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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:56 am 
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I thought Mac lost all of the books to B&B following the switch to the new rating system.

You mean the one where results are based on actual listeners, not what someone writes in a book? :lol: :lol:

Why do all the radio guys who's ratings plummeted always blame PPM?

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His salary was chump change compared to the difference in ad revenues after he left.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:05 am 
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He killed B+B every book.

I don't think that is true. They were always close, and I think he did lose the last couple books he had with ESPN, which led to them making a decision on not bringing him back.

Nope. He destroyed them and his being let go was a financial decsion

Sources say that no specific incident precipitated WMVP’s decision not to pick up the option on the final year of McNeil’s contract, reportedly worth more than $600,000 annually, but the cumulative effect of past run-ins, self-inflicted controversy and suspensions may have played a role.


I thought Mac lost all of the books to B&B following the switch to the new rating system.


There is some truth to this, if I remember correctly. Didn't lose all of them, but did lose more than he won...

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:08 am 
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Tall Midget wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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He killed B+B every book.

I don't think that is true. They were always close, and I think he did lose the last couple books he had with ESPN, which led to them making a decision on not bringing him back.

Nope. He destroyed them and his being let go was a financial decsion

Sources say that no specific incident precipitated WMVP’s decision not to pick up the option on the final year of McNeil’s contract, reportedly worth more than $600,000 annually, but the cumulative effect of past run-ins, self-inflicted controversy and suspensions may have played a role.


I thought Mac lost all of the books to B&B following the switch to the new rating system.

I dont think so.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:09 am 
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Douchebag wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
I thought Mac lost all of the books to B&B following the switch to the new rating system.

You mean the one where results are based on actual listeners, not what someone writes in a book? :lol: :lol:

Why do all the radio guys who's ratings plummeted always blame PPM?

Dont be smug. He destroyed them for years. And the book ratings would have favored the SCORE for being around longer than ESPN


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I thought Mac lost all of the books to B&B following the switch to the new rating system.

I dont think so.

I'm pretty sure they battled back and forth, and were mostly pretty much even.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:12 am 
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Douchebag wrote:
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I thought Mac lost all of the books to B&B following the switch to the new rating system.

I dont think so.

I'm pretty sure they battled back and forth, and were mostly pretty much even.

Unless you completely dismiss the old school ratings, my point remains.

He ressurected ESPN from nothing and whatever station he's on seems to win.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:14 am 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I thought Mac lost all of the books to B&B following the switch to the new rating system.

I dont think so.

I'm pretty sure they battled back and forth, and were mostly pretty much even.

Unless you completely dismiss the old school ratings, my point remains.

He ressurected ESPN from nothing and whatever station he's on seems to win.

Well right, but the old way ratings were done, were pretty much shown to be wildly inaccurate. People would just write in that they listened to X station between 2:00-6:00. But in actuality, they flipped around a shit-ton. Now these kind of things are actually measured in PPM. It gives a much clearer picture.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:20 am 
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I cant seem to find a date that the switch to PPM was made, but Mac left ESPN right around the same time. Not sure he was on MJH for the PPM ratings and if he was it might have been one summer (White Sox) book


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North said those things were bullshit, so it kind of nullifies the discussion...

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rogers park bryan wrote:
I cant seem to find a date that the switch to PPM was made, but Mac left ESPN right around the same time. Not sure he was on MJH for the PPM ratings and if he was it might have been one summer (White Sox) book


The PPM switch happened in summer 2008.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:28 am 
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Ok, Ill take your guys word that the Score and B and B won. I honestly cant find any links from that specific time other than Sherman writing that sports radio in general was benefiting.

Why the fuck are the ratings so hard to find and non committal? (yeah, but in this demo....)


From what I can gather of Larz last ratings, The Score's best ratings were from 3-7 but Mully and Hanley placed the highest in their time slot.


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Some observations from Dan McNeil circa January 2009:

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* Better point the thumb if I'm pointing the finger. My WMVP-AM (1000) radio show, the ''Mac, Jurko & Harry Afternoon Saloon,'' didn't keep its heavyweight title belt in '08. We were clipped by the talented but boorish ''Boers and Bernstein'' program on rival WSCR in the fall Arbitron afternoon-drive ratings.

A half-dozen times or so over the last several years, the Saloon has been No. 1 among adult men. That happened only once in '08. Anything less is unacceptable. We need to do our jobs ''a whole lot better.''

* * Also on the radio ratings beat, it's nothing shy of embarrassing that ESPN's nationally aired ''Mike and Mike in the Morning'' has become the highest-rated sports radio program in any time slot in Chicago. They do a fine show, but it's best consumed in markets such as Bangor, Maine, or Enid, Okla., or Salem, Ore. In big towns like ours, local sports talk never should lose to a more vanilla national show. Shame on all of us.

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I want Bernsie paired with a gay, black man who was abused as a child and has CTE from unfortunate ballet accident. Then all his fetishes will be contained in his partner.

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Based on what I can ascertain, MJH won a majority of the ratings books against B&B in 2007 and 2008. I think B&B beat MJH in 3 of 8 ratings books over that span. MJH was more dominant prior to 2007.

Overall, ratings for MJH slipped in 2008 and the show was losing traction among its male 25-54 target demographic when Mac was canned in early 2009.

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This "I'm not gonna research the point" standoff between Douchebag and RPB reminds me of the sibling battles over who had to pick up the phone when it rang in my youth.

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This "I'm not gonna research the point" standoff between Douchebag and RPB reminds me of the sibling battles over who had to pick up the phone when it rang in my youth.

That's a terrible analogy and I can prove it.

I choose not to.


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