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Dershowitz also called Graham and McCain ignorant of the law last night for suggesting that Jahar could be held and tried as an enemy combatant.



How come you use the last names for the first three in your sentence, and then you go all first name for the psychopath sick fuck? Alleged pyschopath sick fuck.


It's obvious.

I want to create a sense of sympathy for Jahar so it makes it harder for people to want to hate him and kill him.

Or I just like typing Jahar.

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Maybe as a Christian nation we can not execute this guy like those fucking savages would.

I doubt it.

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Maybe as a Christian nation we can not execute this guy like those fucking savages would.

I doubt it.

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Seriously, both of you. That shit is annoying. Don't ruin the selective and timely use of the gif-bomb for everyone.

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Staying on topic a bit.

Some cool stuff from Boston today.

Neil Diamond was on hand at the other Sox game to sing Sweet Caroline.....and Big Papi gave an impassioned speech dropping the "F" bomb while doing so. "This is our fucking city!"

Both are on Youtube.

Good stuff.


I bet he gave that same speech in AAA the other night.

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Listen, the conspirasy people are out with this. About how these guys are being set up. But listen to the mother again. What she's saying is that her oldest son worked for the FBI.

It's broken english, but I finally figured out what's she saying. She saying that the FBI loved him. That they would say that to her. Then they started to set him up by saying they were scared of him. That he was becoming an too radical in his Islamic beliefs. That, in her mind, was the set up to pin this bombing on him. The key thing she said was that they "Controlled him for 5 years".

Sounds nuts, right? But think about this. Why is the FBI talking to the mother about her son? Why are they giving her updates on him? Why? The old man is saying they're being set up too. Maybe the old man was an old double agent working for the FBI against Russia in the old days and got his sons involved.

I think it's very interesting. Once again, she's saying her son worked for the FBI.

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Thanks for the stories KS. Seems the little bastard became radicalized between Jan and March.

Beardown, take your conspiracy stories to infowars, not here.

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Its very possible Beardown. Something is very strange about these two. The strangest thing is that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is tweeting stuff that makes you wonder how he is acting so normal leading up to the bombing. Normally people who do this become so inverted that they avoid any public or social interaction, similar to how the older brother was acting.

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Now, he still could have done it. Probably did. Perhaps he was a double agent working with Russia against us. That's plausible as well. But I don't think it's insane to think he did work for the FBI after what the Mother just said in that 5 minute rant.

But listen to the mother speak. Look how passionate she is. She so wanted to get her point across.


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At the very least I believe her when she said her son was under survelince for 5 years. Making it all the more curious that they didn't pick him up right after the bombings. That they had to go to the public 3 days later, with a picture of someone they knew, asking "Who is this, America? Help us." Fuck you FBI. They were on him for 5 god damn years or he worked for them for 5 years. Either scenario, something ain't right.


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U.S. officials said a special interrogation team for high-value suspects would question him without reading him his Miranda rights, under a public safety exception that exists to protect police and the public from immediate danger. Miranda rights include the right to remain silent and the right to have a lawyer.

This would be an interesting piece of law... according to the police, they believe everyone responsible is in custody or dead, so at this point does that exception apply? IANAL, so I have no idea, but I could see the police looking at this from one side and the defense from another.

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At the very least I believe her when she said her son was under survelince for 5 years. Making it all the more curious that they didn't pick him up right after the bombings. That they had to go to the public 3 days later, with a picture of someone they knew, asking "Who is this, America? Help us." Fuck you FBI. They were on him for 5 god damn years or he worked for them for 5 years. Either scenario, something ain't right.

For all you know the FBI is looking at 20 million people a year... it might be hard to narrow it down to 2. I have a feeling you may be on the list! ;)

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At the very least I believe her when she said her son was under survelince for 5 years. Making it all the more curious that they didn't pick him up right after the bombings. That they had to go to the public 3 days later, with a picture of someone they knew, asking "Who is this, America? Help us." Fuck you FBI. They were on him for 5 god damn years or he worked for them for 5 years. Either scenario, something ain't right.

For all you know the FBI is looking at 20 million people a year... it might be hard to narrow it down to 2. I have a feeling you may be on the list! ;)


Ok. But do they have 20 million files of Boston area after people after a bomb goes off in Boston? Would it be hard to narrow down the Boston list? How hard would it have been to click on Boston files? Once again, why didn't it strike some of the agents that interviewed him for 5 years to go knock on his door. And how come nobody recognized him after they fingured him with pictures? Nobody will ever have a good answer for that.

And why my question hasn't been raised by the media is beyond me.


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I think he might have been a contracted agent for the FBI. Not full time. Just make some trips to Russia to check out shit. That's why he was probably there for 6 months most recently.

I think the FBI is trying to hide that he was one of theirs. Or if I'm wrong, at the very least, they were trying to hide that he was looked at by the FBI. But that came out. That's why they played dumb and asked America to help him. He did the bombing. But how bad would it be if the FBI had to admit that the terrorist was CIA or FBI? That would be pretty damn bad. Pretty tough for those poor victims to take as well.

The cover up is worse than the crime. FBI shold come clean. Will they? Hell no. Why should they? Those responsible are fired either way. So might as well lie. That's what they're thinking right now. And they're also thinking, we're the god damn FBI. We can get away with it.

