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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:58 pm 
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These two are really putting a beating on their bully pulpit today. Every caller that disagrees is a dope, moron, etc. These are calls that their producer deems airworthy, but they all turn out to be dumbasses. Classic example of trolling, which sadly is 90% of this show. The other 10% are bad bits where their taint licking buddies get all the airtime. I wish I could tolerate Silvy, but alas I can't.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:59 pm 
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Dodgers' manager Don Mattingly believes that the Padres' Carlos Quentin should be suspended as long as Zach Greinke is out with a broken collarbone. Quite frankly, I think Mattingly's point is valid, but it's also wishful thinking.

Unless Don Mattingly is a resident of Mesopotamia circa the 18th century B.C., it's not valid at all.

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In my opinion, whatever suspension MLB gives Quentin for charging the mound isn't good enough, especially considering Greinke's now out for quite sometime. What pisses me off isn't just the length of the likely suspension Quentin is facing, but that he'll be allowed to continue playing while the stupid appeal is heard. Unlike other sports, when a player is suspended in MLB, he appeals via the MLB Players Association. Once a player is suspended, forget the damn appeal! Man up and take the suspension without pay!

If they don't have to, why should they? Their union collectively bargained the right to have an appeal and to hold the suspension in abeyance prior to the appeal.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:08 pm 
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Curious Hair wrote:
SHARK wrote:
Dodgers' manager Don Mattingly believes that the Padres' Carlos Quentin should be suspended as long as Zach Greinke is out with a broken collarbone. Quite frankly, I think Mattingly's point is valid, but it's also wishful thinking.

Unless Don Mattingly is a resident of Mesopotamia circa the 18th century B.C., it's not valid at all.

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In my opinion, whatever suspension MLB gives Quentin for charging the mound isn't good enough, especially considering Greinke's now out for quite sometime. What pisses me off isn't just the length of the likely suspension Quentin is facing, but that he'll be allowed to continue playing while the stupid appeal is heard. Unlike other sports, when a player is suspended in MLB, he appeals via the MLB Players Association. Once a player is suspended, forget the damn appeal! Man up and take the suspension without pay!

If they don't have to, why should they? Their union collectively bargained the right to have an appeal and to hold the suspension in abeyance prior to the appeal.

What I'm saying is once Carlos Quentin is suspended for this fight in the Dodgers/Padres' game, he should forget about appealing and serve his punishment. I'm reasonably sure that Zach Greinke is also likely facing a suspension, too. The difference in the 2 is that Greinke would likely miss at least 1, maybe 2 starts, depending on the severity of this broken collarbone.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:21 pm 
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Ethically speaking, he should take his punishment, but it would undermine the bargaining power of the union if players started waiving their right to an appeal. Why leave money on the table in the form of a suspension without pay if you can get that suspension shortened? It's always a gambit worth taking for the player and the team, or at least worth having available. Is it weird that baseball players get to do this? Yeah. But they earned that right, and baseball owners are assholes who will take everything they can from you if you let them, so it's best they're held in check by the suspension abeyance rule. It's one of those rules that sucks until it's your guy.

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There's gotta be one penalty for charging the mound. Not just when the pitcher gets hurt.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:56 pm 
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One reason for not charging the mound


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:04 pm 
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In my 25 or so years of watching baseball I havent seen many instances where that happens. Ive been far more entertained by the brawls and near brawls than any lost entertainment in players getting hurt.

I dont care what they make as a fan.

But part of this is just I like baseball the way it is etc.



My statement wasn't just about baseball. There have been pretty nasty injuries in football and basketball from things that have taken place outside of the rules. In baseball, the umps and coaches are usualy in the middle of the action doing their best to keep the players from hurting each other. There is a reason they do that.

Baseball fights can be "cool" sometimes. But if I were the commish, you could bet your ass I would do everything in my power to make sure that my star players weren't hurt in a Soc vs Greaser style rumble...

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