wow...um....
hmm.

i thought it was neat.

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found this on another board i post on:

after searching around, here's what was found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.
However, on Colin Cowherd, HBO said there was no credits of Phil's nephew.

So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the brothas at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?).

Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he.

oh, and Meadow is running to the restaurant to tell her parents she's pregnant...."birth control"

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Midge,
That's more like it.

In my interpretation, Melfi is the representation of the audience.
When she determines that Tony is just using her as a means of coping, and there really is no chance to "cure" him morally, she ends the relationship.
So yes, I am saying there is closure to this chapter of his life.
Tony is determined to be beyond redemption.

The rest of his life, we don't know about, cause Chase is not interested in telling that story beyond this point.

As for the character progression portion of the post, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Perhaps your background allowed you to view the show with a more critical perspective.

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The actor who played the guy in the restaurant had never been in the Sopranos until that scene.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/ ... 60360.html

yeah...not my thoughts. just adding what I've read.

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For the record it is not a good thing they made Godfather 3, that movie sucked balls, George Hamilton replacing Robert Duvall, you might as well have had Pauly Shore play the part.

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Guys, I am going to let you in on a family secret. Please do not start IM'ing me or PM'ing me or whatever on this topic, I won't answer them. I am a nephew of David Chase.


Now, for the last 4 years he would not discuss a word of any plot lines or any scripts with us. In the early days he would go over some of the dialogue with some of us, my dad (his brother in law) ask us is it was realistic or if it sounded like some crap that some writer wrote that a real mobster would never say. In fact I remember clearly some dialogue that my Uncle Heifer (real name is Carl but they call him heifer cause he is a total fat ass) said sounded like a B-Movie gangster shitfest that made it into some scenes of "Cleaver".

Anyway, we had a family reunion a few weeks ago and David came. As usual he didn't really want to talk about work, but he said he would explain the ending when the time came. So now he's at his place in France, and Heifer and my Dad called him up to tell him congrats, and he offers his first in 4 years comments on why he ended the story like he did.

In his own words, the end was meant to

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i know what he meant by it.

that's exactly the reason i resent him for the episode. he's a better writer than that. there were other more imaginative ways of doing a finale.

but i've had problems with the show for years now, so i'm stepping off now. i personally thought the show should have been 4 seasons, and it went on too long just like "The X-Files" did.

I absolutely believe he'll stand up for himself and believe what he did was the right thing. I just don't think it was. Who'm I?

From a Courier Times article about the Members Only Jacket wearer

If Colandrea was supposed to shoot Tony Soprano, he’s not going to dish about it now.

When asked about the show’s ending, Colandrea said he believes some of the footage might be used in a feature film based on “The Sopranos.”

“I don’t want to say anything about what happened next because they may use it someday in a film,” he said.

If he doesn't want to say what happened next, then something happened next. No other way to interpret that statement.

Metaphors in that scene. I didn't come up with all of these but they are obvious posibilities. I thought of one about Meadow and her parking the car however.

Onion rings - Coming full circle. They always end each season with Tony's family at a table. Or never ending. Meaning they continue. Plus they all ate them like you would do at communion in church. Somebody thought of that but I'm not buying that one.

Any Way you want it - That was the song on the B side of Tony's selection of Don't stop beleiving. Can't be a coincidence obviously.

Meadow's struggle to park the car - This is mine. I thought it symbolized Meadow's struggle to accept her families life style. She couldn't or didn't want to fit into that role. But she finally accepts it and fits in. Hence she finally fits the car in. She runs in to join Tony and that life style.

The last thing before Chase killed us was Meadow walking in. So we know that she got in safe and the family was together. That's when we were eliminated from Tony's life.

Seems to simple, but apparently anyone who equated this ending with the first episode of the season when Tony and Bobby discuss what its like to get hit was closer to right than anyone. Nice inference on the Members Only jacket link to the whole thing.

Link

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Those people who are saying the guy went to the bathroom to retreive the gun behind the toilet are dumb. That was just Chase fucking with everybody.

Why would that guy need to hide the gun? He could have walked in with it. In God Father Michael had to hide it because it was an arranged meeting and he would be searched.

They interviewed Gandalfini and he said he had no idea what it meant but he liked it. He said to ask David and it's whatever people want.

Here is an INCREEEEDIBLY LOOOOOONG breakdown of the final Sopranos episode by TV writer Bob Harris.

But, if you are interested (and have half an hour), it breaks down everything. Interesting...

http://www.bobharris.com/content/view/1406/1/

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Just my 2 cents i was reading one of the many links and it was something that Steve van zandt said. Something lhe said after hearing all the controversy about the ending he said something like I know people don't like how the last episode ended but they have to realise life goes on we killed our enemy Phil and that was it or something like that. There s a bunch of theories in the sopranos thread over at the tuckermax.com forum

Are you currently drunk, or were your hands encased in cement when you attempted to type this?

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Actually in the process of drinking some beers I work third shift.

I heard about this the other day on Steve Czaban. It's an interesting read, maybe a bit too detailed to be true but quite interesting....

http://www.bobharris.com/content/view/1406/1/

I took a look at those links from bobharris.com, and it seems obvious (if you have the time!) that the final scene was meant to be Tony's last. All the references (even if half of them aren't true) are just too much to deny.

So Chase wanted Tony to go out in the final scene, after all? Why not the sound of a gunshot, then go blank? Probably not as much speculation.

Just in case you are still unsure if Tony got offed, it doesn't appear to be the case.



Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on



http://www.pr-inside.com/journey-rocker ... 151767.htm

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I prefer the Bob Harris explanation.

I think he has a better understanding of the episode and its ending than Chase.

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Jamie Lynn Sigler looked extremely heavy on the ESPY's. She also didn't look to pleased. My guess is that she committed to it before she put on all the extra weight.

extremely heavy? Sigler isn't anywhere near jennifer love hewitt transformation.

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I'd still give her the pipe.

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Wow. HUGE.

WOW!!!
6 posts and no snide comments on the fact that "Don't Stop Believin" is reffered to as a Rock Anthem.

I don't think I've EVER been more dissapointed by the bright minds of this board, not even when I found out that NSJ was using performance enhancers during his marathon night of posting.

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That's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE Bitch!

Please don't suspend me.

Sorry Rob. I thought it said "rock anathema".

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