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My girl, my son, and I were on a road trip early Saturday. We passed through Bowling Green, KY and stopped at a Speedway. Progress to me would be in not receiving the stares we got. That's all I'm saying.

See, this is where you and I differ.

Id just assume they were in awe of my good looks


Those looks feel very different...

To be honest, Id probably engage people and get in trouble.

Im not trying to be crass here, but the way police look at minorities alone is crazy to me.

I feel like they are after me already. Cant even imagine giving them what they see as another reason


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It's the parents and to a lesser degree the kids fault for allowing this to continue. The school or county isn't sponsoring this. They could have stopped this many years ago.

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Meh. It's gonna always be this way.
Just reading YouTube comments reminds me of that fact. You guys should have seen the comments under the Michigan Avenue flash mob news story a couple of weeks ago. There were a lot of "Those monkeys need to be eradicated" comments. Hard to believe there aren't several more with that opinion. Those thoughts just aren't out in the open anymore.


I couldn't disagree more. Progress is being made everyday. Our kids won't have to experience many of the same issues we've had and our grandchildren will have it even better. Why are you always so pessimistic? Please don't tell me you're being a realist because that's b.s.

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To be honest, Id probably engage people and get in trouble.

Im not trying to be crass here, but the way police look at minorities alone is crazy to me.

I feel like they are after me already. Cant even imagine giving them what they see as another reason


I get the "I'm not sure what you are, i just know you're not all white" look when I'm walking home from some of the cops in the next village over. They are some of the most racialy profiling sons of guns you'll ever meet...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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To be honest, Id probably engage people and get in trouble.

Im not trying to be crass here, but the way police look at minorities alone is crazy to me.

I feel like they are after me already. Cant even imagine giving them what they see as another reason


I get the "I'm not sure what you are, i just know you're not all white" look when I'm walking home from some of the cops in the next village over. They are some of the most racialy profiling sons of guns you'll ever meet...

Every time I see someone pulled over I can predict in my head what color they are.

If they're white, they are still in the car

If they are black/mexican they are out of the car being searched.

Im right about 98% of the time.

I always think to myself, "Id be in jail or dead"


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I've never argued with a cop before during a traffic stop. It would take a lot for me to break that rule...

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Not that this makes it better, but YouTube commenters dont represent the general populace.

Honestly, a lot of the comments I saw reminded me of some of the stuff Chas says about Muslims. Made me very uncomfortable to read. And it also dawned on me that if Chas had any kind of power in this country, he'd be a dangerous motherfucker for all the wrong reasons.

I'm also saying that Chas unfortunately isn't the only Chas.


I'd be willing to bet you Budweiser's to Heineken's that most of those comments you read are just from people looking to get a response. Some of them may even be black. The country as a whole is entirely different.

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Nas wrote:
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Meh. It's gonna always be this way.
Just reading YouTube comments reminds me of that fact. You guys should have seen the comments under the Michigan Avenue flash mob news story a couple of weeks ago. There were a lot of "Those monkeys need to be eradicated" comments. Hard to believe there aren't several more with that opinion. Those thoughts just aren't out in the open anymore.


I couldn't disagree more. Progress is being made everyday. Our kids won't have to experience many of the same issues we've had and our grandchildren will have it even better. Why are you always so pessimistic? Please don't tell me you're being a realist because that's b.s.

It just takes me a little longer to recover from bad experiences.

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Look, all I'm saying is that while things have changed in the last three decades, they still haven't changed much in the grand scheme.

Many people would passionately disagree with that. That's fine, but its not a fact. Just your take.
And many people did in November 2008 and again in November 2012. Thats just one example.


I get your point but it's not entirely true. Obama got a little more than 1/3 or the white vote in 2012. The change in demographics made the difference.

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I've never argued with a cop before during a traffic stop. It would take a lot for me to break that rule...

Me neither.

They get off on authority. I dont give them anything but Yes, sir and No, sir until i know the ticket or whatever is set and wont be changed. At that point, Im a little more honest but still respectful (faux resepct)


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Nas wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Meh. It's gonna always be this way.
Just reading YouTube comments reminds me of that fact. You guys should have seen the comments under the Michigan Avenue flash mob news story a couple of weeks ago. There were a lot of "Those monkeys need to be eradicated" comments. Hard to believe there aren't several more with that opinion. Those thoughts just aren't out in the open anymore.


