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Can she play in the NBA? Would you like to see her get a shot?


If you mean play day-in-day-out at a high level, no. If you mean sit on a bench and collect a check, yes.

I would like to see her get a shot though.

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Yes, Im saying they play like a week after the tournament.

I just dont get how it all changes in 6 months when they get drafted

If I said a rookie all star team could beat the worst team in the league nobody would scoff. But same guys six months eariler...RIDICULOUS


And no, those T wolve guys at any age are not checking Larry


It's not a question of time, it's a question of supporting cast. Twenty one year old Tim Duncan flanked by veterans like Sean Elliot on one side and Mario Elie on the other is infinitely better than 21 year old Duncan with...whoever was on his team at Wake Forest.

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Similar things have been said about women when it came to doing other jobs and many ethnic groups. My believe is we won't truly know UNTIL they are given the opportunity to try.

I sort of agree with your point right here, but it's a fact that there are biological and physiological differences between the sexes. To deny that is to sound as foolish as a Republican saying that a woman's vagina can secretly destroy sperm from a rape.


This is what makes you sound like one of those republicans. Just because something may be true for MOST doesn't mean it should apply to all. This has been proven. Sure there are things right now that MOST women can't do better than a man (the opposite is also true) but that does not mean that a woman like Griner can't be the exception.

Huh? What are you talking about? All I said is there are physical and biological differences between the genders, because you denied it when JORR said it. I didn't say anything about there being no exceptions. I think you just look for any chance you can get to call me a Republican. :lol:

Ask JORR where I stand when it comes to women vs. men in physically demanding jobs.


Difference between "sexes."


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So four women have failed the course. How many men have?

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So four women have failed the course. How many men have?


It said in the article that this time around x number of men out of y failed.

The point is no woman has ever passed. The fella in charge also made mention that standards should not be lowered, and for fuck's sake, I should hope not.

Sorry; men and women are physically different in significant ways, and that's by design. That doesn't make them lesser in any way, just different. Why that's controversial is way fucking beyond me, and I'm thankful for it.

If Greiner wants a job that requires physicality, go work on a dock; her looks all but assure nobody is going to want to fish-hook her, no matter how much grog is in them.

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Yes, Im saying they play like a week after the tournament.

I just dont get how it all changes in 6 months when they get drafted

If I said a rookie all star team could beat the worst team in the league nobody would scoff. But same guys six months eariler...RIDICULOUS


And no, those T wolve guys at any age are not checking Larry


You're wrong. After back surgery a young Tony Campbell could. I say that Jordan team could beat them.

No, he couldnt. Almost no one could guard LJ in his prime.


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So four women have failed the course. How many men have?


It said in the article that this time around x number of men out of y failed.

The point is no woman has ever passed. The fella in charge also made mention that standards should not be lowered, and for fuck's sake, I should hope not.

Sorry; men and women are physically different in significant ways, and that's by design. That doesn't make them lesser in any way, just different. Why that's controversial is way fucking beyond me, and I'm thankful for it.

If Greiner wants a job that requires physicality, go work on a dock; her looks all but assure nobody is going to want to fish-hook her, no matter how much grog is in them.


It's misguided "feminism" where, against reality and the brutal facts of nature, a society attempts to make men and women the same. Objectification of women is what makes the world go 'round.

On the one hand, we raised a couple generations of men to emasculate themselves for the furtherment of this modern feminism. And then those men are puzzled when the girl they are politely chasing spurns them for one of the few remaining Alpha male knuckle-draggers like me or good dolphin. :lol:

As the French say, vive la difference! And no, Brittney Griner cannot play NBA basketball.

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Yes, Im saying they play like a week after the tournament.

I just dont get how it all changes in 6 months when they get drafted

If I said a rookie all star team could beat the worst team in the league nobody would scoff. But same guys six months eariler...RIDICULOUS


And no, those T wolve guys at any age are not checking Larry


You're wrong. After back surgery a young Tony Campbell could. I say that Jordan team could beat them.

No, he couldnt. Almost no one could guard LJ in his prime.


Read carefully. LJ wasn't the same player after back surgery. It was a joke either way.

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So four women have failed the course. How many men have?


It said in the article that this time around x number of men out of y failed.

The point is no woman has ever passed. The fella in charge also made mention that standards should not be lowered, and for fuck's sake, I should hope not.

