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Great win. The fact that I predicted it makes it a little sweeter. I love this Kirk Hinrich. If the Bulls didn't dump him I really believe they would have beaten the Heat and won the title a couple years ago. Thibs is a hell of a coach. They Bulls were missing half their roster and the Heat played well but the Bulls found a way to win. Heart can beat talent.

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here. He can obviously still defend, but the guy still can't hit a shot. It would be nice if my PG could knock down an open jumper once in awhile. Every little bit helps.

That said, I was excited last night for the win and all but all it really means is that the Bulls can try REALLY REALLY HARD and occasionally beat a good team. That's fine, but they're still not making it out of the first round.

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Thanks for the description. I took nothing away from the game that means anything i.e. that would feed into a B&B hate segment. All I can say is it was a big game to see due to the streak etc and I was entertained quite a bit. I guess that is good enough NBA for me.

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The Bulls aren't even a decent team.



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This doesn't change that, KS.
Decent, yes.

Man. Between this and the White Sox shit you actually seem to be a terrible sports fan. You're like Randy Quaid in Major League 2.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:22 am 
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I don't think I'm terrible, Frank. I'm just beaten and battered by the failure of my favorite teams. I'm bitter. Very bitter. Don't hold it against me. It's not my fault.

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So was Randy Quaid in ML 2. You can be bitter, but often times its not even close. To say the Bulls are "not even a decent team" is just wrong. Of course they aren't an elite team as they sit now, but they are decent. a 4-6 seed in the NBA is just that, decent. The Bulls are the picture of decent.

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Great win. The fact that I predicted it makes it a little sweeter. I love this Kirk Hinrich. If the Bulls didn't dump him I really believe they would have beaten the Heat and won the title a couple years ago. Thibs is a hell of a coach. They Bulls were missing half their roster and the Heat played well but the Bulls found a way to win. Heart can beat talent.

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here. He can obviously still defend, but the guy still can't hit a shot. It would be nice if my PG could knock down an open jumper once in awhile. Every little bit helps.

That said, I was excited last night for the win and all but all it really means is that the Bulls can try REALLY REALLY HARD and occasionally beat a good team. That's fine, but they're still not making it out of the first round.


I'm not. I called this last week. I said if the Bulls are relatively healthy and Kirk can turn back the clock to 2008 for a month that the Bulls could beat the Heat even if Rose isn't completely 100%. We saw a little of 2008 last night. With the days off between games in the playoffs I believe he could stay healthy.

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Im far from being well informed about the Association, but the Heat should be embarrassed about losing to the team the Bulls put on the floor last night.

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Im far from being well informed about the Association, but the Heat should be embarrassed about losing to the team the Bulls put on the floor last night.

I agree. They should not have lost to this Bulls team. They got outplayed, plain and simple. Lebron can be upset about the physical play, but they had chances to win that game and they can only blame themselves for not doing so.

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Im far from being well informed about the Association, but the Heat should be embarrassed about losing to the team the Bulls put on the floor last night.


Agreed. The Bulls were missing arguably their 2 best players and a couple more top of the rotation guys. Jimmy Butler is the man.

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Jimmy Butler is the man.

He's progressed so much over the course of the season. He's gonna be a good player. He could start for this team right now.

I've said before, Rose and Butler have barely shared the floor together. Rose is going to make him so much better once they build that chemistry.

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I agree. He's worked his ass off and deserves a lot of credit. Thibs and the Bulls management deserve credit for finding and developing a guy like that. He'll be the reason Deng isn't around after next season.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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Jimmy Butler is the man.

He's progressed so much over the course of the season. He's gonna be a good player. He could start for this team right now.

It's either going to be him or Bellanelli starting for the rest of the season.

I don't think Hamilton will ever wear a Bulls uniform again. I'm thinking his injury is more invented, and they just told him to go home. I don't even think he's with the team right now. They probably offered him a buyout, and he turned it down. Good riddance.

