So our offensive genius coach is basically going to ask Kromer for a playbook?

How is it not concerning that our coach who hasn't been paying attention to the NFL for 4-5 years doesn't even have a basic playbook?

I'm concerned that the head coach seems to be using the off season to familiarize himself with the NFL again.

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The playbook thing IMO is a non story. I am sure he has a playbook. But he is making changes to his playbook based on the league today. I am good with that. I think it shows he is a flexible guy that wants to do what works in todays NFL.

The Cutler thing IMO is way more concerning.

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No one is saying he doesnt have a playbook. He does. He can't bring the exact playbook with. He has to make changes. And he has to take input from the offensive coordinator. How is this hard for you to get?

And to me, adapting the playbook to the personnel you have is a good thing.

How do you know he hasnt been paying attention?

If you want to play semantics games then you are correct. He doesn't have a finished playbook.

My point is that I am concerned that a man who was hired as an offensive genius seems to be playing catch up for the years he missed in another country and a vastly different league. You don't think that is concerning at all?

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He doesn't, but that never stopped Brick from Bricking.

Trestman is going to be another Cutler for Brick.

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You're making that up. How does it seem that way? How do you know he is playing catch up? Is this one of those mind reading things you can do?


There is no sense in the HC being a dictator. Taking advice, and information from people on your staff is a good thing. Common sense. Collect a lot of information, use what you want.

He had another full time job. At best, he's paid as much attention to the NFL as a fan, and certainly not until December.

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The cfl thing is another debate. You're concerned his catch up is effecting his playbook. I want to know how you know this to be fact.


Taking advice from the people you hired isn't a bad thing. That's why you hire people. 1 man can't do everything.

He's an "offensive genius" who doesn't have a completed playbook who has been out of the league since 2008. How could he not be playing catchup?
This is all correct, but what does it have to do with anything? I don't know where I said he should be a dictator.

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I disagree. I think he probably always kept an eye on the NFL knowing he wanted to come back someday.

Do you know what concern means? You can be concerned about something without knowing it's 100% fact. It's possible that Trestman knows as much about NFL offense as any of the other NFL head coaches. I think it's very possible he isn't.

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Just going to assume this is one of those time you're bored and arguing just to argue, because you aren't making any sense.


Having a coach take the time to tailor a playbook to the new team he is on, can not in any way shape or form, be seen as a negative thing. And to be fair, I think he said it wasn't "polished" so maybe incomplete isn't even accurate.


For one thing, he's adding read option looks. Many NFL teams are. Since he hasn't run that, I'm sure he has some research to do. Again, not a bad thing.

I think that's possible he doesn't know as much either as well. That's why I think it's a good thing he's taking his time to research, and rely on his staff who may know some things he doesn't. A good thing.

So you think it's possible that he's playing catchup. You just want to phrase it differently.

Good talk...

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You're premise was it's bad his playbook isn't done. Now your premise is its horrible the Bears hired a cfl coach. You spray and pray. I get it. Good talk.

My second post in this thread. Pay close attention to the first sentence. Then, read the second sentence.


Looks pretty consistent to me. Even if you look at my first post, it mentions the concern of him transitioning from the CFL to the NFL and the learning curve. So basically, I've been quite consistent.

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By the way, I don't think it's horrible that the Bears hired a CFL coach. I find it concerning that he seems to be playing catchup. I said it before, but it may not matter by September, but right now I find it concerning.

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I guess I fail to see why a coach taking advice, adapting to the personnel and doing research is a bad thing. The playbook thing has no bearing on what you really care about, the fact that he hasn't been in the NFL.


Would you have been happier if he came in, didn't adapt to the personnel, didn't work with his OC and just kept the same playbook?

Yea, but there is no evidence he is playing catch up. It's possible, but we don't know that is what he is doing.

Adapting the plays to your team and working with your own coaching staff doesn't immediately mean you are playing catch up.

The playbook thing is a piece of evidence on my larger point. It clearly has some bearing.
No need to go to extremes here.
Why do you keep repeating this? There is some evidence. Remember, earlier in the thread, you admitted it was possible he didn't know as much either.

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How does it have bearing? Please elaborate.



Not an extreme, answer that question.


It's possible. I see zero evidence that is the case right now. It is also possible he is a woman.

I agree with BR. I get the feeling that Chris has his eyes closed.

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I think some of the alarmism we've seen in this thread is a bit premature, if not unwarranted. Trestman was once a top offensive coordinator for a team noted for its offensive excellence back in the early 2000s. He also had success earlier with the 49ers. He then went to the CFL and rose to the top there as well. We all know the CFL is not the NFL, but the point is he continued to enjoy success despite having to adapt to a different way of playing, and going against coaches with years of CFL experience. I think he knows what he's doing. Plus, he's anti-Martz in all the right areas: he displayed pragmatism when he said he's not looking to find players that fit the system, but rather tailor his system to fit the players. Plus there was no talk of the facile "run-pass balance." The point is scoring, not self-enslavement to some notion of "balance." His oft-cited intelligence was on full display during his introductory press conference, and that should give one confidence to expect that he can 1) take a look at his roster and ascertain what they can and can't do, and 2) create a system that is both multifaceted and in tune with what works in today's NFL. So given all that, I do think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I think a better time to start raising questions is if or when the offense looks too predictable in September.

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Well said.

Didn't Trestman say something about, each year, watching the full season's game tapes for each of the four teams in the championship games? I don't think he's been ignoring the NFL all these years - the reason he went to Canada was to put head-coaching experience on his resume with eyes on being an NFL coach. Not for the maple syrup and beavers and nationalized health care. By cracky.

I'm guessing many people on this board watch 75+ games a year too.

His full time job was following the CFL and winning there. I'm sure he had a lot of time in December and January to pay attention to the NFL but that isn't a substitute for anyone who has been doing it 12 months a year.

It should be a concern. Obviously, if Trestman is as much of an offensive genius as we are being told, he'll overcome it and we'll have a decided schemetic advantage of the other coaches but I think it's more likely he spends the next year learning on the job.

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He'll be learning on the job, but he won't be learning offensive formations.

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