Sorry; men and women are physically different in significant ways, and that's by design. That doesn't make them lesser in any way, just different. Why that's controversial is way fucking beyond me, and I'm thankful for it.

If Greiner wants a job that requires physicality, go work on a dock; her looks all but assure nobody is going to want to fish-hook her, no matter how much grog is in them.


It's misguided "feminism" where, against reality and the brutal facts of nature, a society attempts to make men and women the same. Objectification of women is what makes the world go 'round.

On the one hand, we raised a couple generations of men to emasculate themselves for the furtherment of this modern feminism. And then those men are puzzled when the girl they are politely chasing spurns them for one of the few remaining Alpha male knuckle-draggers like me or good dolphin. :lol:

As the French say, vive la difference! And no, Brittney Griner cannot play NBA basketball.


There is a difference in being confident in your own abilities and dismissing someone else you aren't competing against because of who they are. A lot of people with a lot of wrong ideas held similar strong beliefs.

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Yes, Im saying they play like a week after the tournament.

I just dont get how it all changes in 6 months when they get drafted

If I said a rookie all star team could beat the worst team in the league nobody would scoff. But same guys six months eariler...RIDICULOUS


And no, those T wolve guys at any age are not checking Larry


You're wrong. After back surgery a young Tony Campbell could. I say that Jordan team could beat them.

No, he couldnt. Almost no one could guard LJ in his prime.


Read carefully. LJ wasn't the same player after back surgery. It was a joke either way.

Ah.

I read that as After Tony Campbell's back surgery. Isnt that right the way its written?

id like to see all those guys go at it now


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Read carefully. LJ wasn't the same player after back surgery. It was a joke either way.

Ah.

I read that as After Tony Campbell's back surgery. Isnt that right the way its written?

id like to see all those guys go at it now[/quote]

Possibly. You can see them by yourself. What is your take on that UNC team against UNLV? I think UNC wins by 30. Who stops Jordan? Daugherty and Perkins can just double LJ and force him to give it up. Joe Wolf would kill everyone not name LJ.

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There is a difference in being confident in your own abilities and dismissing someone else you aren't competing against because of who they are. A lot of people with a lot of wrong ideas held similar strong beliefs.



I'm not really looking at her sex and just dismissing her. I'm looking at it the same way I would if a trainer decided to enter a filly in the Kentucky Derby. What is the evidence that she could compete? With a horse, I'd look at whether I thought she could make the front end and control the pace without having to jostle around and attempt to control space vs. big, strong colts. I don't see how the equivalent could be possible for Griner. If I were looking for a female player to succeed in the NBA, I think I'd look more for a spot-up shooter. That's something a girl could do if she were able to swing off picks in a certain type of offense. But it would still be difficult just based on the sheer size of the defenders she would be facing. Do you really think Griner could match up with even the guy you consider the "softest" in the league?

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Read carefully. LJ wasn't the same player after back surgery. It was a joke either way.

Ah.

I read that as After Tony Campbell's back surgery. Isnt that right the way its written?

id like to see all those guys go at it now


Possibly. You can see them by yourself. What is your take on that UNC team against UNLV? I think UNC wins by 30. Who stops Jordan? Daugherty and Perkins can just double LJ and force him to give it up. Joe Wolf would kill everyone not name LJ.[/quote]
Oh, I didnt know you meant NC vs UNLV.

Probably Carolina. Why not the team with Worthy?


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I'm not really looking at her sex and just dismissing her. I'm looking at it the same way I would if a trainer decided to enter a filly in the Kentucky Derby.

Im not looking at her sex, Im looking at her like the animal, she is.


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I'm not really looking at her sex and just dismissing her. I'm looking at it the same way I would if a trainer decided to enter a filly in the Kentucky Derby.

Im not looking at her sex, Im looking at her like the animal, she is.



People really might misconstrue that. :lol:

A racehorse is a noble athlete. I don't think comapring human athletes to equine ones denigrates the humans. In fact, it probably isn't fair to the horses.

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I'm not really looking at her sex and just dismissing her. I'm looking at it the same way I would if a trainer decided to enter a filly in the Kentucky Derby. What is the evidence that she could compete? With a horse, I'd look at whether I thought she could make the front end and control the pace without having to jostle around and attempt to control space vs. big, strong colts. I don't see how the equivalent could be possible for Griner. If I were looking for a female player to succeed in the NBA, I think I'd look more for a spot-up shooter. That's something a girl could do if she were able to swing off picks in a certain type of offense. But it would still be difficult just based on the sheer size of the defenders she would be facing. Do you really think Griner could match up with even the guy you consider the "softest" in the league?


