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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:37 am 
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It starts before porn.

A guy named Joe Montini predicted these things almost 50 years ago.

1. Contraception would lead to conjugal infidelity.

2. Contraceptive practice would lead to a “general lowering of morality.”

3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

4. And finally, widespread acceptance of contraception by couples would lead to a massive imposition of contraception by unscrupulous governments.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:39 am 
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I dont know why you would want to do this, I tried it a couple of times and was meh. If I wanted to jerk off I would. I'm not stopping sex so I can jerkoff at the very end.

I'm busting a nut in an orifice or at the very least she is doing it for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:47 am 
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Seacrest wrote:
It starts before porn.

A guy named Joe Montini predicted these things almost 50 years ago.

1. Contraception would lead to conjugal infidelity.

2. Contraceptive practice would lead to a “general lowering of morality.”

3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

4. And finally, widespread acceptance of contraception by couples would lead to a massive imposition of contraception by unscrupulous governments.


So all those prostitutes they talked about in the Bible.

Lamb skin condoms?

Men, overall, have never been concerned with knocking someone up. The brain tends to sort of switch off when it's Business Time...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:51 am 
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
It starts before porn.

A guy named Joe Montini predicted these things almost 50 years ago.

1. Contraception would lead to conjugal infidelity.

2. Contraceptive practice would lead to a “general lowering of morality.”

3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

4. And finally, widespread acceptance of contraception by couples would lead to a massive imposition of contraception by unscrupulous governments.


So all those prostitutes they talked about in the Bible.

Lamb skin condoms?

Men, overall, have never been concerned with knocking someone up. The brain tends to sort of switch off when it's Business Time...



I think that was his point.

When it's about business, then women, and then by extension, cultures, suffer.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:58 am 
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I don't buy this guy's logic.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:02 pm 
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I disagree with the Contraception blame, also


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Yes. Very far-fetched theorizing there.

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Seacrest wrote:
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It starts before porn.

A guy named Joe Montini predicted these things almost 50 years ago.

1. Contraception would lead to conjugal infidelity.

2. Contraceptive practice would lead to a “general lowering of morality.”

3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

4. And finally, widespread acceptance of contraception by couples would lead to a massive imposition of contraception by unscrupulous governments.


So all those prostitutes they talked about in the Bible.

Lamb skin condoms?

Men, overall, have never been concerned with knocking someone up. The brain tends to sort of switch off when it's Business Time...



I think that was his point.

When it's about business, then women, and then by extension, cultures, suffer.


That argument has nothing to do with morality. It is all based in fear.

I don't believe for a second that contraception has had any affect on marital infidelity.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:06 pm 
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Give me freedom and I'll accept the consequences of that freedom rather than living in fear.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:11 pm 
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Give me freedom and I'll accept the consequences of that freedom rather than living in fear.


Agreed.

You're on a roll lately.

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I think that was his point.



No. His point was that contraception would lead to all of the terrible things that were already occuring long before anyone knew about contraception.

It was a flawed point...

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good dolphin wrote:
Give me freedom and I'll accept the consequences of that freedom rather than living in fear.


True freedom, exercised properly, is devoid of fear. And fear can't touch it either. Recognizing the consequences of our actions is facing down fear, not running from it.

You know who Montini is, and you know where the quote is from. And he highlights what freedom is quite well in the document.

We live in a country and world now racked with fear because we thought we knew better. Those are the facts. The unwillingness to accept the consequences of their unpleasant nature has more to do with a collective dissonannce and ignorance more than anything else.

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Im trying to imagine a world without contraception

Doesnt seem like it would be an improvement


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So...........no condoms, then?

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Im trying to imagine a world without contraception

Doesnt seem like it would be an improvement


I will have the AIDS, with a side of chlamydia.

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I just looked up this Joe Montini guy. I'm not sure he's qualified to speak about much other than winning Super Bowls...

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if no one pays for porn anymore, how do the actors & actresses make any money ?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Im trying to imagine a world without contraception

Doesnt seem like it would be an improvement



I don't think that the world was ever without contraception, was it?

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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Im trying to imagine a world without contraception

Doesnt seem like it would be an improvement



I don't think that the world was ever without contraception, was it?

When did man discover pulling out?

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Douchebag wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Im trying to imagine a world without contraception

Doesnt seem like it would be an improvement



I don't think that the world was ever without contraception, was it?

When did man discover pulling out?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan

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Douchebag wrote:
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Im trying to imagine a world without contraception

Doesnt seem like it would be an improvement



I don't think that the world was ever without contraception, was it?

When did man discover pulling out?


After Joseph saw what kind of a headache that Jesus kid was.

How hard is it to hold your mom's hand when we go to Jerusalem?!

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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Im trying to imagine a world without contraception

Doesnt seem like it would be an improvement



I don't think that the world was ever without contraception, was it?

Im not sure. I was thinking hypothetically though


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3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

This kinda reads like the guy believes the only reason to respect women is because they can be good wives and mothers.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

This kinda reads like the guy believes the only reason to respect women is because they can be good wives and mothers.



I don't read anything like that in what was stated.

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Seacrest wrote:
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3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

This kinda reads like the guy believes the only reason to respect women is because they can be good wives and mothers.



I don't read anything like that in what was stated.

Well, he's taking one part of their lives, SEX, and saying altering that with contraception will stop us from respecting them in their totality.

I would say, My respect of women is not 100% on sex or their ability to be my cherished partner

Obviously, Im reading this out of context and the guy seems like he probably does respect women, but that's how it comes off to me.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

This kinda reads like the guy believes the only reason to respect women is because they can be good wives and mothers.



I don't read anything like that in what was stated.



I would say, My respect of women is not 100% on sex or their ability to be my cherished partner


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I agree, my respect for Mrs Ferguson is only 80% on sex. 10% on housekeeping and 10% for making well cooked bacon.


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3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

This kinda reads like the guy believes the only reason to respect women is because they can be good wives and mothers.



I don't read anything like that in what was stated.



I would say, My respect of women is not 100% on sex or their ability to be my cherished partner


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I agree, my respect for Mrs Ferguson is only 80% on sex. 10% on housekeeping and 10% for making well cooked bacon.

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3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.

This is a joke, right?


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