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If he's not playing in the NBA next season are people going to say it's because he's gay?


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It's kind of sad listening to see a show die before your very eyes. I didn't realize the contribution of Jason was so integral to the show. Whether subliminal or overt, Jason kept the funny in check. Terry just doesn't care, and that's fine. But he should retire if he's not interested. I don't know how a radio partner could let the other guy hijack the show like Dan does. It's 85% Bernsie 15% Terry. That equals 100% BAD! It's not the fun, bad, silly, gay(their words) show anymore. It was the best when it was the little niche show that could. Back when Hood and Zampillo were producing it was fun and different. Now it's just meat grinder radio. Line up the trolls and let Dan shout them down. It's not all that different from what the Dr Laura show used to be. It used to be loose and funny. Now it's serious and groundbreaking. No thanks. Mock if you will, but the Mac & Spiegel show is my favorite thing to listen to. It's mostly for Mac, and I can tolerate Spiegel, though he is quite a douchebag at times. They have fun and don't take shit so damn seriously. I'm not looking for a sociopolitical debate on sports radio.


Jason scolded people for daring to celebrate the Heat losing in the Finals and said that White Sox fans who don't regularly attend games are racist antisemites. The show is worse now, but it was bad then, too.

Jason didn't do that stuff every day. And there's a difference between a guy having an opinion you disagree with and whatever Bernstein is doing on a daily basis. It's just out of control now.


Jason irritated me sometimes, but I really do miss the guy. He kept Dan in check and provided a lot of good content for the show.


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If he's not playing in the NBA next season are people going to say it's because he's gay?


Yes.

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If he's not playing in the NBA next season are people going to say it's because he's gay?



I know one Chicago radio show host that will play that for a show.

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Did anyone hear Dan around 4:45 or 5 p.m. talk about how most of Collins' NBA teammates/NBA players already knew or wouldn't care if Collins was gay. Strange how the thoughts of NBA players mirror those of Dan "the Tennis Ball Dunker" Bernstein...

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If they didn't already know, maybe they got clued in when Collins was the first guy in the showers after practice and the last guy out.


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Dan really painted himself into a corner with today's show. No religious or southern bashing from him anymore. Terry was smart enough to sit on the sidelines most of the day.


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Dan really painted himself into a corner with today's show. No religious or southern bashing from him anymore. Terry was smart enough to sit on the sidelines most of the day.

I was thinking, isn't being intolerant of people who don't have such an open mind as young danny bern stine also a form of bigotry?
Dan ridiculed that last caller at 5:40. The guy couldn't even speak and Danny Bern Stine was calling him a bigot and berating him for being a black bigot. The guy said nothing negative about homosexuals.
I submit to you, CSFMB, that Danny is just as bigoted as he didn't even hear the guy out before wagging his goddamn finger at him and calling him names.

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Odd to hear that Dan Maddowstein is such a gay rights supporter when the term "gay" is used on his show to describe someone that is weird, dumb, creepy or pick your insult.
On an unrelated note I hear wedding planners make great money from gay weddings.

P.S. I'm an evil white suburban Republican who has no problems with gays or gay marriage but to compare him to Jackie Robinson is sad.

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Darkside wrote:
Martin_D wrote:
Dan really painted himself into a corner with today's show. No religious or southern bashing from him anymore. Terry was smart enough to sit on the sidelines most of the day.

I was thinking, isn't being intolerant of people who don't have such an open mind as young danny bern stine also a form of bigotry?
Dan ridiculed that last caller at 5:40. The guy couldn't even speak and Danny Bern Stine was calling him a bigot and berating him for being a black bigot. The guy said nothing negative about homosexuals.
I submit to you, CSFMB, that Danny is just as bigoted as he didn't even hear the guy out before wagging his goddamn finger at him and calling him names.



That is it in a nutshell. Danny and other like him get so caught up in a current cause or some politically correct ideal that they do not see there own bigotry. It might have been the caller you mentioned but in Dan's own words a bigot doesn't really see he is a bigot.

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Martin_D wrote:
Dan really painted himself into a corner with today's show. No religious or southern bashing from him anymore. Terry was smart enough to sit on the sidelines most of the day.

I was thinking, isn't being intolerant of people who don't have such an open mind as young danny bern stine also a form of bigotry?
Dan ridiculed that last caller at 5:40. The guy couldn't even speak and Danny Bern Stine was calling him a bigot and berating him for being a black bigot. The guy said nothing negative about homosexuals.
I submit to you, CSFMB, that Danny is just as bigoted as he didn't even hear the guy out before wagging his goddamn finger at him and calling him names.



That is it in a nutshell. Danny and other like him get so caught up in a current cause or some politically correct ideal that they do not see there own bigotry. It might have been the caller you mentioned but in Dan's own words a bigot doesn't really see he is a bigot.