Yes. Do I believe some bums would try harder so she wouldn't "embarrass" them? Of course they will. I'm not saying she could be a star BUT I'm also not going to say she can't contribute and as a supporting player on a team. There are a lot of awful players in the league today. I would love to see someone give hre the opportunity and I believe it will happen. I call it progress.

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Oh, I didnt know you meant NC vs UNLV.

Probably Carolina. Why not the team with Worthy?


I think the addition of Wolf, Daugherty and Smith is greater than Worthy alone. Plus MJ was a better player his last season in college.

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There is a difference in being confident in your own abilities and dismissing someone else you aren't competing against because of who they are. A lot of people with a lot of wrong ideas held similar strong beliefs.



I'm not really looking at her sex and just dismissing her. I'm looking at it the same way I would if a trainer decided to enter a filly in the Kentucky Derby. What is the evidence that she could compete? With a horse, I'd look at whether I thought she could make the front end and control the pace without having to jostle around and attempt to control space vs. big, strong colts. I don't see how the equivalent could be possible for Griner. If I were looking for a female player to succeed in the NBA, I think I'd look more for a spot-up shooter. That's something a girl could do if she were able to swing off picks in a certain type of offense. But it would still be difficult just based on the sheer size of the defenders she would be facing. Do you really think Griner could match up with even the guy you consider the "softest" in the league?


Yes. Do I believe some bums would try harder so she wouldn't "embarrass" them? Of course they will. I'm not saying she could be a star BUT I'm also not going to say she can't contribute and as a supporting player on a team. There are a lot of awful players in the league today. I would love to see someone give hre the opportunity and I believe it will happen. I call it progress.


Rather than progress I just call it wishful thinking. To me it's no different than hoping a man can one day bear a child, because, because, I mean, because why shouldn't one?

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There is a difference in being confident in your own abilities and dismissing someone else you aren't competing against because of who they are. A lot of people with a lot of wrong ideas held similar strong beliefs.



I'm not really looking at her sex and just dismissing her. I'm looking at it the same way I would if a trainer decided to enter a filly in the Kentucky Derby. What is the evidence that she could compete? With a horse, I'd look at whether I thought she could make the front end and control the pace without having to jostle around and attempt to control space vs. big, strong colts. I don't see how the equivalent could be possible for Griner. If I were looking for a female player to succeed in the NBA, I think I'd look more for a spot-up shooter. That's something a girl could do if she were able to swing off picks in a certain type of offense. But it would still be difficult just based on the sheer size of the defenders she would be facing. Do you really think Griner could match up with even the guy you consider the "softest" in the league?


Yes. Do I believe some bums would try harder so she wouldn't "embarrass" them? Of course they will. I'm not saying she could be a star BUT I'm also not going to say she can't contribute and as a supporting player on a team. There are a lot of awful players in the league today. I would love to see someone give hre the opportunity and I believe it will happen. I call it progress.


Rather than progress I just call it wishful thinking. To me it's no different than hoping a man can one day bear a child, because, because, I mean, because why shouldn't one?


A strong woman that decided to be a man made that possible my friend. :wink:

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If she had any chance of competing in the NBA she'd have been playing for the men's team in college.

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I'm not really looking at her sex and just dismissing her. I'm looking at it the same way I would if a trainer decided to enter a filly in the Kentucky Derby.

:lol:
Im not looking at her sex, Im looking at her like the animal, she is.



People really might misconstrue that. :lol:

A racehorse is a noble athlete. I don't think comapring human athletes to equine ones denigrates the humans. In fact, it probably isn't fair to the horses.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

We went to Tijuana, Mexico, you know...and we thought it would be fun, you know, to go to this show.

Everyone's, "You gotta check out one of these shows."
And, you know, it's a woman fucking a horse
We get there, and, you know, we think it's gonna be awesome...
and it is not as cool as it sounds like it would be, man.

It's kind of gross. Yeah.
You think, "A woman fucking a horse"...
and you get there and it's...a woman fucking a horse.

Yeah.


It was really giving it to her. And you know what...
to be honest, I felt bad for her. We all just felt bad for her.

