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Not good last year....not good this year..not good until 2015...what guarantee about 2016/17/18/19 ....I don't see them doing anything under Theo :o

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Definitely needed a thread.

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Not good last year....not good this year..not good until 2015...what guarantee about 2016/17/18/19 ....I don't see them doing anything uder Theo :o

It's kind of funny. Andy MacPhail won championships too at his last gig and came here and nada.
Maybe they need a GM who won 3 World Series.

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Need to try and win next year. One year is understandable, two is pushing it, three is too many

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Not good last year....not good this year..not good until 2015...what guarantee about 2016/17/18/19 ....I don't see them doing anything uder Theo :o

It's kind of funny. Andy MacPhail won championships too at his last gig and came here and nada.
Maybe they need a GM who won 3 World Series.

What they need is the opposite. They need a GM who was an epic failure in his last job. Since the Cubs can't do anything w/ winners (MacFail, Dusty, Lou), maybe they'll do something w/ a loser.


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Need to try and win next year. One year is understandable, two is pushing it, three is too many

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This reasonable. You can only only be in the middle of a rebuilding effort for so many years.

3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Need to try and win next year. One year is understandable, two is pushing it, three is too many

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This reasonable. You can only only be in the middle of a rebuilding effort for so many years.

3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.


I don't think that's gonna happen, but I definitely think Theo may have been bait and switched by Ricketts on how much power he was going to have. For example, word is Epstein wanted Darvish a lot and knew exactly what it was going to take to get him and Joe Ricketts wouldn't let him spend the money. So it isn't baseball decisions, it's money decisions. And that isn't what's been sold to Cubs fans. You guys have every right to be angry.

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3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.


It could be worse.

They could be like the Royals and lose 90+ games 8 of the last 9 years.

In the other year they lost 87.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Need to try and win next year. One year is understandable, two is pushing it, three is too many

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This reasonable. You can only only be in the middle of a rebuilding effort for so many years.

3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.


I don't think that's gonna happen, but I definitely think Theo may have been bait and switched by Ricketts on how much power he was going to have. For example, word is Epstein wanted Darvish a lot and knew exactly what it was going to take to get him and Joe Ricketts wouldn't let him spend the money. So it isn't baseball decisions, it's money decisions. And that isn't what's been sold to Cubs fans. You guys have every right to be angry.


Thanks for your blessing :-)

Attendance is hurting them a lot too. I don't blame them for not predicting it would be this low. Nothing suggested it would.


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While I am not making any excuse for this team, a better bullpen would have resulted in some wins this year and that is a function of spending some money. Not even a ton more, but another $10 mill and you have some proven MLB arms, not these guys they are trying to develop.

This I do expect to be totally different this year.

James Russell is the last guy in a decent bullpen, but he is one of our bests! Thats a problem, but in the meantime

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SomeGuy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Need to try and win next year. One year is understandable, two is pushing it, three is too many

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This reasonable. You can only only be in the middle of a rebuilding effort for so many years.

3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.

Yeah since he got here I've been saying 2014. I just think with the contracts that expired and two years of cleaning up the major league roster you should have enough pieces to be around .500 (which keeps you in the wide card hunt til mid Sept usually)

I don't think its out of the question either.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Need to try and win next year. One year is understandable, two is pushing it, three is too many

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This reasonable. You can only only be in the middle of a rebuilding effort for so many years.

3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.


I don't think that's gonna happen, but I definitely think Theo may have been bait and switched by Ricketts on how much power he was going to have. For example, word is Epstein wanted Darvish a lot and knew exactly what it was going to take to get him and Joe Ricketts wouldn't let him spend the money. So it isn't baseball decisions, it's money decisions. And that isn't what's been sold to Cubs fans. You guys have every right to be angry.


Theo: Fuck they just made a rule against spending crazy on the draft. A whole slotting system. THAT was gonna be our fast track back to contending.

Ricketts (suppressing grin) : Ohh no! That's a shame. It really is.

Theo: Well I guess we can apply those funds to foreign players in free agency

Ricketts:
Ya....Ya...that's a good idea and I'm gonna reakly think about that! Alright I've got hands to shake and pictures to take. Have fun with your computers! (LOL)


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I do feel a little sorry for Cub fans as they were sold this messiah to win. It was in the bag. Made insanely built up by Bernsie and the national media. As Darko said no different than the McF-A-I-L plan is it?

It is baseball nothing is guaranteed.

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Not good last year....not good this year..not good until 2015...what guarantee about 2016/17/18/19 ....I don't see them doing anything uder Theo :o

It's kind of funny. Andy MacPhail won championships too at his last gig and came here and nada.
Maybe they need a GM who won 3 World Series.

What they need is the opposite. They need a GM who was an epic failure in his last job. Since the Cubs can't do anything w/ winners (MacFail, Dusty, Lou), maybe they'll do something w/ a loser.