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Jimmy Butler is the man.

He's progressed so much over the course of the season. He's gonna be a good player. He could start for this team right now.

I've said before, Rose and Butler have barely shared the floor together. Rose is going to make him so much better once they build that chemistry.

What is Butlers game? can he hit the open shots that the Rose drives will open up for him or is he an attack the basket dude?

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Jimmy Butler is the man.

He's progressed so much over the course of the season. He's gonna be a good player. He could start for this team right now.

It's either going to be him or Bellanelli starting for the rest of the season.

I don't think Hamilton will ever wear a Bulls uniform again. I'm thinking his injury is more invented, and they just told him to go home. I don't even think he's with the team right now. They probably offered him a buyout, and he turned it down. Good riddance.


I thought I heard a report that he was on his way back?

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Jimmy Butler is the man.

He's progressed so much over the course of the season. He's gonna be a good player. He could start for this team right now.

I've said before, Rose and Butler have barely shared the floor together. Rose is going to make him so much better once they build that chemistry.

What is Butlers game? can he hit the open shots that the Rose drives will open up for him or is he an attack the basket dude?

He's more of an attack guy, but his shot has gotten better. That has made him more dangerous. Whereas last year, he'd be hesitant to take those open shots, now he's shooting and making them. He could still stand to improve his shot a bit, but that'll come with more work.

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Nas wrote:
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Jimmy Butler is the man.

He's progressed so much over the course of the season. He's gonna be a good player. He could start for this team right now.

It's either going to be him or Bellanelli starting for the rest of the season.

I don't think Hamilton will ever wear a Bulls uniform again. I'm thinking his injury is more invented, and they just told him to go home. I don't even think he's with the team right now. They probably offered him a buyout, and he turned it down. Good riddance.


I thought I heard a report that he was on his way back?

Damn, you're right. I guess he's doing light workouts now, but I had just read about a week ago that reports were saying he was probably done for the year.

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The Bulls guy on M&H this morning said that he talked to Rip and he was 7-10 days away from being back.

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Guess I'm wrong then.

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He's already a really good defender and he's getting more confidence on the offensive end. He could be an all start in a few years.

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The Bulls guy on M&H this morning said that he talked to Rip and he was 7-10 days away from being back.

Shit. I know he was away from the team for awhile, and I guess I just thought there was more to the story. Too much wishful thinking on my part.

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Guess I'm wrong then.

What? No not really. That chart matches up with most of what you said.

Looked like more outside shots than I would have expected. He seems to have gotten more confidence in that jumper than I thought.

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Thanks for the description. I took nothing away from the game that means anything i.e. that would feed into a B&B hate segment. All I can say is it was a big game to see due to the streak etc and I was entertained quite a bit. I guess that is good enough NBA for me.


I completely agree. Although I'm one of those guys who thinks there's room for considerable improvement on this Bulls team, last night was a blast and I was glad to see the Bulls take it to the Heat. Hinrich ripping the ball away from Bosh was awesome, and so was Boozer surprisingly making an impact play at the end of the game. I think the star of the game was Thibodeau for having a team without two of its most important players ready to go at a healthy Heat team that clearly wanted to keep the streak going.

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I guess the Miami Mob called off the hit on Boozer. He used to go into a shell against the Heat but he has played well most of the year against them and some of the better teams in the league.

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I guess the Miami Mob called off the hit on Boozer. He used to go into a shell against the Heat but he has played well most of the year against them and some of the better teams in the league.

He's still soft at the rim. The guy missed 2 or 3 easy layups where he could have got them if he made a strong move to the basket.

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I guess the Miami Mob called off the hit on Boozer. He used to go into a shell against the Heat but he has played well most of the year against them and some of the better teams in the league.

He's still soft at the rim. The guy missed 2 or 3 easy layups where he could have got them if he made a strong move to the basket.