To say they are responsible for the marathon is in question. But the FBI absolutley responsible for the death of that cop. That's just a fact.


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Interesting,more is coming out than the Govt wants I think
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844
The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI operatives were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

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We will all note that you ignored Speeps more accurate analogy that Extremist Muslims are the Christian equivalent of the KKK.


Except in opposite proportion.


Joe Orr - I wasn't sure I understood this post. Can you elaborate?

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Interesting,more is coming out than the Govt wants I think
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844
The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI operatives were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

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What's interesting is that you are reading a tabloid site, and presenting it as an actual credible source.

The headline story is a soccer player biting another.

The first story under the news tab, is Kate Middleton hiding her baby bump.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Page 2 probably covers the Kardashians.

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I'm gonna read the National Enquirer. I will report what I find.

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Interesting,more is coming out than the Govt wants I think
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844
The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI operatives were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

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What's interesting is that you are reading a tabloid site, and presenting it as an actual credible source.

The headline story is a soccer player biting another.

The first story under the news tab, is Kate Middleton hiding her baby bump.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Page 2 probably covers the Kardashians.


Happy post 4/20 day, Chus!


And to you, as well. What a glorious day it is today.

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It is interesting that some Syrian hackers have gotten actively involved and basically took over much of CBS media the past couple of days.

I'm too stupid to put any thought into it though.


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So there's a large cyber attack happens after CISPA passes.

There goes the hope of a Presidential veto.

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It's interesting that now he's shot in the throat and can't talk (although they were negotiating with him upon his surrender originally) and now they're talking about vast stores of ammunition and their "Arsenal" (interesting choice of words.)

Getting out of the boat:

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Doesn't seem shot in the throat. But you never really can tell.

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But while handcuffing him, officers had to dive out of the way as Dzhokhar drove the carjacked Mercedes at them, Deveau said. The sport utility vehicle dragged Tamerlan's body down the block, he said. Police initially tracked the escaped suspect by a blood trail he left behind a house after abandoning the Mercedes, negotiating his surrender hours later after an area resident saw blood and found the suspect huddled in his boat.


Here's a quote from CNN:

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Tsarnaev was arrested Friday morning when, after 25 minutes of negotiations with the FBI, he crawled out of the boat he was hiding in and surrendered, a law enforcement official with knowledge of how the arrest occurred told CNN.

How did he negotiate his surrender? Sign language? 25 minutes of negotiations with someone who now can't talk? Interesting also is the point that they're saying he was arrested Friday "morning". Just a typo from the world's trusted leader in news I guess.

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Except in opposite proportion.


Joe Orr - I wasn't sure I understood this post. Can you elaborate?



Well, the number of active KKK members- even in the Klan's heyday- is/was a very small amount. The number of Muslims who desire an Islamic world under Sharia law is far greater. Not that all of them are planting bombs, but the philosophy is supported.

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Well, the number of active KKK members- even in the Klan's heyday- is/was a very small amount. The number of Muslims who desire an Islamic world under Sharia law is far greater. Not that all of them are planting bombs, but the philosophy is supported.


With all due respect, that's quite a fantastical claim. Being Muslim myself, and aware of general discourse across the Muslim world, the desire to rule the entire globe is mere rhetoric, and only fringe groups espouse such ludicrousness. Now, this is not to deny some desire to incorporate shariah law into larger legal systems in some pockets of the Muslim world. That definitely exists. The critical difference is - something your generalist claim did not reflect - that the only pro-Shariah arguments that garner widespread favor in the Muslim world are those claims that limit Shariah rulings to Muslims themselves, or Muslims who voluntarily submit to these law codes. Voluntary systems like this exist within the Muslim minority community in India, for example, where there is a plurality of legal systems, over which the secular state presides. The state wins out should any conflict arise between the two systems.

Your objection to being ruled over by foreign legal systems is obviously a legitimate and rational one, and something I do share. However, there is an element of smear in your post that I think gives rise to numerous stereotypes about common Muslims, both religious and not.

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Well, the number of active KKK members- even in the Klan's heyday- is/was a very small amount. The number of Muslims who desire an Islamic world under Sharia law is far greater. Not that all of them are planting bombs, but the philosophy is supported.


With all due respect, that's quite a fantastical claim. Being Muslim myself, and aware of general discourse across the Muslim world, the desire to rule the entire globe is mere rhetoric, and only fringe groups espouse such ludicrousness. Now, this is not to deny some desire to incorporate shariah law into larger legal systems in some pockets of the Muslim world. That definitely exists. The critical difference is - something your generalist claim did not reflect - that the only pro-Shariah arguments that garner widespread favor in the Muslim world are those claims that limit Shariah rulings to Muslims themselves, or Muslims who voluntarily submit to these law codes. Voluntary systems like this exist within the Muslim minority community in India, for example, where there is a plurality of legal systems, over which the secular state presides. The state wins out should any conflict arise between the two systems.

Your objection to being ruled over by foreign legal systems is obviously a legitimate and rational one, and something I do share. However, there is an element of smear in your post that I think gives rise to numerous stereotypes about common Muslims, both religious and not.


Does your religion teach that non-Muslims are infidels?

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