They tried Quade.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Need to try and win next year. One year is understandable, two is pushing it, three is too many

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This reasonable. You can only only be in the middle of a rebuilding effort for so many years.

3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.


I don't think that's gonna happen, but I definitely think Theo may have been bait and switched by Ricketts on how much power he was going to have. For example, word is Epstein wanted Darvish a lot and knew exactly what it was going to take to get him and Joe Ricketts wouldn't let him spend the money. So it isn't baseball decisions, it's money decisions. And that isn't what's been sold to Cubs fans. You guys have every right to be angry.


Thanks for your blessing :-)

Attendance is hurting them a lot too. I don't blame them for not predicting it would be this low. Nothing suggested it would.


It would have been pretty silly to lose 100 games on purpose and expect attendance to go up. I don't think you need Really Smart People to figure that out.

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What Ricketts has done has given Epstien an opening for no accountablity of winning. If he doesn't win he gets paid and fans lose...who many guys get do what you want and if you don't achieve your goal its okay.....people are comparing the Cubs to the Nats....how many playoffs have the Nats won????

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
What Ricketts has done has given Epstien an opening for no accountablity of winning. If he doesn't win he gets paid and fans lose...who many guys get do what you want and if you don't achieve your goal its okay.....people are comparing the Cubs to the Nats....how many playoffs have the Nats won????

He's been here 1 year and headed 1 draft. Chill broseph.


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I do feel a little sorry for Cub fans .


yeah, I do too...

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3 years in a row of 100 loss seasons is really pushing it.


It could be worse.

They could be like the Royals and lose 90+ games 8 of the last 9 years.

In the other year they lost 87.

They are following the KC plan. Dump salaries and go young in the draft with high picks. They are still waiting.

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It would have been pretty silly to lose 100 games on purpose and expect attendance to go up. I don't think you need Really Smart People to figure that out.


Completely missed my point. I don't think any RSP k we it would DROP this much. Even with 100 losses. Nothing suggested it would. This logic is a big reason poppa Ricketts ok'd the purchase. The stadium was full even during really bad teams.

I'm not a RSP, but common sense would suggest their budget was based off x number of tickets sold, and since they are far below that line, there is less money to spend.


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The Boston victims are offended by this thread title.

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I think it may be only a small factor but the economy also has to factor into the drop in Cubs attendance. Sure people are not happy with team right now but I would guess there are less bus trips, personal vacations etc to visit Wrigley these days regardless of play on the field.

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The Boston victims are offended by this thread title.

They were set of remotely you ignorant fuck :D

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My God,they might be worse than last year. Darwin Barney could not hit in the clutch,just like about 100% of the team. These guys are losers and I can't watch this shit anymore.

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I turned on the game in the 9th with the Cubs down 1 with the winning run on 1st, and it looked like there were 500 fans in the park.

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Gavin Floyd is having Tommy John surgery which means he'll sign with the Cubs next year for way too much money hoping he can be flipped for prospects. So you have that to look forward to. Enjoy.


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I'd like to again mention what a stupid thread topic this is in many ways. However, I couldn't find a more immediate spot to post this little nugget.

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When Ryu came up for bid, the Cubs bid about $15m on posting fee, Rangers $18m; Dodgers crushed others with $25.7m -- plus $36m contract.

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Drop In wrote:
I'd like to again mention what a stupid thread topic this is in many ways. However, I couldn't find a more immediate spot to post this little nugget.

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When Ryu came up for bid, the Cubs bid about $15m on posting fee, Rangers $18m; Dodgers crushed others with $25.7m -- plus $36m contract.


But Theo may have wanted to outbid everyone and wasn't allowed to do so. We don't really know, but I think it's become more than clear that Theo isn't the only one making baseball decisions.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I'd like to again mention what a stupid thread topic this is in many ways. However, I couldn't find a more immediate spot to post this little nugget.

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When Ryu came up for bid, the Cubs bid about $15m on posting fee, Rangers $18m; Dodgers crushed others with $25.7m -- plus $36m contract.


But Theo may have wanted to outbid everyone and wasn't allowed to do so. We don't really know, but I think it's become more than clear that Theo isn't the only one making baseball decisions.


Possible. I won't dispute that point. I'd like to think of my Theo and Jed having a set number they won't move off. While wearing tuxedo t-shirts.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Drop In wrote:
I'd like to again mention what a stupid thread topic this is in many ways. However, I couldn't find a more immediate spot to post this little nugget.

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When Ryu came up for bid, the Cubs bid about $15m on posting fee, Rangers $18m; Dodgers crushed others with $25.7m -- plus $36m contract.


But Theo may have wanted to outbid everyone and wasn't allowed to do so. We don't really know, but I think it's become more than clear that Theo isn't the only one making baseball decisions.


I like to think of it as Tom Ricketts isn't the only one making financial decisions.

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