Yeah, that was the caller where he told him it's a) sad that he's a black bigot and b) said that he doesn't even know how bigoted he was and I'm thinking Danny will drive home tonight with his chest all puffed out thinking that he did IMPORTANT RADIO and he was just as bloody bigoted as the caller COULD have been (had he let the man speak his mind before calling him names).
Completely hypocritical. And it's sad but I do love this show but jesus when they get on their high horse its like fuck man, really?
Even Terry changed the subject or tried to with his "I gotta say Matt Bowen is a good looking man" or something close to that.
He was really saying "Danny. Danny. Slow down."

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Bernstein.
What a fucking phony.
Give up taking this stance because you are a hypocrite.

You want to attack people for their thoughts? What next their morals? And then with whom they associate? You are the bigot.

Check yourself.


I caught that call. If it weren't obvious before, it is now. Dan himself is a bigot.

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If Jason Collins is a hockey player his coming out of the closet gets a segment at most on today's show.

Also, in what way is Dan a bigot? I need to know so that I can properly calibrate my hatred settings.

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That's what I meant toward the end when Terry and Drinky were jumping off the Capt. Bernsie ship.

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If Jason Collins is a hockey player his coming out of the closet gets a segment at most on today's show.

Also, in what way is Dan a bigot? I need to know so that I can properly calibrate my hatred settings.

Dan notoriously berates people who are religious or have beliefs based in religon.
I myself am not religious, but it irkes me. I don't know why.
I guess intolerance is intolerance no matter who the subject is.

Also, Dan is completely oblivious, in my opinion, to life outside his cute little upper middle class whitebread existence. The "JUST MOVE" litany is a case in point. Lots of people can't "just move". Lots of people can't "just get a better job". Education is fucking expensive and in my opinion the rules are such that minorities have the deck stacked against them quite a bit. And I don't believe Dan understands that.

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Darko, that mindset is common in the oblivious people that have some pie in the sky ideals.

As for bigotry and Dan one example today that bugged me when as soon as an early caller tried to have the gay conversation with him. This guy obviously had a religious view and didn't seem to me anyway to "hate" gays just thought it wasn't right. Dan took the conversation to that weird bible belt hate church he always brings up that protests funerals.

If you expect people to respect or at least not actively thwart gay existence isn't the least you can do is respect that others can believe their religious stuff without actively bothering others?

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That's what I meant toward the end when Terry and Drinky were jumping off the Capt. Bernsie ship.


Yep. I thought Dan was kind of taken aback that he was being left on his own. Good for Terry and Drinky (and I'm not really a fan of either.)


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Darko, that mindset is common in the oblivious people that have some pie in the sky ideals.

As for bigotry and Dan one example today that bugged me when as soon as an early caller tried to have the gay conversation with him. This guy obviously had a religious view and didn't seem to me anyway to "hate" gays just thought it wasn't right. Dan took the conversation to that weird bible belt hate church he always brings up that protests funerals.

If you expect people to respect or at least not actively thwart gay existence isn't the least you can do is respect that others can believe their religious stuff without actively bothering others?


Well, he got mad because the guy kept calling it a "choice", but I agree danny was predisposed to blasting the guy as soon as he mentioned he was religious and read the Bible.

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If Jason Collins is a hockey player his coming out of the closet gets a segment at most on today's show.

Also, in what way is Dan a bigot? I need to know so that I can properly calibrate my hatred settings.

Dan notoriously berates people who are religious or have beliefs based in religon.
I myself am not religious, but it irkes me. I don't know why.
I guess intolerance is intolerance no matter who the subject is.

Also, Dan is completely oblivious, in my opinion, to life outside his cute little upper middle class whitebread existence. The "JUST MOVE" litany is a case in point. Lots of people can't "just move". Lots of people can't "just get a better job". Education is fucking expensive and in my opinion the rules are such that minorities have the deck stacked against them quite a bit. And I don't believe Dan understands that.


I do not mind at all that Dan doesn't tolerate other people's intolerance. The "just move" idiocy, that's some of the stupidest shit he's ever said and he still goes back to that well. Awful.

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Darko, that mindset is common in the oblivious people that have some pie in the sky ideals.

As for bigotry and Dan one example today that bugged me when as soon as an early caller tried to have the gay conversation with him. This guy obviously had a religious view and didn't seem to me anyway to "hate" gays just thought it wasn't right. Dan took the conversation to that weird bible belt hate church he always brings up that protests funerals.

If you expect people to respect or at least not actively thwart gay existence isn't the least you can do is respect that others can believe their religious stuff without actively bothering others?


That's a good point. For Dan to automatically equate a person who disagrees with gay marriage to a hate mongering group of religious zealots was a really broad swipe of the brush.

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Darko, that mindset is common in the oblivious people that have some pie in the sky ideals.