Baby steps. A healthy Gibson is still a better option to me.

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Instead of blaming hard fouls for losing this game (which would account for all of like 4-5 points over the whole fuckin game) how about you blame lacadasical rebounding (real good example when it was 9-2 and Heat completely gave up on even trying for a rebound, were all in the Bulls offensive side of the court, and the Bulls had to have a lucky save to keep it from skittering out of bounds... even a mediocre effort on the Heat part would have retained possession), bad free throw shooting, bad passing, and too much fucking whining. Oh and the Kirk "hard foul" was ALL James plowing into Kirk.

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Was this really necessary after the fact? :lol: :lol:

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The NBA upgraded one of Taj Gibson's fouls on LeBron James to a flagrant, but it wasn't one of the two fouls James complained about after the Chicago Bulls snapped the Miami Heat's win streak March 27 at the United Center.

Gibson caught James across the neck and shoulder on a play in the fourth quarter, and James said after the game that he didn't consider Gibson's foul to be a basketball play. He also complained about Kirk Hinrich taking him to the ground in the first quarter. Neither of those plays was called a flagrant, although Gibson's was reviewed.

It was a Gibson foul with 2:37 left in the first quarter that was upgraded, and the upgrade was met with surprise in the Bulls' locker room Sunday night after their win over the Detroit Pistons. The South Florida Sun Sentinel reported the upgrade Saturday.

"I really can't dwell on it," Gibson said. "It's part of the game. I'll have to just keep moving forward.

"That game is behind us now. Just focus on getting wins. Like I said before, I didn't try and hurt him. I think he's a great player, I just tried to make a good foul without trying to hurt anybody, but sometimes it goes that way. But by all means I'm not a dirty player, nor is Kirk, but we'll have to wait until we see him again."

The Bulls play in Miami on April 14.

Gibson didn't even realize the foul in the first quarter was the one in question until a reporter told him the news.

"I don't even remember what happened," Gibson said. "I just tried to make a play, and I guess it was a foul. But hey, it's going to happen. I don't remember it, but the NBA is doing their job and trying to correct things. I can't be mad at that. I'm going to have to keep pushing and moving on and get ready for the next time we play them, I guess."

Thibodeau wasn't as accepting.

"I guess we have to call the league and get clarification," he said. "I didn't see it that way. I still don't have a good understanding of what a flagrant foul is. By rule, it's unnecessary, excessive. I thought I got some clarity last year, but apparently I didn't."

After James complained about the fouls, Gibson said he thought James was "too good" to complain and Danny Ainge said it was "almost embarrassing" that James would complain. Heat president Pat Riley then stood up for James by criticizing Ainge and telling him to "shut the f--- up."

As for whether James' reputation helped get the call upgraded, Thibodeau wasn't biting.

"I guess we have to talk to the league to find out," he said. "They're judgment plays, so things are tough. That's part of it."

Gibson believes the national spotlight of the game might have made the league take another look.

"I just think it was one of those games that was highly televised," Gibson said. "And whenever a game like that is highly televised and there's a lot of banging and a lot of physical play, [the league is] going to look at it, and sometimes you've got to respect the league.

"Whatever they do, you've got to respect it and keep moving forward. Lucky for us, we got the win; lucky that we didn't lose and then we'll be sitting here wondering about that foul, but it's behind us."

Gibson said he and his teammates played the Heat the same way they always do.

"We didn't do anything different," he said. "We just played them the way we normally played them. Every time we play them, it's like a playoff game -- we don't shy away from anything. Every time we play them, they adjust, we adjust. It's all about who wants it more. It's both teams just really clashing. At the end of the day, I don't have any hard feelings against [James], it's just basketball. It's just basketball, nothing personal. Nothing like, 'I hate him,' it's just basketball."

James was called for a flagrant foul in the fourth quarter for lowering his shoulder into Carlos Boozer. It came moments after Gibson hit him across the shoulder.

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