Yeah. Kind of felt bad for the horse.


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White Mamba would crush Griner in a game of 1 on 1.

That said, let her play in the summer league. But if she gets destroyed, the media better not start saying everyone was being mean to her.


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There are just some things a woman cannot not do physically, e.g., play in the NBA. There are also some things a man cannot do physically, e.g. nurse a baby. I'm not sure how it benefits anyone to try to force these things to occur against the basic realities of nature.

This all comes down to a particular brand of feminism that has been perpetrated on the American public since some time in the 60s. You have a beautiful face, a nice ass. Yeah, that's objectification. But it isn't denigration. It's admiration.

I'll admit as a younger man I fell victim to these fraudulent concepts. I attempted to restrain my natural masculinity as I had been taught to do by society. I tried to be a "nice guy". But eventually I came to two realizations. A, I wasn't a nice guy, and B, pretending to be one wasn't getting me laid.

I have a very close female friend. She is a highly educated woman. Obviously, she has grown up in the same society as I have. She has some clear ideas of what she expects from a mate, how he should behave, etc. Her sexuality is such that she is attracted to a rough man who will dominate her in the bedroom. This is no different than being gay. It isn't a "choice". But I think it's difficult to ask a man to be "a man" sexually and then walk back into the rest of his day and be the pussy modern feminism has told him he should be. This is what our society has done to a couple generations of men and women. We have attempted to defy nature.

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There are just some things a woman cannot not do physically, e.g., play in the NBA. There are also some things a man cannot do physically, e.g. nurse a baby. I'm not sure how it benefits anyone to try to force these things to occur against the basic realities of nature.

This all comes down to a particular brand of feminism that has been perpetrated on the American public since some time in the 60s. You have a beautiful face, a nice ass. Yeah, that's objectification. But it isn't denigration. It's admiration.

I'll admit as a younger man I fell victim to these fraudulent concepts. I attempted to restrain my natural masculinity as I had been taught to do by society. I tried to be a "nice guy". But eventually I came to two realizations. A, I wasn't a nice guy, and B, pretending to be one wasn't getting me laid.

You're right, nice guys dont get laid. But I dont think the only option is to recreate Mad Men. If youre confident, you can get laid irrespective of your feelings on gender roles.


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There are just some things a woman cannot not do physically, e.g., play in the NBA. There are also some things a man cannot do physically, e.g. nurse a baby. I'm not sure how it benefits anyone to try to force these things to occur against the basic realities of nature.

This all comes down to a particular brand of feminism that has been perpetrated on the American public since some time in the 60s. You have a beautiful face, a nice ass. Yeah, that's objectification. But it isn't denigration. It's admiration.

I'll admit as a younger man I fell victim to these fraudulent concepts. I attempted to restrain my natural masculinity as I had been taught to do by society. I tried to be a "nice guy". But eventually I came to two realizations. A, I wasn't a nice guy, and B, pretending to be one wasn't getting me laid.

You're right, nice guys dont get laid. But I dont think the only option is to recreate Mad Men. If youre confident, you can get laid irrespective of your feelings on gender roles.


My point is that woman may have been conditioned to think they should act "like a man", but when it comes down to it, they don't really want to. Women- and I'm speaking generally here- want the man to take the lead. When you're dating that cute chick, she doesn't want you to ask her, "Where do you want to go for dinner?" She wants you to make a plan and take her there. At least that's been my experience.

Anyway, I don't think it's derogatory or "anti-woman" to say Brittney Griner can't play in the NBA anymore than I think it's derogatory or demeaning to say RPB can't work the stage at Skybox.

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There are just some things a woman cannot not do physically, e.g., play in the NBA. There are also some things a man cannot do physically, e.g. nurse a baby. I'm not sure how it benefits anyone to try to force these things to occur against the basic realities of nature.

This all comes down to a particular brand of feminism that has been perpetrated on the American public since some time in the 60s. You have a beautiful face, a nice ass. Yeah, that's objectification. But it isn't denigration. It's admiration.

I'll admit as a younger man I fell victim to these fraudulent concepts. I attempted to restrain my natural masculinity as I had been taught to do by society. I tried to be a "nice guy". But eventually I came to two realizations. A, I wasn't a nice guy, and B, pretending to be one wasn't getting me laid.

