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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:01 pm 
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FBI now acknowledges they interviewed Tsarnaev 2 years ago at the request of a foreign country about possible extremist ties


So who takes the blame for this. Obama,No. Holder,no. Who?


Your guy Alex Jones struck out again, so now you point fingers at the President?


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FBI now acknowledges they interviewed Tsarnaev 2 years ago at the request of a foreign country about possible extremist ties


So who takes the blame for this. Obama,No. Holder,no. Who?



Why does somebody have to take blame? What had he done up to this point?


Everything has to be a partisan hatchet job with him. Unless President Obama personally rounds up Muslims, and ships them back home, Chas will blame him for everything.

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Keeping Score wrote:
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FBI now acknowledges they interviewed Tsarnaev 2 years ago at the request of a foreign country about possible extremist ties


So who takes the blame for this. Obama,No. Holder,no. Who?



Why does somebody have to take blame? What had he (Tsarnaev) done up to this point?


They interviewed him 2 years ago for extremist ties.
1 year ago he is allowed to become a citizen.
He blows up people at a race, it takes them how many days before they find out who he is? How long it took them to nail down when he came to the country and what his immigration status.
All this money they are spending and all the laws they are passing on homeland security and it takes them how long to resolve the situation?
And now we are expected when they pass the new immigration laws to fix the borders and actually enforce the laws?

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I saw this somewhere, and thought it might need to be posted here.

Extremist Muslims are to muslims as the Westboro Baptist Church are to Christians. Something to think about before you judge people.

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I saw this somewhere, and thought it might need to be posted here.

Extremist Muslims are to muslims as the Westboro Baptist Church are to Christians. Something to think about before you judge people.


But this is different. This is Muslims, not Christians.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
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FBI now acknowledges they interviewed Tsarnaev 2 years ago at the request of a foreign country about possible extremist ties


So who takes the blame for this. Obama,No. Holder,no. Who?


So.... the president is supposed to take responsibility for 1 person out of 300,000,000 who the FBI didn't catch onto earlier?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:23 pm 
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I saw this somewhere, and thought it might need to be posted here.

Extremist Muslims are to muslims as the Westboro Baptist Church are to Christians. Something to think about before you judge people.

Very well said!!!

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I saw this somewhere, and thought it might need to be posted here.

Extremist Muslims are to muslims as the Westboro Baptist Church are to Christians. Something to think about before you judge people.


Bullshit.

Anyone worth their salt knows Islamic Extremists are to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity.

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I saw this somewhere, and thought it might need to be posted here.

Extremist Muslims are to muslims as the Westboro Baptist Church are to Christians. Something to think about before you judge people.


It's a good point, but you are just naive.

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They interviewed him 2 years ago for extremist ties.

And?

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1 year ago he is allowed to become a citizen.

He went through the legal channels to become a citizen. I thought you want that?

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He blows up people at a race, it takes them how many days before they find out who he is? How long it took them to nail down when he came to the country and what his immigration status.

How do you know what they knew, and when they knew it?

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All this money they are spending and all the laws they are passing on homeland security and it takes them how long to resolve the situation?

It took four days to find two guys in a huge city.

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And now we are expected when they pass the new immigration laws to fix the borders and actually enforce the laws?

Derp.

Stop reading infowars and prison planet.

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They interviewed him 2 years ago for extremist ties.

And?

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1 year ago he is allowed to become a citizen.

He went through the legal channels to become a citizen. I thought you want that?

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He blows up people at a race, it takes them how many days before they find out who he is? How long it took them to nail down when he came to the country and what his immigration status.

How do you know what they knew, and when they knew it?

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All this money they are spending and all the laws they are passing on homeland security and it takes them how long to resolve the situation?

It took four days to find two guys in a huge city.

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And now we are expected when they pass the new immigration laws to fix the borders and actually enforce the laws?

Derp.

Stop reading infowars and prison planet.


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I saw this somewhere, and thought it might need to be posted here.

Extremist Muslims are to muslims as the Westboro Baptist Church are to Christians. Something to think about before you judge people.


True and not true.
Westboro does not blow up little kids.
If all the Extremist Muslims did was protest the world would be a much better place

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Derp.

Stop reading infowars and prison planet.


Watch yourself.

You want the derp, you get the herp.


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Derp.

Stop reading infowars and prison planet.


Watch yourself.

You want the derp, you get the herp.


What is the herp? Is that when you passive-aggressively defend Chas?

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We need to round up everybody who is quiet, loves soccer, and smokes weed. These people have no business in this country, but that pussy Obama won't do anything about it. Figures.

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Soccer fan....east coast....I wouldn't be shocked if he hummed the Fandango song all the way from the boat to the hospital.

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The first person that claims weed was the issue here is getting a message board Caller Bob punt.

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Tweeting under the name @j_tsar, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, sent a tweet out a few hours after the marathon bombings that said: "Ain't no love in the heart of the city, stay safe people."

