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You know, if you are going to rely on some "new" statistics to analyze something, don't you need to know EXACTLY how they are calculated to truly understand if they are relevant?

All you need to know is if they tell you what you want to hear.
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I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.

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I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.


He's really good.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
You know, if you are going to rely on some "new" statistics to analyze something, don't you need to know EXACTLY how they are calculated to truly understand if they are relevant?


Not necessarily. I think the point Brian made about people are subject matter experts in terms of the intricacies. There are plenty of examples in every life where I don't understand how something works but I can analyze that if it's helpful or not helpful tom e.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
You know, if you are going to rely on some "new" statistics to analyze something, don't you need to know EXACTLY how they are calculated to truly understand if they are relevant?

Exactly?

Are you kidding?

He doesn't even know how to apply them correctly.

He literally just regurgitates what he reads on fangraphs.

Its hard to understand, that's why I try to always point out that its inexact and not magic.

Bernstein believes they are magic.
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Northside_Dan wrote:
I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.


He's really good.

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Northside_Dan wrote:
I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.


He's really good.

Where have you guys been?

He's been fighting the good baseball/boxing fight since like 04 on ESPNEWS
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Northside_Dan wrote:
I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.


He's really good.

Where have you guys been?

He's been fighting the good baseball/boxing fight since like 04 on ESPNEWS


I've been a fan of his for a while.

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Northside_Dan wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
You know, if you are going to rely on some "new" statistics to analyze something, don't you need to know EXACTLY how they are calculated to truly understand if they are relevant?


Not necessarily. I think the point Brian made about people are subject matter experts in terms of the intricacies. There are plenty of examples in every life where I don't understand how something works but I can analyze that if it's helpful or not helpful tom e.


Then you are just assuming that they are correct because, here I'm going to do it, "really smart people" told you it is correct.

Without knowing the factors, it would seem impossible to determine a causation vs. correlation analysis.

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I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.


He's really good.

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He must not be related to Crane.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Then you are just assuming that they are correct because, here I'm going to do it, "really smart people" told you it is correct.

Without knowing the factors, it would seem impossible to determine a causation vs. correlation analysis.


That's fair. I can't put up an argument to that except to say that I feel it is something that the vast majority of people do.

Saber stats are very interesting to me and deserve to be a part of the analysis when discussing a player. This point does not belittle the value of old fashioned scouting.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Northside_Dan wrote:
I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.


He's really good.

Where have you guys been?

He's been fighting the good baseball/boxing fight since like 04 on ESPNEWS


I've been a fan of his for a while.

I started the day before you.

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He was great with Beano!
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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Northside_Dan wrote:
I'm officially a Brian Kenny fan.


He's really good.

Eaglo Jeff wrote:
He must not be related to Crane.



Fixed?

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Moment of silence for Beano Cook please...Thank you.
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Wow. That was the smartest baseball thought Lil Danny has ever had. Wonders will never cease.
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Moment of silence for Beano Cook please...Thank you.


I have no significant thoughts about Beano Cook's death and I'm going to say I'll pray for him but I'm not really going to do it.

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Wow. That was the smartest baseball thought Lil Danny has ever had. Wonders will never cease.

Which thought?
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SHARK wrote:
Moment of silence for Beano Cook please...Thank you.

Ironically, I farted.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Wow. That was the smartest baseball thought Lil Danny has ever had. Wonders will never cease.

Which thought?

Right now, they're both stating shitty imaginary Cubs fan thoughts.

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I don't understand why the Cubs suck!

Nice way to misrepresent fans and incorrectly paint them as idiots. Cubs fans are well aware why they suck. They are wondering why they have to suck so much. Whatever.
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This whole thread made me lulz. Good work everyone.

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Whatever. Cubs and Hawks fans get more broad brushstrokes from Dan than his bathroom wall.

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Kirkwood wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Wow. That was the smartest baseball thought Lil Danny has ever had. Wonders will never cease.

Which thought?

Right now, they're both stating shitty imaginary Cubs fan thoughts.

Imaginary Cubs fan wrote:
I don't understand why the Cubs suck!

Nice way to misrepresent fans and incorrectly paint them as idiots. Cubs fans are well aware why they suck. They are wondering why they have to suck so much. Whatever.

They suck a bit less with Lillibridge gone

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Dan wasn't serious with his Cheryl Swoopes thought right?

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Dan wasn't serious with his Cheryl Swoopes thought right?

What was it? Don't tell me he wants to breed her, too!

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ZZ is on, beni listens so you don't have to


bag it. Maybe another day.
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Dan wasn't serious with his Cheryl Swoopes thought right?

What was it? Don't tell me he wants to breed her, too!


That she's engaged to a man and no longer gay because Loyola told her to.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Dan wasn't serious with his Cheryl Swoopes thought right?

What was it? Don't tell me he wants to breed her, too!

touched on it in the 4/15 thread. nice work beni

Swoopes has a man now. Suggested she did it to get a job. Various poor tasting jokes followed...


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It's not unthinkable. You know how the Catholics can be.

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Their thoughts on female basketball players (an female athletes in general) have not been what you would call enlightened. But I suppose that boner pills and strip clubs pay the bills so I'm not sure why I expected otherwise.

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