The Peavy contract made it clear to me that any restocking won't occur for another 2 years. Peavy, Dunn, Rios, Danks all come off the books after 2014. Konerko and Thornton are finished in 2013 (although I'd like to still have Konerko). That's 70 million of contracts per year off the books.

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I've seen enough of Gavin Floyd on the whole. I'm not holding my breath that Dylan Axelrod changes the White Sox misery in Toronto this eve either.

The White Sox have made a couple of alterations in tonight's lineup. The changes are in BOLD. Here's how the Sox lineup vs. Blue Jays' righty Josh Johnson:

30 Alejandro De Aza CF (L)
7 Jeff Keppinger 2B (R)
51 Alex Rios RF (R)
32 Adam Dunn 1B (L)
14 Paul Konerko DH (R)
12 Conor Gillaspie 3B (L)
24 Dayan Viciedo LF (R)
10 Alexei Ramirez SS (R)
38 Hector Gimenez C (S)
Starting Pitcher: 33 Dylan Axelrod (RHP; 0-1, 5.79 ERA)

The Jays have made one noticeable change in their lineup. Here's how they'll lineup vs. Axelrod:

1 Emilio Bonifacio RF (S)
53 Melky Cabrera LF (S)
9 J.P. Arencibia C (R)
10 Edwin Encarnacion DH (R)
26 Adam Lind 1B (L)
13 Brett Lawrie 3B (R)
28 Colby Rasmus CF (L)
3 Maizer Izturis 2B (S)
66 Monenori Kawasaki SS (L)
Starting Pitcher: 55 Josh Johnson (RHP; 0-1, 11.05 ERA)

I feel more comfortable with Axelrod taking the bump than Floyd on any given day.

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would prefer Santiago to either of them

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What is wrong with Buatista?

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Currently sidelined with a sore back. Jose Bautista...Day to day like you & me. Blue Jays 3B Brett Lawrie has been activated from the DL after missing the first 2 weeks with a strained rib cage.

I'd rather Todd Ritchie or Ryan Bukvich than "losing pitcher" Gavin Floyd.

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@dan_bernstein & I are really enjoying Gavin's starts

Ryan Bukvich...

Chris Rongey once asked him "What kind of pitcher are you?"

Bukvich's response..."Right handed."

That's a real nice job by Axelrod. Now only if this shit bucket offense can find a way to scratch out a couple runs.

Pauly swinging away on 3-0. I love it!

DeWise is still my favorite baseball player.

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That was really a nice win at this point in the season for the Sox. They needed a game like that where they came from behind, and then went ahead late. Reed looked shaky for the first 2 batters, but then looked near unhittable again.


Remember when Joe Orr thought I was nuts saying that Floyd could be replaced relatively easily with Quintana or possible Axelrod? Yeah. He sure has been quiet about "losing pitcher" Gavin Floyd so far. I think that if Danks can come back in May, he may end up having more wins this year than Floyd.

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You know as well as I do what you get out of Floyd. He is a streaky pitcher who I'm pretty sure is historically bad in April. You and Joe will each have your day in the sun on him this season.

No one in MLB is choosing Axlerod over Floyd. He will never max out at anything more than 5th starter. He is probably the 6th best SP on the team right now and 7th once Danks gets back. I do appreciate his effort.

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Not to mention the ridiculous Quintana mention

We'll see.

Clearly I'm overestimating Axelrod, but I think Quintana could be a solid #2, and I also think Floyd has regressed over the last 1-1.5 seasons and will be under .500 with an ERA closer to 5 than it is 4 from here on out.

Which was my point all along actually. I firmly believe Quintana can give you a .500 record with an ERA in the range of 4.50 this season. I don't even expect that out of Floyd.

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Quintana a solid #2?

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Quintana needs pinpoint control to be decent. I wouldnt expect that.

Ill bump this in two years and we'll see if Quintana is closer to being a #2 starter or selling insurance.

You're in good company Frank!!


Spiegel: White Sox Overpaying For Mediocrity With Floyd
April 17, 2013 8:47 AM
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(CBS) It comes up just about every time Gavin Floyd pitches.

He’s got the stuff to be a top-of-the-rotation pitcher, but the track record and execution of a No. 4 starter. This is beyond a talking point – it’s what talent evaluators say, what scouts say and what his own coaches will admit.

When one of those consistently underwhelming starts is taking place, there’s a temptation to try and accept Floyd for what he is. If you try to divorce yourself from the concept of his potential, well, should White Sox fans be happy with what they’ve got as a No. 4 starter?

No. No, they should not.


How many other No. 4 starters around baseball even approach making the kind of money Floyd does?

Our listener, friend and baseball blogger Johnny No Pants (I know, a proud nom de plume) did the work.

We’ll call him John Malioris when the research is this good.

According to current depth charts, Gavin is the fourth highest paid No. 4 starter in baseball with a salary of $9.5 million in 2013. And the top three (Tim Lincecum, Josh Beckett, and Dan Haren) are all one-time aces, fading terribly, though still being paid on their top-tier contracts.

For a team with payroll constraints, Floyd qualifies as a financialburden.

This is the final year of his deal, and the final trade deadline at which to hope some other GM thinks he has the key to unlock unrealized possibilities.

Let someone else try.

What is so crazy about suggesting that a 24 year old lefty, in his second FULL season in the starting rotation could blossom into a #2 over the course of the next say 1-3 seasons?

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The potential just is not there. What do you see in him that says he could ever get to a #2?

If he was with the Cubs and a Cub fan made that statement you would laugh them off the site.

At the best he could be a decent 4th or 5th starter on a solid pitching staff.

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His production may make him that. I don't think his stuff is what you target for the top half of a rotation. He just has to be so perfect to be good. That said, he was a steal as a reclamation project and I am glad to have him.

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It is my belief that he got by on a combination of unsustainable pinpoint control and being new to the league.


I doubt he lasts the year

DJ Carrasco career arc.

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Reliever Daunte Heath, we hardly knew ye...Optioned to Triple "A" Charlotte after last night's White Sox winner. OF Jordan Danks, not IF's Brent Morel, Steve Tolleson or Carlos Sanchez, joins the White Sox big club in Toronto this eve. He'll likely be on RV's bench with lefty J.J. Happ starting this eve for the Blue Jays. Might Danks be headed back once IF Angel (pronounced an-jel) Sanchez is eligible to come off the DL perhaps early next week?

Quintana is good. My fav.

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He was real good last Friday, but got saddled with a loss in Cleveland. Damn offense!

Did you stop watching in July last year?

The guy is learning at the big league level. Its not like I'm saying this with the guy playing in A ball like some teams fanbases are...

I'm not saying he is going to be an ace. I'm saying he could be "good", a #2. Better than Gavin Floyd. Would that surprise anybody?

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