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jimmypasta
 Post subject: Accidental Racist
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New hillbilly song trying to justify wearing the Confederate Flag as a T-Shirt. (Bad move)

Stirring up a lot of controversy. I was wondering why LL Cool J has to get involved with that song (sung by Brad Paisley). The guy is a huge TV star right now and doesn't need the bad pub.

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 Post subject: Re: Accidental Racist
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L.L. gets off on expanding his horizons.

I dont like how he tries to speak for Hip hop and black people in general here.


Terrible song. Purposefully racist.

Fuck the Confederate flag.
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Fuck the Confederate flag.

I see so many of those on bumper stickers where I live.

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If you can't see how that flag is insulting to a whole race of people than you just can't see.

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http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-most-racist-moments-from-song-about-ending-racism/
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jimmypasta wrote:
If you can't see how that flag is insulting to a whole race of people than you just can't see.

And I dont think L.L. gets to say its ok or understandable either
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rogers park bryan wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
If you can't see how that flag is insulting to a whole race of people than you just can't see.

And I dont think L.L. gets to say its ok or understandable either

Trust me. L.L. will be rightfully clowned in the community for this one.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
If you can't see how that flag is insulting to a whole race of people than you just can't see.

And I dont think L.L. gets to say its ok or understandable either

Trust me. L.L. will be rightfully clowned in the community for this one.

Would have been nice if he stayed a rapper.

Instead of becoming a pop star/actor.


He is to hip hop what Rock is to WWE
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Im sure I've mentioned this before, but when I was in Louisiana I ran into two different middle aged black dudes with confederate flag decals on their pickup trucks. Louisiana is a really strange place.

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Im sure I've mentioned this before, but when I was in Louisiana I ran into two different middle aged black dudes with confederate flag decals on their pickup trucks. Louisiana is a really strange place.


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There is no way that song can be worse than Hank Jr's "If the south would have won"

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There is no way that song can be worse than Hank Jr's "If the south would have won"


I'll have to look that one up. This Hank Jr. gets in the news a lot. I forgot why he lost the MNF gig.

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Not that I am condoning the confederate flag, but I think many people who use the symbol now see it as a symbol of anti-washington/anti-big city than they do as a symbol of slavery and hating blacks.

That's not to say that they still don't hate black people.
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not that I am condoning the confederate flag, but I think many people who use the symbol now see it as a symbol of anti-washington/anti-big city than they do as a symbol of slavery and hating blacks.

That's not to say that they still don't hate black people.

Agreed. Or just pro SOUTH. Which is fine.


But to them I would say, find another symbol that doesnt have ties to owning human beings.
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not that I am condoning the confederate flag, but...



I'm not saying Hitler was a good guy, but...

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But to them I would say, find another symbol that doesnt have ties to owning human beings.


And it's not just the owning thing. It's the murder, rape, torture thing too. It's a horrible symbol...

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jimmypasta wrote:
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There is no way that song can be worse than Hank Jr's "If the south would have won"


I'll have to look that one up. This Hank Jr. gets in the news a lot. I forgot why he lost the MNF gig.

I think it was him comparing the president to Hitler.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
But to them I would say, find another symbol that doesnt have ties to owning human beings.


And it's not just the owning thing. It's the murder, rape, torture thing too. It's a horrible symbol...

I wonder why Germans dont fly the Nazi flag and say its just PRO Germany
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How do Japanese Americans feel about the American Flag?

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it seems to have taken on a new life with the younger generation as some kind of pro-redneck symbol. I don't think they are using it to symbolize their hatred of other people but more of a self depreciating yet redneck pride thing.

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not that I am condoning the confederate flag, but I think many people who use the symbol now see it as a symbol of anti-washington/anti-big city than they do as a symbol of slavery and hating blacks.

That's not to say that they still don't hate black people.

This is correct, although I agree with KI that it still doesn't justify it.

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Thats um........thats.......not what you call......."good"......

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These fake cowboys should just stick to "Popping Sally's bra in my 1984 Olds on a wet summer night" type shit.

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jimmypasta wrote:
If you can't see how that flag is insulting to a whole race of people than you just can't see.


I can see it both ways. At this point it really shouldn't matter.

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If you can't see how that flag is insulting to a whole race of people than you just can't see.


I can see it both ways. At this point it really shouldn't matter.

I dunno Nas. I mean, Jews aren't oppressed in 2013 but I'm sure a swastika will always be offensive.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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If you can't see how that flag is insulting to a whole race of people than you just can't see.


I can see it both ways. At this point it really shouldn't matter.

I dunno Nas. I mean, Jews aren't oppressed in 2013 but I'm sure a swastika will always be offensive.


True but that flag meant more than that to some people. We aren't talking about destroying old American flags because of our history of tolerating the worst kinds of racism.

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Confederate flag = swastika. There should be no debate. It's a symbol of the ideals of the thing it represents. You can't rebrand it. Find a new redneck symbol.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Confederate flag = swastika. There should be no debate. It's a symbol of the ideals of the thing it represents. You can't rebrand it. Find a new redneck symbol.


The NASCAR emblem,maybe?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Confederate flag = swastika. There should be no debate. It's a symbol of the ideals of the thing it represents. You can't rebrand it. Find a new redneck symbol.


yep.

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Nas wrote:
True but that flag meant more than that to some people.


Doesn't matter. The Confederacy fought to keep slaves under that flag.

The American flag argument is something always brought up in these cases. That is a flag that truely has multiple meanings to people.

The Rebel flag should only be taken one way. It's a means of division...

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