I couldn't disagree more. Progress is being made everyday. Our kids won't have to experience many of the same issues we've had and our grandchildren will have it even better. Why are you always so pessimistic? Please don't tell me you're being a realist because that's b.s.
The thing to keep in mind is that a lot of people are still alive that were born in and lived through segregation and the slow process of ending the practice. This had the side effect of teaching racist thoughts that are difficult to overcome. The people my age were lucky enough to never deal with any of that stuff and it's much easier to overcome the social issues that led to racism in the 80s and 90s. Now, I know I'm probably racist about some stuff, and my kids will be even better than me.

That's why it's so dumb that we still have politicians who think that segregation should be legal. The end of segregation is likely the greatest piece of equality legislation since the end of slavery.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I've never argued with a cop before during a traffic stop. It would take a lot for me to break that rule...

Me neither.

They get off on authority. I dont give them anything but Yes, sir and No, sir until i know the ticket or whatever is set and wont be changed. At that point, Im a little more honest but still respectful (faux resepct)


Yep. And I've had some pretty disrespectful shit said to me before. I never break character.

If they find me dead, my hands will be gripping the wheel with a smile on my face...

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My girl, my son, and I were on a road trip early Saturday. We passed through Bowling Green, KY and stopped at a Speedway. Progress to me would be in not receiving the stares we got. That's all I'm saying.


I've found smiling and speaking usually breaks through all of that.

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I get your point but it's not entirely true. Obama got a little more than 1/3 or the white vote in 2012. The change in demographics made the difference.
In 2012, Obama got the same percentage of the white vote as Bill Clinton.

White people just love being Republicans.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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I've never argued with a cop before during a traffic stop. It would take a lot for me to break that rule...

Me neither.

They get off on authority. I dont give them anything but Yes, sir and No, sir until i know the ticket or whatever is set and wont be changed. At that point, Im a little more honest but still respectful (faux resepct)


Yep. And I've had some pretty disrespectful shit said to me before. I never break character.

If they find me dead, my hands will be gripping the wheel with a smile on my face...

What if its a black cop? Same deal?


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Augusta National has one female black member. Racism is dead.
You realize nobody here said anything even remotely close to this, right?

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Krazy Ivan wrote:
I've never argued with a cop before during a traffic stop. It would take a lot for me to break that rule...

Me neither.

They get off on authority. I dont give them anything but Yes, sir and No, sir until i know the ticket or whatever is set and wont be changed. At that point, Im a little more honest but still respectful (faux resepct)

It always pays to be honest. I ran a red light back in January 2010 trying to get to the pA DoubleDoor show as I was running late. I didn't see the cop and I got pulled over. The cop asked me what color the light was. I looked at him and said, "It was red. I'm sorry." He said, "You're an honest guy. That's a warning...but obey your traffic lights!"

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What if its a black cop? Same deal?



Oh, it has very little to do with race. It has everything to do with the guns they carry.

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Meh. It's gonna always be this way.
Just reading YouTube comments reminds me of that fact. You guys should have seen the comments under the Michigan Avenue flash mob news story a couple of weeks ago. There were a lot of "Those monkeys need to be eradicated" comments. Hard to believe there aren't several more with that opinion. Those thoughts just aren't out in the open anymore.


I couldn't disagree more. Progress is being made everyday. Our kids won't have to experience many of the same issues we've had and our grandchildren will have it even better. Why are you always so pessimistic? Please don't tell me you're being a realist because that's b.s.
The thing to keep in mind is that a lot of people are still alive that were born in and lived through segregation and the slow process of ending the practice. This had the side effect of teaching racist thoughts that are difficult to overcome. The people my age were lucky enough to never deal with any of that stuff and it's much easier to overcome the social issues that led to racism in the 80s and 90s. Now, I know I'm probably racist about some stuff, and my kids will be even better than me.

That's why it's so dumb that we still have politicians who think that segregation should be legal. The end of segregation is likely the greatest piece of equality legislation since the end of slavery.


I couldn't agree more. We could all argue that things are changing quickly enough but there is no denying that a lot of progress has been made over the years and it hasn't stopped.

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I get your point but it's not entirely true. Obama got a little more than 1/3 or the white vote in 2012. The change in demographics made the difference.
In 2012, Obama got the same percentage of the white vote as Bill Clinton.

White people just love being Republicans.


True. And everything perceived to go along with that.