As for bigotry and Dan one example today that bugged me when as soon as an early caller tried to have the gay conversation with him. This guy obviously had a religious view and didn't seem to me anyway to "hate" gays just thought it wasn't right. Dan took the conversation to that weird bible belt hate church he always brings up that protests funerals.

If you expect people to respect or at least not actively thwart gay existence isn't the least you can do is respect that others can believe their religious stuff without actively bothering others?


Well, he got mad because the guy kept calling it a "choice", but I agree danny was predisposed to blasting the guy as soon as he mentioned he was religious and read the Bible.


That's fine I really don't care but he really does not have any tolerance for any opinion but his no matter what the subject or issue is.

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Also, Dan is completely oblivious, in my opinion, to life outside his cute little upper middle class whitebread existence. The "JUST MOVE" litany is a case in point. Lots of people can't "just move". Lots of people can't "just get a better job". Education is fucking expensive and in my opinion the rules are such that minorities have the deck stacked against them quite a bit. And I don't believe Dan understands that.


this reminds me that i need to write a short/story where everyone in the word is a rapper/stand-up-comedian/veritable-alchemist.

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I do not mind at all that Dan doesn't tolerate other people's intolerance. The "just move" idiocy, that's some of the stupidest shit he's ever said and he still goes back to that well. Awful.

I disagree with things that Dan finds intolerant.
Todays last caller was saying that he is not rude to gays, doesn't berate them, doesn't treat them poorly, does not hurt anyone, he just said that it does not fit his personal belief model. I do not agree. But I understand.
The man was not "intolerant". He simply did not agree with homosexuality.
It's possible to not approve of a behavior and still not be intolerant.

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I do not mind at all that Dan doesn't tolerate other people's intolerance. The "just move" idiocy, that's some of the stupidest shit he's ever said and he still goes back to that well. Awful.

I disagree with things that Dan finds intolerant.
Todays last caller was saying that he is not rude to gays, doesn't berate them, doesn't treat them poorly, does not hurt anyone, he just said that it does not fit his personal belief model. I do not agree. But I understand.
The man was not "intolerant". He simply did not agree with homosexuality.
It's possible to not approve of a behavior and still not be intolerant.


Yeah and that was when Matty kind of took him to the woodshed.

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I do not understand their stance on Nate Robinson. Dan is using the +/- stat as evidence that Nate isn't very good, but he should know that +/- is a team stat. It's like the "Win" in baseball that he constantly looks down upon. They say he shoots them out of the game 4 times out of 5. What?

He has the highest efficiency rating on the team and Noah is nearly a full point behind (19.02 vs.18.08). He's shooting 39% from 3 and a lot of those are off the dribble rather than spotting up. He's shooting over 50% during the playoffs from downtown. Plus they've been asking for a shot creator and he can do that. You're getting all of this for the vet minimum. If for some reason you believe that the Bulls need more defenders then maybe I could understand not wanting him back next year. But if they don't think he has value as a reserve on a team lacking offensive firepower, they clearly don't know the League nearly as well as they think they do.


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Yeah and that was when Matty kind of took him to the woodshed.

Yeah, and a big hear hear for Matty.
Danny needs to be questioned when he gets into this self rightious behavior because it is goddamn unlistenable radio.
IMPORTANT RADIO is freakin hard to listen to. And he comes off as an ass.
I say this as someone who believes, firmly, that this is the best show on sports radio.
But that last hour (all I caught) was PAINFUL.

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Yeah and that was when Matty kind of took him to the woodshed.

Yeah, and a big hear hear for Matty.
Danny needs to be questioned when he gets into this self rightious behavior because it is goddamn unlistenable radio.
IMPORTANT RADIO is freakin hard to listen to. And he comes off as an ass.
I say this as someone who believes, firmly, that this is the best show on sports radio.
But that last hour (all I caught) was PAINFUL.


Agreed on the kudos for Matty.

He is too often a willing participant in Dan's idiocy, but when he steps out and challenges Dan he should be commended.

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I do not mind at all that Dan doesn't tolerate other people's intolerance. The "just move" idiocy, that's some of the stupidest shit he's ever said and he still goes back to that well. Awful.

I disagree with things that Dan finds intolerant.
Todays last caller was saying that he is not rude to gays, doesn't berate them, doesn't treat them poorly, does not hurt anyone, he just said that it does not fit his personal belief model. I do not agree. But I understand.
The man was not "intolerant". He simply did not agree with homosexuality.
It's possible to not approve of a behavior and still not be intolerant.


I suppose that's fair. Swap gays with religious people and you've got me pegged. And now I may have to give this show a deeper listen when it gets podcasted.

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Swap gays with religious people.

I sure would, every day of the week and three times on Sunday (god willing). :lol:

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Swap gays with religious people.

I sure would, every day of the week and three times on Sunday (god willing). :lol:

Oh, stop it...

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