

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Keeping Score's drunken, stream of consciousness rants are much better than anything the WWE is shitting out right now with the exception of Punk, and I think that's 99% his talent. This is supposed to be the time of year that Raw is can't miss. My viewing consists of coming here and following this thread, and typing in " __ __ /13 Raw CM Punk" into YouTube.

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I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out. - Bill Hicks

Let's do it for Johnny!

I'm not going to say JR is a shill for the company. But he definitely leans to a positive nature, always suggesting to see where it goes. About last night:

Perplexing Raw Monday night in Pittsburgh. Obviously, the live crowd was not into some aspects of the broadcast which resonated at home. Not the hot start to the broadcast that we've experienced on RAW the past few weeks.

That's about equal to someone here saying it was the worst RAW in a long time.

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Several people= those responsible for rufus pancake patterson

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Agreed. If Taker was ok with it, and I am assuming he was because he went along with it, then no one else should bitch about it.

And you know Paul Bearer would have loved it. He would be glad his death could be good for business. That was just the kind of guy he was

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

RAW pulled a 3.08 rating. It's nice to see the numbers reflecting what is being offered right now.

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Vince is underestimating the popularity of powerhouse unscripted shows Fast and Loud and Bischoff's The Devil's ride.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Aces and Eights are gonna guest star on Devil's Ride pretty soon.

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Absofuckinglutely! William Moody was ALL about the business.

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I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out. - Bill Hicks

Let's do it for Johnny!

Listen to Bob's link of Meltzer and Alvarez. They shit on Punk segment for being distasteful.

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Do those people think his ashes are really in there??

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Apparently.

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Some of these writers are either 1. Too sensitive or 2. No sense of humor. It's fucking wrestling! Just because you managed to make a career out of it doesn't change the fact.

I've got a question for the class. Wade Keller wrote an editorial blasting Bully Ray for calling the fans burritos. HE'S A HEEL! Keller says that crosses the line. I'm not sold on that. Was it rough and probably unnesesary? Probably. But I started watching wrestling in the late 70's. I'm sure I've heard that and more through the years. Then again Keller is gay, so it probably is more inappropriate to him than it is to Joe Wrestling fan.

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I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out. - Bill Hicks

Let's do it for Johnny!

The Keller stuff all day today has been driving me crazy. Do I think it's probably unnecessary in today's world? Yes. But there's something about his stance that rubs me the wrong way. If you'll pardon the expression.

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Cesaro took another clean loss to Miz at the Smackdown tapings tonight.

Fuck this stupid fucking company.

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I was wrong.

But do you really want to be the guy pointing out bad predictions in the wrestling section?

Really?

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