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I get your point but it's not entirely true. Obama got a little more than 1/3 or the white vote in 2012. The change in demographics made the difference.
In 2012, Obama got the same percentage of the white vote as Bill Clinton.

White people just love being Republicans.


In 1992 IIRC. In general white men tend to vote republican. Race played a very small role in the overall numbers.

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So anyway. The better dancers will be at the black prom, right?

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So anyway. The better dancers will be at the black prom, right?


And the light beer will be at the other one?!? :lol:

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pathetic.

Sad this stuff still exists.

Conversation I overheard yesterday:

Lady 1: "my grandson went to prom with one of the _______ Girls." (family has 3 daughters-- 2 black girls and 1 white girl)
Lady 2: (with horrific look on her face) "are you ok with that?"
Lady 1: "Oh no honey, he went with the ok one"
Lady 2: Oh good.


Meh. It's gonna always be this way. Just reading YouTube comments reminds me of that fact. You guys should have seen the comments under the Michigan Avenue flash mob news story a couple of weeks ago. There were a lot of "Those monkeys need to be eradicated" comments. Hard to believe there aren't several more with that opinion. Those thoughts just aren't out in the open anymore.


I respectfully disagree. (i'm going to copyright that opening.) I grew up with a racist grandfather in the 70's/80's. My mother wasn't racist, but her view of minorities was at best murky. I lived in mostly white suburban towns and wasn't exposed to any minorities until Jr.High, except for when I visited my family in Chicago. In Chicago gangs ruled the streets and black vs white was all that I saw. However I didn't let my grandfather's racism and my bad experiences in Chicago shape my views of minorities.

Jr.High and highschool I realized how narrow minded my grandfather was and how fear of the other race, led to hatred. Long story short, I chose to not let someone's color effect my decisions and change the way I view them. I broke the racist cycle that my grandfather had continued from his generation. Married a minority and have a beautiful little girl. I have been with my wife for almost ten years and in that ten years I can only remember two times I have experienced any racism. One in a pizza joint in Dekalb, il and the other a supermarket in Alabama. One, by a group of young black men and the other by older white ladies. Offcourse there have been looks by people sometimes and I am sure lots of people have just not said anything, but nothing that I couldn't just brush off as ignorance, like the same ignorance my grandfather possesed. He is dead and his racism died with him. "that's one small leap for man, one giant leap for mankind."


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May I ask her ethnicity?


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pathetic.

Sad this stuff still exists.

Conversation I overheard yesterday:

Lady 1: "my grandson went to prom with one of the _______ Girls." (family has 3 daughters-- 2 black girls and 1 white girl)
Lady 2: (with horrific look on her face) "are you ok with that?"
Lady 1: "Oh no honey, he went with the ok one"
Lady 2: Oh good.


Meh. It's gonna always be this way. Just reading YouTube comments reminds me of that fact. You guys should have seen the comments under the Michigan Avenue flash mob news story a couple of weeks ago. There were a lot of "Those monkeys need to be eradicated" comments. Hard to believe there aren't several more with that opinion. Those thoughts just aren't out in the open anymore.


I respectfully disagree. (i'm going to copyright that opening.) I grew up with a racist grandfather in the 70's/80's. My mother wasn't racist, but her view of minorities was at best murky. I lived in mostly white suburban towns and wasn't exposed to any minorities until Jr.High, except for when I visited my family in Chicago. In Chicago gangs ruled the streets and black vs white was all that I saw. However I didn't let my grandfather's racism and my bad experiences in Chicago shape my views of minorities.

Jr.High and highschool I realized how narrow minded my grandfather was and how fear of the other race, led to hatred. Long story short, I chose to not let someone's color effect my decisions and change the way I view them. I broke the racist cycle that my grandfather had continued from his generation. Married a minority and have a beautiful little girl. I have been with my wife for almost ten years and in that ten years I can only remember two times I have experienced any racism. One in a pizza joint in Dekalb, il and the other a supermarket in Alabama. One, by a group of young black men and the other by older white ladies. Offcourse there have been looks by people sometimes and I am sure lots of people have just not said anything, but nothing that I couldn't just brush off as ignorance, like the same ignorance my grandfather possesed. He is dead and his racism died with him. "that's one small leap for man, one giant leap for mankind."


Kudos! This same story is happening everyday. Progress is a great thing.

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May I ask her ethnicity?


Please don't say Samoan


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May I ask her ethnicity?


Please don't say Samoan
She's a woman who thinks Melissa McCarthy isn't funny.

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