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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:52 am 
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Warning. This is a stats guy article. If you are just going to focus on the .210 avg and say he's been bad then please stop reading as we will not find common ground.

One of my very favorite Cubs writers, Brett Taylor on Bleacher Nation.


Forget What You’ve Heard: Anthony Rizzo Has Been Great This Year
By Brett on April 22, 2013

Coming into the 2013 season, the two offensively players you heard mentioned most frequently when folks tried to talk up the Cubs’ otherwise non-existent offense were Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo. Forget that Alfonso Soriano is still around, and forget that Castro’s offensive value is largely tied to his position on the field. The mention of Rizzo was completely legitimate. With a revamped approach that played very well at the big league level last year – when he was just 22/23 – it was completely fair to project that Rizzo could be an offensive cornerstone for the Cubs in 2013 and beyond.

And then he started the 2013 season in a slump. A deep one. He was striking out in every other at bat, and it didn’t look like he was seeing the ball well. Fortunately for Rizzo, that slump lasted all of a week. Unfortunately, the narrative has carried on for almost a month.

Let me state it clearly for those who tuned out after that first week of games: Anthony Rizzo is killing the ball this year.

Yes, he’s hitting just .210 and he’s striking out in more than 25% of his plate appearances. But, once you get past those two numbers, you see a young man who’s blowing up.

First, let’s look at the highest level. Rizzo has six homers, the most of any first baseman in the National League. He’s just one behind Mark Reynolds and Chris Davis for the Major League lead at first base, and is tied for the 8th most homers of anyone in baseball. His 14 RBI don’t just lead the Cubs, they tie Rizzo for the 14th most in baseball. Rizzo’s .842 OPS puts him just behind Mike Trout and Evan Longoria, and ahead of a host of stars, including Carlos Beltran, Andrew McCutchen, and Matt Holliday. I haven’t heard any demotion cries coming out of St. Louis or Pittsburgh.

Digging deeper, Rizzo has been far better than even those numbers suggest. Although that batting average is just .210, his OBP is .310 and his SLG is .532. That gives him an impressive IsoD (the difference between your batting average and your OBP, a measure of your discipline) and a herculean IsoP (the difference between your batting average and your SLG, a measure of how much power you’re producing). In other words, if not for that pesky batting average, Rizzo’s OPS would be near the top of the league. He’s taking a lot of walks, and he’s crushing the ball when he hits it.

And what about that batting average? .210 sucks, and Rizzo can’t be completely excused from it. Or can he? You know where I’m going with this: Rizzo’s BABIP so far this year is an hilariously, unluckily low .184. That number is completely unsustainable, and will climb closer to .300 as the season goes on. I won’t muddy the waters with a lame attempt to project a new slash line if, say, his BABIP were .300, but, suffice it to say, his OBP would be approaching .400 and his SLG would be well over .600.

Even in his approach, there’s very little you could point to in the numbers that support any struggles. Rizzo is swinging at pitches outside of the zone at a lower rate than in either of 2012 or 2011. His contact rate with pitches in the zone is the best in his career, as is that rate at which he’s swinging and missing.

Taking it all together, it’s very hard to argue that Rizzo has been anything but great this year, and is simply being dragged down by some bad luck.

Now, that all said, Rizzo could still fall prey to the Sophomore Slump. It’s early, and any numbers I use to support Rizzo’s breakout could easily be neutered by chants of “small sample size.” Those chants would be completely legitimate, and let me join that chorus right now. These numbers are minuscule and tell us almost nothing about Rizzo’s future in 2013, let alone the next 10 years. I offer the numbers only to refute any grousing that Rizzo hasn’t been hitting so far this year. He has been. In spades.

Everything passes the eye test, too, as – at least to my eye – Rizzo’s approach has looked so much better in the last couple weeks, and he is patiently awaiting the optimal pitch to drive. And, when he gets that pitch, he drives it, using the whole field. Without much effort, I can think of four screaming line drives he’s hit that have been caught in the last 10 days alone. In a season of small samples – that’s all we have in late April – those four liners falling for hits could be the difference between an .842 OPS and a .900 OPS.

Defensively, Rizzo has made some mistakes. There can be no disputing that, and he’d probably be the first to tell you. Some of that is undoubtedly tied to having to adjust to the ranges of several second baseman while Darwin Barney was out. And Rizzo’s pitchers haven’t given him a lot of help when it comes time to cover first base, either. I have no reason to believe Rizzo’s defenses lapses are a fluke, and that he’ll be fine there long-term.

The focus here, however, is on the offensive side of the ball. To anyone who suggests Rizzo has been anything but great – and a touch unlucky – offensively this year, you can tell them: you’re wrong.

So long as Rizzo keeps doing what he’s been doing, the numbers will be there by the end of the year.

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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I watched some Cubs baseball this weekend and I gotta say the ball explodes off his bat when he gets a hold
of it. He hit some pretty deep bombs in Miller Park.

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Good article.

I like that one of the stats was turned into 'fairies'.

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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and he has been a gold glove caliber first baseman

He's just been unlucky for going on 4 weeks...but not really unlucky as he has been great if you pick the right statistics.

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good dolphin wrote:
and he has been a gold glove caliber first baseman


This last series reminded me of the Major League montage where they were bad and kept on losing. Where's the Tom Ricketts cardboard cutout?