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That 19 year old kid really didn't know what he was doing. Didn't grasp it. He wasn't religious. He didn't care about politics. He was an all American 19 year old. He liked pot, soccer and wrestling. That brother brain washed him in quick order. Like maybe in a week's time. Maybe guilted him into helping him.

Don't get me wrong. He dropped the bag and was old enough to know what he was doing. He deserves what he's gonna get. I'm just saying he didn't do it for any religious or political reasons. Hell, his friend said he wasn't religious or political. He did it cuz he wanted to please his brother. He admired him and thought if his brother says it's for the right reasons, then it must be. That's it. This was 100% the older brother's cause. I'm convinced of that even more than I was when I knew nothing about either of them. And I thought it the second I saw the video of them turning that corner.


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That 19 year old kid really didn't know what he was doing. Didn't grasp it. He wasn't religious. He didn't care about politics. He was an all American 19 year old. He liked pot, soccer and wrestling. That brother brain washed him in quick order. Like maybe in a week's time. Maybe guilted him into helping him.

Don't get me wrong. He dropped the bag and was old enough to know what he was doing. He deserves what he's gonna get. I'm just saying he didn't do it for any religious or political reasons. Hell, his friend said he wasn't religious or political. He did it cuz he wanted to please his brother. He admired him and thought if his brother says it's for the right reasons, then it must be. That's it. This was 100% the older brother's cause. I'm convinced of that even more than I was when I knew nothing about either of them. And I thought it the second I saw the video of them turning that corner.


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Beardown wrote:
That 19 year old kid really didn't know what he was doing. Didn't grasp it. He wasn't religious. He didn't care about politics. He was an all American 19 year old. He liked pot, soccer and wrestling. That brother brain washed him in quick order. Like maybe in a week's time. Maybe guilted him into helping him.

Don't get me wrong. He dropped the bag and was old enough to know what he was doing. He deserves what he's gonna get. I'm just saying he didn't do it for any religious or political reasons. Hell, his friend said he wasn't religious or political. He did it cuz he wanted to please his brother. He admired him and thought if his brother says it's for the right reasons, then it must be. That's it. This was 100% the older brother's cause. I'm convinced of that even more than I was when I knew nothing about either of them. And I thought it the second I saw the video of them turning that corner.


I'm pretty close to agreeing with Beardown. :shock:

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If this guy is guilty, he should get the strictest punishment allowed. However, its terrible he was not read his Miranda rights. The justice system, getting legal representation and right to a fair trial is one of the things that makes this country great. I think this guy is probably guilty as sin, but that doesn't mean he should not have the same rights to a fair and speedy trial that every other American gets.

Its a good thing that they got him, and got him so quickly. Its still a sad day for our country.

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I saw this somewhere, and thought it might need to be posted here.

Extremist Muslims are to muslims as the Westboro Baptist Church are to Christians. Something to think about before you judge people.


True and not true.
Westboro does not blow up little kids.
If all the Extremist Muslims did was protest the world would be a much better place


Extremist Muslims are to Muslims, as the people who blow up abortion clinics are to Christians.

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I don't give a shit about his Miranda rights. They have plenty of evidence (including both brothers shooting at Police and throwing bombs at them) to put him away for life-if not execute him. At this point it's about extracting as much information as possible. Were these 2 aided by any other individuals or terrorist organizations? Whether the information is excluded from trial is unimportant. They need to know ASAP, so as to avoid any further incidents, should anyone else (individual or group) be planning on further bombings, that might have been connected to this. I don't care if they torture the bastard to get the information, as they did to guys at Guantanamo. He was involved in terrorism and should be treated as such.

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I don't give a shit about his Miranda rights.


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I don't give a shit about his Miranda rights.


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You probably don't even understand what Miranda rights are. They are important only in so far as exclusionary evidence. If this whackjob gives up any information that implicates him in any way in the bombings or in terrorist activities prior to being advised of him Miranda rights (that he has the right to remain silent, that anything he says can and will be used against him. That he has a right to an attorney and if he cannot afford one, one will be appointed to him. That he has the right to have an attorney present during questioning) then any information divulged would be excluded at trial. But they have enough evidence to have him put away for life (or executed) already anyway. So getting the information is the only thing to focus on for the Police. Whether it will be admissible in court doesn't matter. He shot at and killed a Police officer. He's never going to be free again anyway. So his Miranda rights don't matter. Getting information that could turn out to save more lives does.

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Weren't they saying that this is a 48 hour limited time period where he would not be given his miranda rights?

What about that Dorner guy? I am assuming that even though he killed police officers he would have been given his rights because he wasn't a terrorist threat but just a nutcase on a killing spree.

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He's still an American citizen. He's not convicted yet. He has rights.
I know it sucks for those who want their pound of flesh but we must respect this guys rights.
He's not an enemy combatant. He's a citizen. Barely of voting age.
Look, I know for shitty cops those pesky constitutional rights are just a burden but we can't just not observe the constitution when it suits us. Or maybe someday, Steve, your rights will be ignored and when you need a lawyer or if you're wrongly accused you are tortured.
What kind of sick person says they have no problem with the government torturing an American?
That's fucked.

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