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Post subject: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:51 am

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Amazing that if you have the guts to say that based on your religious beliefs you disagree with homosexuality you become some sort of pariah. I guess that whole tolerance thing is good for the goose but not so much for the gander. ESPN was wrong for calling him out. He's raised a legitimate issue for many people in and out of professional sports that now serves as the 800 lb. elephant in the room.

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In a segment on Monday about NBA player Jason Collins’ coming out, EPSN analyst Chris Broussard said that as a Christian he does not “agree with homosexuality” and implied that by coming out as gay, Collins is “walking in open rebellion to God and Jesus Christ.”
Broussard has come under fire for that comment, made on the network’s one-hour special episode of Outside the Lines, which focused on Collins’ essay in Sports Illustrated where he announced he is gay, becoming the first openly gay male major American professional sports player.
Broussard said on the segment that “true tolerance and acceptance is being able to… not criticize each other and call each other names,” before launching into his personal beliefs about homosexuality.

“If you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, then the Bible says ‘you know them by their fruits,’ it says that that’s a sin,” said Broussard. “And if you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality — adultery, fornication, pre-marital sex between heterosexuals — whatever it may be, I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and Jesus Christ, so I would not characterize that person as a Christian.”

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:53 am

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:54 am

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Just another reason to dislike Chris Broussard.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:54 am

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That's what I'm talking about.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:54 am

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He has his beliefs and he articulated them in a way that encourages discussion and minimizes hostility. I don't personally agree with him, but wasn't angry watching him speak yesterday.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:55 am

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I think a lot of the critics of Broussard would say he's being a hypocrite by picking and choosing which sin constitutes walking in open rebellion of God.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:56 am

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:00 am

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And he's not a homophobe.

He isn't afraid of gay people.

He doesn't believe in how they live their life.

I disagree but like NSD said, he isn't being belligerent. He's stating his opinion.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:02 am

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

I think a lot of the critics of Broussard would say he's being a hypocrite by picking and choosing which sin constitutes walking in open rebellion of God.

But he actually listed other sins that constitute open rebellion

I have no issue with what he said.

At what point are we kinda stomping on people's religious freedoms?

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:04 am

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Chris Broussard: arbiter of who is a Christian or not.

What a jackass.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:05 am

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

I think a lot of the critics of Broussard would say he's being a hypocrite by picking and choosing which sin constitutes walking in open rebellion of God.

I agree. I'm a believer and I also sin. My sin is no less sinful than that of a gay person. I have no room to judge anyone.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:05 am

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Hatchetman wrote:

Chris Broussard: arbiter of who is a Christian or not.

What a jackass.

Should he lie about what he feels?

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:06 am

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The KKK defended white supremacy through their interpretation of Christian ideology.

I guess we better forgive and forget with them, too, huh?

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

I think a lot of the critics of Broussard would say he's being a hypocrite by picking and choosing which sin constitutes walking in open rebellion of God.

But he actually listed other sins that constitute open rebellion

I have no issue with what he said.

At what point are we kinda stomping on people's religious freedoms?

But unless he's making statements when players are caught cheating or living with their girlfriends, he should probably keep this to himself. Christians aren't supposed to pick and choose which sins they think are great or small. Some do....but they aren't supposed to.

Also, Christians are supposed to leave it up to Christ on who is and is not a Christian. But....again......that doesn't seem to happen so much these days...

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:07 am

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Yeah, Ill agree with that Ivan. But he's not choosing sins. At least on the surface he's listing other ones. But he should go after every guy who cheats on his wife etc

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:08 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

The KKK defended white supremacy through their interpretation of Christian ideology.

I guess we better forgive and forget with them, too, huh?

Just a bit of a jump there.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:08 am

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

I think a lot of the critics of Broussard would say he's being a hypocrite by picking and choosing which sin constitutes walking in open rebellion of God.

I agree. I'm a believer and I also sin. My sin is no less sinful than that of a gay person. I have no room to judge anyone.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:09 am

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Krazy Ivan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

I think a lot of the critics of Broussard would say he's being a hypocrite by picking and choosing which sin constitutes walking in open rebellion of God.

But he actually listed other sins that constitute open rebellion

I have no issue with what he said.

At what point are we kinda stomping on people's religious freedoms?

But unless he's making statements when players are caught cheating or living with their girlfriends, he should probably keep this to himself.

Exactly. He only feels the need to pipe up on this single issue.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:11 am

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Krazy Ivan wrote:

Perfectly stated.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:13 am

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Krazy Ivan wrote:

Perfectly stated.

My biggest struggle with the Church. We've allowd hatred and judging to be disguised as love, somehow...

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:14 am

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Northside_Dan wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

The KKK defended white supremacy through their interpretation of Christian ideology.

I guess we better forgive and forget with them, too, huh?

Just a bit of a jump there.

How so? Religion has historically been used to defend a lot of awful things. Hiding under the umbrella of religious freedom doesn't mean one's bigotry should be "tolerated."

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:15 am

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The majority of people are only religious when it is convenient for them.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

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Tall Midget wrote:

Hiding under the umbrella of religious freedom doesn't mean one's bigotry should be "tolerated."

Very true...

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:18 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

How so? Religion has historically been used to defend a lot of awful things. Hiding under the umbrella of religious freedom doesn't mean one's bigotry should be "tolerated."

Again. Big leap. He's not acting with hatred or even persecuting Jason...at least in the context of the ESPN clip. He was asked a question and responded that he didn't agree to it for his various religious high horse reasons. Saying that what he did is somehow a microcosm or correlates to the KKK is a sensationalist leap.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

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Krazy Ivan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

I think a lot of the critics of Broussard would say he's being a hypocrite by picking and choosing which sin constitutes walking in open rebellion of God.

But he actually listed other sins that constitute open rebellion

I have no issue with what he said.

At what point are we kinda stomping on people's religious freedoms?

Well said.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

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Krazy Ivan wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Hiding under the umbrella of religious freedom doesn't mean one's bigotry should be "tolerated."

Very true...

I agree with your agreement.

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:21 am

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Saying someone is not a Christian could be highly offensive (I don't know if the BB guy considers himself a Christian or not).

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:22 am

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Hatchetman wrote:

Saying someone is not a Christian could be highly offensive (I don't know if the BB guy considers himself a Christian or not).

What if that other person spells his name "Kristian"?

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Post subject: Re: Chris Broussard

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:26 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

Northside_Dan wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

The KKK defended white supremacy through their interpretation of Christian ideology.

I guess we better forgive and forget with them, too, huh?

Just a bit of a jump there.

How so? Religion has historically been used to defend a lot of awful things. Hiding under the umbrella of religious freedom doesn't mean one's bigotry should be "tolerated."

I think it's a bit more complex than that. The KKK doesn't hide under umbrella of religious freedom. Like the Crusades, they talk shit to justify their means, but they are both torturers and murderers. Broussard is just stating his opinion and for all we know, he's a hypocrite, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, he has the right to express his opinion.

As a journalist he should have made it less personal and simply said that Collins may have some issues with those who believe homosexuality conflicts with their religious beliefs.

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