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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:39 am 
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Seems like you can always find some warm bodies at LB. Remember good old #51 - Jim Morrissey.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:27 am 
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There are still starter quality LB available as well. Michael Boley, Nick Barnett, Karlos Dansby and a host of others all would be a fit if they are still looking for work in a few months and want to take the minimum. I have a feeling Urlacher is mfing himself right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 3 LB
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:34 am 
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good dolphin wrote:
There are still starter quality LB available as well. Michael Boley, Nick Barnett, Karlos Dansby and a host of others all would be a fit if they are still looking for work in a few months and want to take the minimum. I have a feeling Urlacher is mfing himself right now.

Yeah I think you are right.

Urlacher clearly thought the Bears would come back to him and give him the money he wanted and if not there would be other teams willing to do it. Does not look to be the case at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 3 LB
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The Bears have improved at the Linebacker position & are stronger at the LB position now than they were last year. I really like the cut of Emerys jib. He seems to know what hes doing, something we haven't seen from a Bears GM in many years.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 3 LB
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I'm not ready to throw rose petals at Emery's feet quite yet.

He was brought in for 1 main reason: Draft guru. He stated pre-draft last year the Bears needed "impact players" out of last year's draft.

Shea McClellan. Impact player? last year, no. Didn't really notice him a whole lot. Maybe if they change defenses somewhere down the road he shines. This year will be huge for him.

Alshon Jeffery. Loved this pick. a good number 2. I have a feeling he may end up being the best player out of last year's draft.

Evan Rodriguez. OK

Brandon Hardin, a true pick in Angeloian fashion, had injury issues in college and surprisingly missed the entire year due to injuries.

Not even sure the other picks are still on the roster.

Were any of these guys "impact players"?

Unless they trade down for more picks, Emery has to nail it with this draft. 5 picks doesn't give you a lot of wiggle room for projects. Nut busting time for the new G.M.

I do like the FA signings so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Need 3 LB
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:26 am 
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Rose petals? The draft is 70% of what makes a GM. This FA is just catching up for past mistakes.

Emery has signed returners in each of the two years he has been GM. His coach has said Hester is only going to be a returner. When are they going to take the next step and just release Devin?

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 Post subject: Re: Need 3 LB
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:28 am 
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Rose petals? The draft is 70% of what makes a GM. This FA is just catching up for past mistakes.

Emery has signed returners in each of the two years he has been GM. His coach has said Hester is only going to be a returner. When are they going to take the next step and just release Devin?

Scorehead lives in a world where Shay (that's how its spelled in Scoreheadia) McClellin was drafted as Urlacher's replacement and will be moved to LB immediately and begin racking All Pro seasons.


Never mind that Tillman audibly laughed at that suggestion last week.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Rose petals? The draft is 70% of what makes a GM. This FA is just catching up for past mistakes.

Emery has signed returners in each of the two years he has been GM. His coach has said Hester is only going to be a returner. When are they going to take the next step and just release Devin?

Scorehead lives in a world where Shay (that's how its spelled in Scoreheadia) McClellin was drafted as Urlacher's replacement and will be moved to LB immediately and begin racking All Pro seasons.

Never mind that Tillman audibly laughed at that suggestion last week.


Tillman isn't the head coach. Shea Mac has a better chance to succeed at LB than DE in any system, plus the Bears just signed another DE. I'm not saying that he'll be a pro bowler, because I don't think that, but if ever there was a player who should be switched to LB, it is McClellin. Either way the Bears LB corps is better now than they were last year. I still would like to see Dansby &/or Smith added to the Bears.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 3 LB
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So you think Shea might move to linebacker and might be decent?

See that's not how it came off.


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No reason he can't be a serviceable DE. I mean we've had worse. I mean real BAAAD. Bryan Robinson types.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
So you think Shea might move to linebacker and might be decent?

See that's not how it came off.


Yes. Decent, average, serviceable, etc...