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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good dolphin wrote:
and he has been a gold glove caliber first baseman

He's just been unlucky for going on 4 weeks...but not really unlucky as he has been great if you pick the right statistics.

His OPS would be the best in baseball if he wasn't hitting .210!


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Good example of how old tyme stats can lie just as good as the new ones


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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I'd still like too know why he raised his hands. He was hitting the ball consistently harder last year when they were lower.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
I'd still like too know why he raised his hands. He was hitting the ball consistently harder last year when they were lower.


I thought they identified holes. Could be wrong.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
I'd still like too know why he raised his hands. He was hitting the ball consistently harder last year when they were lower.

When his batting stance was like the left handed Eric Davis. Now he's more Bobby Tolan.

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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Too early to say he's been Hosmer'ed... or Gosh forbid... Beckham'ed.

a guy who didn't adjust to the adjustments.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
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I'd still like too know why he raised his hands. He was hitting the ball consistently harder last year when they were lower.


I thought they identified holes. Could be wrong.

They moved his hands down because of the holes in his swing.


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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Apologist wrote:
Too early to say he's been Hosmer'ed... or Gosh forbid... Beckham'ed.

a guy who didn't adjust to the adjustments.

Wait, so you think he's not doing well?

I thought you were a big SABR guy? So you dont agree with the article?


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Northside_Dan wrote:
I have no reason to believe Rizzo’s defenses lapses are a fluke, and that he’ll be fine there long-term.


Nice proof-reading, author person.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Apologist wrote:
Too early to say he's been Hosmer'ed... or Gosh forbid... Beckham'ed.

a guy who didn't adjust to the adjustments.

Wait, so you think he's not doing well?

I thought you were a big SABR guy? So you dont agree with the article?


What I typed actually supports the premise of the article.

I enjoy sabermetrics as a tool for examining the game, but I also believe in things like swing mechanics, stance, timing, and the power of traditional observational scouting.

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Apologist wrote:

I enjoy sabermetrics as a tool for examining the game, but I also believe in things like swing mechanics, stance, timing, and the power of traditional observational scouting.



This isn't meant as a dig at you, but who doesn't?

There are people who think Saber #'s are more or less worthless


But is there anyone who believes in solely sabermetrics style analysis of a player? Why is this disclaimer necessary for anyone who enjoys looking at saber #'s?

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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Keyser Soze wrote:
I'd still like too know why he raised his hands. He was hitting the ball consistently harder last year when they were lower.


Specific Intangible Adjustment

While these numbers are good, the point of "Better at Bats" is also just as important.

I know this is Da Fire and Da passion, but they lost a game last week and Rizzo sat on the bench well after the game was over. The guy was clearly pissed. Just good to know someone else gives a shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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Apologist wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Apologist wrote:
Too early to say he's been Hosmer'ed... or Gosh forbid... Beckham'ed.

a guy who didn't adjust to the adjustments.

Wait, so you think he's not doing well?

I thought you were a big SABR guy? So you dont agree with the article?


What I typed actually supports the premise of the article.

Not really.

The premise of the article seems to suggest that he's hitting well. You have taken the stance that he is not and that is due to him not readjusting.

What am I missing?


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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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I TYPED "it's too early" as disclaimer against the people who would take that position. Quit trying to strawman Brick me here. Kindly read the actual words I typed again. I never said any of what you are suggesting.

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Apologist wrote:
I TYPED "it's too early" as disclaimer against the people who would take that position. Quit trying to strawman Brick me here. Kindly read the actual words I typed again. I never said any of what you are suggesting.

Im not trying to strawman you.

You bring up guys who struggle and say its too early for that. Kind of an odd backwards way to post it.

Misunderstanding on my part, but pretty weird way to put it.


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it would only read that way if i put a "?" behind the first line.

It was a statement... IT'S too early for that kind of thing. To clarify (and yes, i can see the issue with the wording) the "Hosmer'ed and Beckham'd" does not refer literally to the actual players... simply the narrative that get's attached to players who regress to some degree after early promise. Basically I'm giving the article agreement in that traditional counting stats won't tell you the whole story of his year so far...

The second post is an attempt to clarify that I don't think stats can tell you everything... be they counting, traditional, or SABR-oriented.

Hope that elucidates what I was trying to convey.. I often will fire quickly before a thought is lost.

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So does this guy regret writing this article? Small sample sizes are dangerous.


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He's batting .333 when leading off an inning, and OPSing .975.

He's batting 1.000 on balls in play off a 2-0 count.

OPSing a brilliant 1.014 when no outs in the inning, and he is hitting .407 on balls to the outfield.

Those are some pretty nice numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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The kid needs a day off to just chill and collect himself. Whomever told him to compromise his contact swing for more power needs to shut it. Be a good hitter first and then unleash the power swing in favorable counts/matchups.

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He's OPSing 1.917 during the third inning of Wednesday day games when there's 1 out and a man on 3rd. That's incredible!

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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Not sure what the issue with the article is.

And I dont see any oddly specific contingent stats in the article


His BAPIP is now .163

That will certainly go up


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never really seen the guy before last night. huge looping swing. hands too low too long. reminds me of casey at bat. does he spit on his hands too?

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 Post subject: Re: Anthony Rizzo
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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and now his BABIP is high, so expect it to go down.

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