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I agree with you about Bernstein, but that's also what's made him so wrong-headed. His righteous indignation prevents him from seeing how reckless his supposed "defense" has been, which is not really a defense but more an attack on anyone who disagrees with his allegedly scientifically proven assertion about homosexuality. (And the disagreement is mostly intellectual with regard to homosexuality being biological; the disagreement is not about ethics, as in treating gays equally, a proposition we can all obviously agree on)

In the course of the past three days, he's assumed the positions of an infallible scientist, Christian preacher, enlightened secularist, and postmodern moralist- all at once. The arrogance is astounding, and that's saying a lot for someone like Bernstein.

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Yes. This. All of this.

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I have to be honest... This statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But perhaps I'm missing something. Are you saying that (he thinks) his so-called Progressivism regarding social issues gives him a pass regarding economic issues? If so, he is not necessarily a Neoliberal... He is Jewish.

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I don't think many sports fans, or sports talk radio listeners, really care about this topic. It is just another example of Danny taking a hard line stance on a subject, directing his producers to screen in polarizing calls, then putting on his "show". I don't think he realizes that his "show" is getting tiresome to many of his core audience. I, for one, am tuning in less and less. And from what I can gather, so are many on this board. The ratings will eventually show this....right?

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In my case I don't know if that's true, but maybe that's because I read the board. As soon as I see people here talking about how terrible the day's show is I turn on the radio. As much as I hate the ESPN "embrace debate" style that Dan's been trafficking in, it's always gets me to tune in. I should know better than to listen to his bullshit but I can't help myself from wanting to know what kind of stupid shit Dan is going to say next so I can come here and discuss it with you fine folks. I think it's safe to assume I'm not the only one who does this.

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Haven't had a chance to read through all the theads recentlly, but did I hear this correctly? Dan Bernstein crying on the air when talking about the Jason Collins story in the 4-5 PM hour on Monday? I could be wrong, but did others hear that?

You're not wrong. It absolutely happened.

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I wonder if Monday afternoon's abrupt ending had anything to do with what you're saying here. If I remember correctly, Matt asked them to hurry through the credits, they said quick goodbyes, and then Holmes got right into his show without the usual MNF-style intros. I don't think it was an issue of time because it was around 6:00 p.m. Holmes mentioned something about knowing how everyone wants to talk about the draft, and then he got right into a conversation with Arkush and Bowen not more than 45 seconds into the show.

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Surprised I wasn't yet


But here's something a little odd....the other response saying thank you was gone?

Why would that be?

I doubt it considering we got a similar dose of Monday's show today.

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Let's see either of you do Very Important Big Boy Radio Of Stories That Must Be Told and not get choked up.

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I'd love to see Boers face when Bernstein started tearing up

What happened? Bernstein was crying for gays on the air today?

I 100% understood his emotion over the Sandy Hook shootings. It involved kids; that cuts to the core. But his crying Monday...get the fuck outta here. How the hell was he surprised that these kinds of people are still out there? Homophobes? Not in my city! They're all in the Champaign/Hardcore American South!!!

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Yesterday.

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I cry for black people when Bernstein discusses them like they're animals. Do you guys like me now?

No.

Or yes.

I don't know anymore.

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I didn't understand the emotion either.

Homophobes suck, but like others have said, gays in America enjoy much more acceptance than just a decade ago, a time in which DB's crying would have been perhaps a bit more warranted. Nowadays you've got several PSAs about gays, including an effective one that discourages the derogative use of the word "gay," all kinds of popular sitcoms normalizing LGBT culture, the White House publicly praising Collins, LGBT clubs in schools and college campuses, and so on. I'm not homosexual, but I presume the environment is a lot less toxic for the LGBT community than it ever was, despite the persistent presence of committed haters here and there.

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
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I don't get a lot going on this show recently....

1) Boers has become a defender of sabermetrics recently? When did this happen? I just heard some of the Monday show and you would have never guessed that just a few months ago, he refused to have a conversation with Bernstein about some of the new numbers. I'm not sure who it sounds worse for, Hawk's "arguements" or sabermetrics when Boers is arguing for it.

2) Jackie Robinson is close to Jason Collins in historical comparison? What? I don't think much else needs to be said on such on a ridiculous position. They are both the 1st...that's it. Jackie Robinson went throughfar worse.

3) You're a bigot if you don't believe what Dan Bernstein's thinks. That's not to say the caller's arguements are valid or right.

4) Dan Bernstein crying on the air because some of the callers are bigots in his view?I guess if you're correlating this to Jackie Robinson?

5) They can't have a conversation about the Bears since everything boils down to Emery or Trestman being "weird".

I can go on, but that's just one day (Monday) of pretty bad thoughts.

To #1. I think if you had to spend 5+ hours a day with Dan Bernstein your resolve would eventually wear down.

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Glad I missed the blubbering. I'm in one of my hiatuses from the show. Every few months I get sick of the repeated plots, retreaded arguments, and rehashed diatribes. I disconnect for a few weeks, run a coffee enema through my mind, and listen to some podcasts or music.

I like Beardown when he's on point dissecting the inner workings of the Score, not when he's playing Alex Jones on the board.

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Exactly. Terry gave up debating with Berns a few years ago. Boers doesn't really believe half the things he says, but he just goes along with it. He doesn't want to challenge Dan at all. This show has become garbage & it continues to get worse. Actually, 9:00 to 6:00 on The Score is garbage. Like I have said for a few years, B&B need to be broken up & paired with new partners. They are both better when they are apart. Same goes for Mac when the Candyman is out.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

That reads like a direct WYC of bernstein. "All that matters is how he plays". Uh, I guess until something else matters. Jason Collins: bad at basketball.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I understand that being gay in high school likely sucks, but high school sucks for a lot of people. Straight kids consider suicide too. In 1999, a kid from our high school came out of the closet with an article he published in the school paper. To the best of my knowledge, no one really did anything to him beforehand or afterwards. I'm sure some people didn't like him, but people didn't like me either and there were plenty of people I didn't like. High school is just a whole lot of stupid people disliking each other for stupid reasons.

After high school, I doubt it is that hard to be gay. There are a ton of places that are accepting of just about anyone. Pick any major city and not only are there gay villages(actual name for them) but also plenty of places that are so progressive that no one cares what you are doing.

I think there is a bit of forced martyrdom going on here. Yeah, religious idiots will judge them for no good reason besides "the bible tells them to" but they'd judge me harshly too for some of my actions. That's what it is somewhat offensive with the Jackie Robinson comparisons. Yes, there is a slight correlation because he's the first, but that is it.

The funny thing is that Bernstein spent a long time saying that a gay player would be no big deal because all lockerrooms already have gay players and no one cares. However, when Bernstein can fly his "cause flag" and get kudos from worshipers for making them proud they are listening to a radio show that does important things Bernstein laps it up like he's a hero.

I can't wait until the next time they use gay humor in a condescending way to help continue stereotypes though! Let's run some TB Diddler's commercials and mock the gay lifestyle!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

How about the open with the drunks outside the Cubs game: "YEAH, BUT THIS GUY IS GAY!"

This is what happens when you try to mix Very Important Radio with a Sports/Comedy show. Your entire life becomes a Who Ya Crappin'?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

And he's still holding strong on using the word RETARD, isnt he?

I completely forgot in all of this how much he has said this.

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Elections have consequences.

well, at least now I'm not the only one who heard them say this.

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