The whole scorecard thing is dumb. At this level, the official scorekeepers should keep score and the golfers should golf.

Exactly. The second after the ball lands, they have replays ready from many angles. It should be pretty easy to get it right.

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Thats exactly why they changed the rule so that now it is NOT an automatic DQ. Its to protect the player in an instance like this.

I have no problem with the scorecard/DQ rule the way it is written now.

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I dont see any reason for the golfers to be keeping official score.

Tradition is fine, but that's not a good tradition.

The shot that hit the pin, and then rolled off the green, was only his third. He had the distance controlled perfectly, and most likely would have only needed one putt, just like after the drop.

If he was able to putt better, he could have won this even after the penalty. Scott putted well on Sunday, which is why he has the jacket.

Cabrera should have just laid up on 13, and played the par 5 for a birdie. He would be wearing the jacket right now if he did. No reason to go for a par 5 in two, when you are leading.

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RPB, Thats why the rule was changed. They realized that somebody watching from bumfuck Virginia could call in and say that a ball moved or a leaf moved and it should be a penalty. Now, yes that would still be a penalty, but now it is not an automatic DQ if you had already turned in your scorecard. Do you want MLB to do away with umpires completely and let computers call everything?

Chus, his ball went into the water. It happens. It was a bad break, but golfers get breaks- both good and bad- all the time. Just a couple holes before that Tiger put a tee shot into the trees, but got a lucky break and ended up in the fairway. Penalty for a bad drop or not, the best he probably would have done on that hole was a 5 or a 6, which still would have put him sort of the playoff.

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I guess some people think the marriage thing affects his legacy. He brought up legacies.



Let's have that discussion. I think its ridiculous!



He shot whatever he shot
He signed his name to that score.

If the scorekeeper or official or whatever didnt penalize him, then he signed the right card


I just dont get the benefit of having players responsible for scorekeeping

That's a bad analogy.

I want the umpires making the calls instead of the second baseman.

Don't know what happened here, but I didn't think Scott made anything until the last hole and the 2nd playoff, but then again I was drinking so maybe I missed it.

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The official world golf rankings, as of today:


1. Woods 12.17

2. McIlroy 10.88

3. Scott 7.92

4. Rose 6.91

5. Snedeker 6.48

6. Donald 6.46

7. Oosthuizen 5.88

8. Stricker 5.64

9. Kuchar 5.48

10. Mickelson 5.23


Tiger extends his lead over the golden boy, who wasn't a factor even for a minute this weekend. All the talk of equipment change was ridiculous. There is very little difference from manufacturer to manufacturer, especially the high end stuff they use. The problem is in his head, and I don't think he can handle the spotlight.

Not a very good weekend for Phil, either. It appears that Donald and Westwood will never win a major, and I believe that Bubba will be a one time major champion.

Only 8 weeks until Merion.

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Clearly I understand that, as I posted that exact thing a few pages back. This is why I found it comical that you were thumping your chest about Tiger's failure, and my "silence" yesterday, despite making several posts.

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The Tiger lovers would have been a lot more active in this thread if he were in contention yesterday.

Rory and Phil were pretty awful this weekend. Snedeker had a pretty piss poor Sunday as well. Furyk folded bigtime over the weekend as well. Pretty clear he just can't play well under pressure anymore. Really would have been happy with Day winning it, too. I thought being -3 after 2 holes he was ready for a big run.

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I was in the thread the entire week. I don't run away when he doesn't win.


Brutal, especially Phil.


He started well, and completely fell apart. His approach at 13 was terrible. How do you leave that many putts 15 and 20 feet short?


That bunker shot on 2 was awesome. He said after the tournament, that the pressure got to him. If he can get the flat stick working for four rounds, he has the game to win a major or two.

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Great drama yesterday. I actually wanted Day to win but ok with Scott winning. Cabrera
didn't deserve it although that shot on 18 was crazy good.

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No shit. Especially after watching Scott sink that long putt. I couldn't believe Angel put his approach shot that close to the pin.