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Scorehead, if Shea, a 1st round pick (impact player), is moved to become a "decent, serviceable" LB would you still think that Emery knows what he's doing? Because that sounds a lot like the shit the last GM was peddling. Decent or serviceable would be later picks. These are the kind of 1st round picks that put the Bears in the mess they're in.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
Scorehead, if Shea, a 1st round pick (impact player), is moved to become a "decent, serviceable" LB would you still think that Emery knows what he's doing? Because that sounds a lot like the shit the last GM was peddling. Decent or serviceable would be later picks. These are the kind of 1st round picks that put the Bears in the mess they're in.


Look, I wasn't a big fan of the McClellin pick at #1, but based on everything else that Emery has done I'm willing to give him a mulligan on the Shea pick. I'll be concerned if he has a bad streak like Angelo did with a bunch of horrible draft picks.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
So you think Shea might move to linebacker and might be decent?

See that's not how it came off.


Yes. Decent, average, serviceable, etc...


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Look, I wasn't a big fan of the McClellin pick at #1, but based on everything else that Emery has done I'm willing to give him a mulligan on the Shea pick. I'll be concerned if he has a bad streak like Angelo did with a bunch of horrible draft picks.


I wish I could be so gracious. The 1st thing I thought of when I heard his intro presser was a more polished Angelo. But he was supposedly the guy brought in to successfully draft. We'll see.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
Scorehead, if Shea, a 1st round pick (impact player), is moved to become a "decent, serviceable" LB would you still think that Emery knows what he's doing? Because that sounds a lot like the shit the last GM was peddling. Decent or serviceable would be later picks. These are the kind of 1st round picks that put the Bears in the mess they're in.


Decent would be a huge improvement for the Bears.

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Alshon Jeffery. Loved this pick. a good number 2. I have a feeling he may end up being the best player out of last year's draft.

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Why is that such a shocking statement?

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Why is that such a shocking statement?

I read it wrong originally. I think it's pretty clear that he is the best player from the Bears draft class last year.

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Bad self-editing. Should have put "last year's Bears draft".


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 Post subject: Re: Need 3 LB
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We are all working with the understanding that last year's draft included a rush only DE who had 2.5 sacks, a S who has never played S and one year later has still never played S, and an undersized TE not known as a blocker who was moved to a blocking FB, correct?

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We are all working with the understanding that last year's draft included a rush only DE who had 2.5 sacks, a S who has never played S and one year later has still never played S, and an undersized TE not known as a blocker who was moved to a blocking FB, correct?

Correct. It was a horrendous draft. But Jeffrey looks like he can play.

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We are all working with the understanding that last year's draft included a rush only DE who had 2.5 sacks, a S who has never played S and one year later has still never played S, and an undersized TE not known as a blocker who was moved to a blocking FB, correct?

Correct. It was a horrendous draft. But Jeffrey looks like he can play.

Way too early to say that.


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Way too early to say that.


+1. shay or shea whatever the guy's name. he looked OK. unlike a total bustout like john thierry who was completely out of place on a football field. General McClellen looks like he enjoys mixing it up. That's half the battle right there.

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Mclellin pretty much got absorbed by any OT who got his hands on him. He was a pure speed rusher. I agree that the book isn't finished on McLellin but I haven't seen anything much better than Thierry.

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He looked fast but he also looked like he didn't know what he was doing. I'm curious about why he drafted a guy in the first round that couldn't contribute on day 1.

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I agree that a 1st rounder should have been a stud right away. I also think though that the Lovie/Emery thing is a little unknown as far as what the plan was. I think for smart fans and meatballs alike this year is to see what that plan was and grade him.

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I'm curious about why he drafted a guy in the first round that couldn't contribute on day 1.


And there's my problem with Emery. And if he thought McClellan could, I'm even more worried.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
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I'm curious about why he drafted a guy in the first round that couldn't contribute on day 1.


And there's my problem with Emery. And if he thought McClellan could, I'm even more worried.


The McClellan pick is more than offset by Emery's free agent signings.

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No they don't. These FA's are being brought in on 1 year deals. Your 1st round picks are supposed to be the cornerstones of your team. If you think the Bears are going to spend their way out of bad 1st round picks and somehow be successful, you're wrong. And it totally negates the idea of hiring a "draft guru" as your GM.


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