I agree with last sentence. But I just think Bears and Cubs hold a deeper hate. The "Lovable Losers" angle. The playing in St. Wrigley Cathedral where the fans "don't care" if the Cubs win or lose. But now they care about winning too much and need to wait and not care. Hatred of Cubs fans walking a goat for charity..."I hope they die". Seriously, WTF? The crazy obsession with Crane Kenney and his uniform. The even crazier obsession of Kerry Wood's "contract" in Ricketts' drawer. I've lost count how many times BIG.BOY.BASEBALL has been yelled at Cubs fans. Or his very favorite "maudlin". The Cubs culture is everything Dan hates about fandom.

It's a thread about narratives.

wikipedia really does have the answer to every question

It's not a controlled experiment if the subject knows about the experiment...Hi Dan!

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In my opinion in the couple years Ive listened to them, here is what I hear

LOVES
Theo
Jerry
Thibs
John McDonaugh
Ricketts

HATE
Cub/Sox fans
Bears fans
Hawks Fans
Jerry Angelo


LOVE/HATE relationship
Derrick
Kaner
Hawk

Your post can take me there

They most certainly don't love John McDonough. If anything, it's more like begrudging respect for successfully selling the Cubs and Hawks, while maintaining contempt for him being the one who sold the Cubs and Hawks and thus created all these Cubs/Hawks fans. They don't hate him as much as old-time Hawks fans do, though, that's for sure.

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I guess Im going off the admiration of Bernstein relaying the "we havent done ANYTHING yet"

But even that was an anecdote from three years ago couched in a column about how celebrating Marian Hossa's 1,000th game was the typically mawkish crap that McDonough sells to puff up quotidian engagements for the idiot masses.

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Silvy & Waddle?
PS - Sorry for disappearing last night...in Philly and the wife called.

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“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

So your wife is more important than the board then? Fuck YOU!

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"Cowabunga? Cowa fucking piece of dog shit! This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick!"

I'd say it coincided with LeBron's taking his talents to South Beach. Any fan who expressed the opinion that the Bulls could defeat Miami was immediately dismissed as basketball stupid. Goff loved to tweak fans in that regard as well. Not sure why Bad thinks they get a pass.

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“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Dan himself thought the Bulls could defeat Miami until the Heat tied the series 1-1, at which point forget it.

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Why is it wrong to have fun at a ballgame? It's doesn't have to be like your fucking job. It's not life and death. A winning team is great but I feel bad for anyone who can't enjoy sports unless the team they pull for is a champion. And it's a very strange attitude for a Chicagoan. I could see that being a reasonable position for stoneroses.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yeah that's a pretty good description of Cubs fans.

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“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Kinda, but more specifically it was due to the fact that in Game 2 (and every game thereafter), Miami made the defensive adjustment of putting James on Rose. The Bulls proved to have no answer offensively for it. So, I see what you're saying, but this really isn't narrative material here.

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Kid Cairo: 2013 March Madness Tournament Winner!

"Cowabunga? Cowa fucking piece of dog shit! This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick!"

AND

They replaced Get Down Tonight (which seemed to suggest PARTY IN WRIGLEYVILLE!!) to Go Cubs Go (which at least celebrates the actual WIN)

I like the change

I seem to remember him saying that the Bulls had about a 25% chance of winning...which isn't bad and probably about right IMO. I didn't agree with his tearing into callers who expressed optimism given that even he allowed for the possibility.

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“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the White Sox play a song on the public address system after wins? Don't they set off fireworks? So it's too much to play a song after winning just another game in June, but it's okay to celebrate winning one of 81 games with a series of giant flashing explosions in the sky.

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Yankees play NY, NY after every win.

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I don't get it either. It's why college games are so much fun to attend or watch. It's why I don't like soccer but would love to attend the World Cup or a game in Europe. The crowds look like they're college crowds on steriods.

This. That sums up my feelings exactly.
I was undoubtedly wrong in completely dismissing the idea that they rip Cub fans. However, I strongly disagree with the notion that they pick on them more than Sox fans or followers of any other team. My guess is we tend to have rabbit ears when our team is criticized which leads to the perception they are disproportionately targeted.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Isn't it more about the awful song than the celebration of a victory?

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“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Well, opinion of Champaign hasn't changed yet.


HARDCORE AMERICAN SOUTH THAT

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Not when combined with his demand that a 61-win Cubs team ACT LIKE YOU'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE after a walk-off win.

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

Act like you've been there before

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Do you think the new Jumbotron will explode?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Only due to shoddy wiring.

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Me: Did you have fun at the game?

4 year old: Yeah

Me: And what did you learn about baseball?

4 year old: When they hit a homerun there's fireworks!



No point to that. Just thought it was a cute little kid thing to say