You're right, nice guys dont get laid. But I dont think the only option is to recreate Mad Men. If youre confident, you can get laid irrespective of your feelings on gender roles.


My point is that woman may have been conditioned to think they should act "like a man", but when it comes down to it, they don't really want to. Women- and I'm speaking generally here- want the man to take the lead. When you're dating that cute chick, she doesn't want you to ask her, "Where do you want to go for dinner?" She wants you to make a plan and take her there. At least that's been my experience.

Anyway, I don't think it's derogatory or "anti-woman" to say Brittney Griner can't play in the NBA anymore than I think it's derogatory or demeaning to say RPB can't work the stage at Skybox.

No matter how much we might desire them to do so, social mores cannot trump biology and nature.

First of all I agree with most of that

Secondly, dont think for a second I dont cry myself to sleep every night knowing I will never take the Main stage at the Skybox


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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There are just some things a woman cannot not do physically, e.g., play in the NBA. There are also some things a man cannot do physically, e.g. nurse a baby. I'm not sure how it benefits anyone to try to force these things to occur against the basic realities of nature.

This all comes down to a particular brand of feminism that has been perpetrated on the American public since some time in the 60s. You have a beautiful face, a nice ass. Yeah, that's objectification. But it isn't denigration. It's admiration.

I'll admit as a younger man I fell victim to these fraudulent concepts. I attempted to restrain my natural masculinity as I had been taught to do by society. I tried to be a "nice guy". But eventually I came to two realizations. A, I wasn't a nice guy, and B, pretending to be one wasn't getting me laid.

You're right, nice guys dont get laid. But I dont think the only option is to recreate Mad Men. If youre confident, you can get laid irrespective of your feelings on gender roles.


My point is that woman may have been conditioned to think they should act "like a man", but when it comes down to it, they don't really want to. Women- and I'm speaking generally here- want the man to take the lead. When you're dating that cute chick, she doesn't want you to ask her, "Where do you want to go for dinner?" She wants you to make a plan and take her there. At least that's been my experience.

Anyway, I don't think it's derogatory or "anti-woman" to say Brittney Griner can't play in the NBA anymore than I think it's derogatory or demeaning to say RPB can't work the stage at Skybox.

No matter how much we might desire them to do so, social mores cannot trump biology and nature.


It's a very sad world you live in. At least you can tell yourself that you are a manly man. That has to give you some confidence.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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There are just some things a woman cannot not do physically, e.g., play in the NBA. There are also some things a man cannot do physically, e.g. nurse a baby. I'm not sure how it benefits anyone to try to force these things to occur against the basic realities of nature.

This all comes down to a particular brand of feminism that has been perpetrated on the American public since some time in the 60s. You have a beautiful face, a nice ass. Yeah, that's objectification. But it isn't denigration. It's admiration.

I'll admit as a younger man I fell victim to these fraudulent concepts. I attempted to restrain my natural masculinity as I had been taught to do by society. I tried to be a "nice guy". But eventually I came to two realizations. A, I wasn't a nice guy, and B, pretending to be one wasn't getting me laid.

You're right, nice guys dont get laid. But I dont think the only option is to recreate Mad Men. If youre confident, you can get laid irrespective of your feelings on gender roles.


Yes we do. I've never had a problem getting "laid" and I've never met a girl or woman that didn't consider me a nice guy.

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Nas wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
There are just some things a woman cannot not do physically, e.g., play in the NBA. There are also some things a man cannot do physically, e.g. nurse a baby. I'm not sure how it benefits anyone to try to force these things to occur against the basic realities of nature.

This all comes down to a particular brand of feminism that has been perpetrated on the American public since some time in the 60s. You have a beautiful face, a nice ass. Yeah, that's objectification. But it isn't denigration. It's admiration.

I'll admit as a younger man I fell victim to these fraudulent concepts. I attempted to restrain my natural masculinity as I had been taught to do by society. I tried to be a "nice guy". But eventually I came to two realizations. A, I wasn't a nice guy, and B, pretending to be one wasn't getting me laid.

You're right, nice guys dont get laid. But I dont think the only option is to recreate Mad Men. If youre confident, you can get laid irrespective of your feelings on gender roles.


Yes we do. I've never had a problem getting "laid" and I've never met a girl or woman that didn't consider me a nice guy.

I wouldnt call you a nice guy.

Im talking a different kind of nice guy.


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