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He had to tell the gallery to be quiet, before he hit it, too. That guy certainly is mentally tough.

I love how he just walks up, and hits the ball. He will probably never get a slow play penalty. I hope Kevin Na was watching.

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Kevin Na was to busy with his ball retriever fishing his golf balls out of the water.

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He's a national commentator paid to have opinions on the spot, he's not paid to mull it over for 24 hours and wait for new information to appear the next morning from the rules committee.

He's not the only person who felt Tiger should DQ himself when the story first surfaced, other pros like David Duval said so as well. And even Ugie stated that he felt Tiger should DQ until he heard the full explanation THE NEXT DAY. So how did Faldo act any differently from any of those guys or millions of others who felt that was as well?

I don't really give a shit about Faldo and I'm a Tiger fan, but the outcry in this thread about Faldo is hypocritical at best and idiotic at worst.

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The world rankings are a joke. Donald hasn't been relevant in any event since at least early August or into July and yet he still is in the top 10.

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Agreed, but he hates Tiger so much, that he got his head out in front of his skis. He never passes up an opportunity to take a shot at Tiger. Sometimes, he will look foolish doing so, like this weekend. As an avid viewer of golf, and fan of Tiger, I enjoyed watching Faldo backpedal. I'm not limiting this to Faldo. I am including the clowns on The Golf Channel, like Frank Nobilo.



Are you really still considered a pro when you are ranked #1449 in the world? David Duval is whiny little Caller Bob, who should spend more time practicing his swing, than being a bitch on twitter. Instead of crying about how he didn't get invited to a tournament, or sobbing about how Tiger isn't his friend anymore, he should hit the range. He is probably the one who called Augusta.

It doesn't matter how many people agreed with Faldo's original thought, if it was wrong from the start. The rule was changed a couple years back after a viewer called in a possible infraction on Padraig Harrington. Ignorance is no excuse. A commentator, and former player, should know the rules. Certainly when you are as opinionated as Faldo is.




I think you are grossly exaggerating the outcry towards Faldo. But, when one carries himself as an arrogant, smug prick, like he does, he can't be surprised by any backlash he receives when he is wrong, as in this case. Hypocrisy is a perfect word to describe Faldo. The guy who cheated on his wife, is going to question the integrity of others? Keep it.

He can learn from Johnny Miller how to stay reasonably objective about a person who you clearly don't like.

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Why do you keep bringing up that Faldo cheated on his wife? How is that relevant to the golf discussion... Especially regarding Tiger. If anything it puts him on the same moral ground.

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I agree that it is a flawed system, but how do you make a perfect scoring system?

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Because Faldo repeatedly brought up integrity.

Why do so many bring up Tiger's infidelity, when talking about golf?

The rules committee levied a two stroke penalty, not a DQ. For Faldo to keep saying that Tiger should have integrity and WD, was ridiculous.

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I'm sure a lot of old timers thought Tiger should WD. Faldo just happens to have a bigger stage on which to say it.

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You don't have to have integrity to think someone else should.

You are right. Off the record, most would say he should have WD'd. The rules were changed, and are pretty clear. A two shot penalty was the right call.



Correct again, but when you are a broadcaster who never passes up a chance to fire on the game's biggest star, and it backfires, like this weekend, you must expect some backlash. He really isn't even getting that much. Certainly not as much as Tiger did.

I get why people don't like Tiger. He is arrogant, and he pouts when he loses, although not as much these days. Winning three out of six tournaments will fix that. It seems to me that most criticism of Tiger always gets back to his whores. I don't care where he puts his schlong.

Nick Faldo talking about somebody else lacking integrity would be like me telling people not to smoke pot, drink beer, or gamble.

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Wonder if that Perkins waitress made Tiger withdraw.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

"Do as I say, not as I do" attitudes don't seem to work very well.

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Probably not. Getting knocked up by Tiger would be hitting the mother load, so to speak.

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