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If the Bears indeed draft a linebacker, might Georgia's Alex Ogletree, not Notre Dame's Mante Te'o, be the choice come the #20 pick barring a trade?


Alec.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:45 pm 
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That's ok SHARC.

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That's ok SHARC.

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Hawk sound now.

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TWTW is the new HawkerMetric.

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This Hawk stuff :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hawk is so excited he can't talk fast enough.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:12 pm 
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I do enjoy Hawk's drawl. I could do without the rest of this.


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I bet Harrelson won't stop blabbering about the MLB Network interview during tonight's White Sox/Rays' game on CSNC Plus.


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Hawk admittedly doesn't care/know about sabermetics, but he keeps repeating "it's not ready yet."

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Terry keeps laughing at all the things that Hawk is saying about sabremetrics, but does anyone doubt that Terry wouldn't have the same attitude as Hawk if he weren't paired with Bernsie?


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ANYONE at ANYTIME in the future that remotely tries to portray Hawk as anything but a mush-minded, unprofessional, irrational, asswipe need only be pointed to what was just played on the Score's airwaves to shut their argument down air-tight.

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Tad Queasy wrote:
Terry keeps laughing at all the things that Hawk is saying about sabremetrics, but does anyone doubt that Terry wouldn't have the same attitude as Hawk if he weren't paired with Bernsie?


Terry used to like the win and RBI stat until Dan wore him down.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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Terry keeps laughing at all the things that Hawk is saying about sabremetrics, but does anyone doubt that Terry wouldn't have the same attitude as Hawk if he weren't paired with Bernsie?


Terry used to like the win and RBI stat until Dan wore him down.


So how does that make him like Hawk? Boers (at least on the surface) learned the lack of value those stats really had, and Hawk hasn't.

We all used to shit our pants, too, but we outgrew that (except Reason). Just because we "did it wrong" before doesn't disqualify our adopting of a better way.

Poor analogy is poor.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:24 pm 
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That Hawk stuff was embarrassing. That's dementia wing nursing home shit.

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I just can't fathom how someone can say the W pitching stat is all that matters. Not saying it's the opposite of that either. But by Hawk's logic, pitcher A had the better day.

A - 5 IP, 6 ER, 3 BB, 2 K, W (10-6)
B - 8 IP, 1 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, L (0-1)

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It's so funny how people argue about the value of baseball stats. If you pitch well, then you get more wins. If you hit well, then you get more RBI. Of course, those stats are dependent upon your teammates, but doesn't any sane baseball fan understand the limitations? All stats, even advanced ones have downsides and limitations. Batting average of balls in play is a perfect example.

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redskingreg wrote:
I just can't fathom how someone can say the W pitching stat is all that matters. Not saying it's the opposite of that either. But by Hawk's logic, pitcher A had the better day.

A - 5 IP, 6 ER, 3 BB, 2 K, W (10-6)
B - 8 IP, 1 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, L (0-1)


This is very true, but consider in game A the wind was blowing out at Wrigley with the Reds in town. Game B the wind was blowing in with the Astros in town.

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If I was still in grad school , I would use one of my stats programs to plot ERA and wins. Running a linear least squares analysis, I bet it would have a very high R squared value, meaning a strong linkage between the two.

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Don Tiny wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
Terry keeps laughing at all the things that Hawk is saying about sabremetrics, but does anyone doubt that Terry wouldn't have the same attitude as Hawk if he weren't paired with Bernsie?


Terry used to like the win and RBI stat until Dan wore him down.


So how does that make him like Hawk? Boers (at least on the surface) learned the lack of value those stats really had, and Hawk hasn't.

We all used to shit our pants, too, but we outgrew that (except Reason). Just because we "did it wrong" before doesn't disqualify our adopting of a better way.

Poor analogy is poor.


Terry is stubborn and irrational if ever forced to defend his position on a topic and rather than provide any sort of rational explanation, or even a few examples to support his position, invariably begins talking in circles and falls back on "Because it is!" or "I don't care." and then starts hurling insults. IMO, Hawk actually came off better than Terry has in similar situations.


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Tad Queasy wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
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Tad Queasy wrote:
Terry keeps laughing at all the things that Hawk is saying about sabremetrics, but does anyone doubt that Terry wouldn't have the same attitude as Hawk if he weren't paired with Bernsie?


Terry used to like the win and RBI stat until Dan wore him down.


So how does that make him like Hawk? Boers (at least on the surface) learned the lack of value those stats really had, and Hawk hasn't.

We all used to shit our pants, too, but we outgrew that (except Reason). Just because we "did it wrong" before doesn't disqualify our adopting of a better way.

Poor analogy is poor.


Terry is stubborn and irrational if ever forced to defend his position on a topic and rather than provide any sort of rational explanation, or even a few examples to support his position, invariably begins talking in circles and falls back on "Because it is!" or "I don't care." and then starts hurling insults. IMO, Hawk actually came off better than Terry has in similar situations.



We agree to disagree then, but I still enjoy your work! :lol: :lol: :wink:

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I'm gonna sing "I'm Proud To Be Ignorant" to the tune of "Proud to be an American".


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The fact that Hawk Harrelson was the GM of the White Sox is surreal and scary at the same time.
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Dallas Winston wrote:
The fact that Hawk Harrelson was the GM of the White Sox is surreal and scary at the same time.
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He should've just said he had a long term plan.

He would've been revered.

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Dallas Winston wrote:
The fact that Hawk Harrelson was the GM of the White Sox is surreal and scary at the same time.
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He put Fisk in left :shock:

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How many years does the Score have the Sox???? The Chairman loves the Hawk...be very wary Danny boy :wink:

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Ed Sherman has about as much credibility as TWTW.

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I am shocked, shocked that Dan's idea for preventing Steubenville-style incidents is privatization.

Privatize what? High school football programs? I do think schools should be out of the brain injury business, but I doubt that prevents rape.


Yeah, moving to a club system. I agree with him to an extent, but my skin crawls anytime someone uses the word "privatization."

That said, I actually thought the show was pretty good today! The worst part was the of buggy stream, which played the Constant Contact commercial five times in a row during every single commercial break.

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Now they will be right no matter what!

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I'm a little late to the party, but according to Bernstein during transition: "The Presidents trophy winners have a history of having a lot of success and winning the Stanley Cup." (I'm paraphrasing because the transition podcast isn't up yet)

So I looked up the stats and since 1985-1986 only 7 Presidents Trophy winners have gone on to win the Stanley Cup while 19 did not, with 3 losing in the Stanley Cup Finals. That's a 27% winning percentage...which isn't too favorable.


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