The guy has been terrific his last few starts. He gave up a couple homers today and still held the Detroit offense down for the most part. 8 innings is what a manager kills for.
Problem is, will he be near this level for the near future, or is it part of his maddening inconsistancy? I would think now's the time to trade him and you could get quite a bit for him, but that's just one man's opinion. Thoughts?

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He's never been more tradeable. Even when he wasn't this hot, he still had a bargain basement deal. Only problem is a limited NTC, which prevents him from going to west coast teams, if I'm not mistaken. He or Garland are going to bring the Sox the best in return value on a trade.

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Will KW do it? He traded for Vazquez; would he see trading him away as a sign of failure? It wouldn't be, but who knows?
Trading Garland would be a mistake unless you're sure you can't resign him after next year. Garland is much more consistant than Vazquez.

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I don't know if it would be viewed as a failure. He traded Garcia, and I don't think anyone considers that deal a failure.

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Good point. I wasn't clear enough on my point about KW and his pride perhaps getting in the way of dealing Vazquez. He dealt Chris Young for Vazquez and Young looks like he may well pan out. Would KW be stubborn and hang onto Vazquez out of pride/fear of being seen as a move that failed?
I don't think it would be a failure either, but GMs seem to be a proud bunch. Dealing Vazquez would be a good move as I see it.

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I would say that he didn't pan out when he was needed most, which was last year and the beginning of this year. THAT'S why they traded for him; to help get them back to the world series. He was awful last year, and he wasn't great at the beginning of this year when they started going in the crapper.
I would unload him if they can get a top tier prospect for him. In past markets, that's what dealing Vasquez would warrant. In today's market, I'm not so sure. If they can't unload him, they will still have an average to above average starter in their rotation at a somewhat reasonable rate.

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If you trade him you are basically trading C.Young for whatever you get in return. Odds are you will not get a better AAA ready player then young. You need pitching to win, he's cheap and a solid number 2 starter.

Trading him would be a mistake!

It's not the first time.

I'm not saying that they should give him away for peanuts, but they should seriously consider trading him now while he's pitching very well, otherwise they run the risk of him pulling a Contreras. The last two or three years, he has been average at best. If Kenny gets a STUD prospect back, then they should move him. If he gets a bunch of lame offers, then they don't lose anything by keeping him and seeing if he can maintain what he's done so far.

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The White Sox could probably get a lot for him as he is locked up to a very reasonable contract (in today's market), and is pitching extremely well.

The problem with trading him is what I just said. On top of that, if you trade him for younger players, can the White Sox really compete in the AL Central in the immediate future with a thin rotation after Buerhle, Garland, and Denks ? (I'm assuming Contreras would be moved at some point as well).

Let's not also forget that 10 players (including Contreras) are under contract for next season at approximately 79 million dollars, which doesn't leave the Sox with a lot of flexibility. Even if they move Contreras, I wouldn't be surprised if they have to pick up a portion of that salary as well, but back to my point that moving one of those pitchers for 2-3 younger players on the verge of the majors would fill holes, and free up money. The negative side would be a starting pitching staff that would have lots of question marks, and probably unable to compete in the AL Central until/if Denks/Masset/Gonzalez, etc. grow up.

0-3 with an ERA over 5.00 in May. That's less than great, but not awful.

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I commend you for putting a lot of thought into this. But I don't think we're on entirely different sides of this one.
I said he wasn't great at the beginning of this year. Not that he was awful. 0-3 with a 5.03 in May when they fell out of contention certainly qualifies as less than great, but looking at your game by game break down, he wasn't awful, either. I have edited my comments in my last post to reflect this.

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Nas, I agree with you, but this is the story of Vazquez's career. He has mind blowing stuff but always seems to do enough to lose. I might dismiss the history if he was younger, but he is 31 now. It's not really a trend.

He is on fire right now. Omar Minaya from the Mets loves him, and they have some good young players to give. If I were KW I would hold out for nothing less than Milledge + a prospect. However, if there is a team with an MLB ready shortstop who can bat leadoff, that would be my priority.

Erick Aybar from LAA. Go get 'em Kenny!

I am kind of resigned to that fate. Bad times on the south side.

The Angels have enough pitching and Vazquez can rescind a trade to the West Coast. If they are willing to give him for someone else, I am all ears.

Vasquez is having one of his best years... I'd much rather keep Vasquez as a #3 starter than trade him. Kenny Williams has made some good trades in the past...but I don't see getting equal value for Vasquez

sure they might be battling for 4th place, but with a rotation that starts with buehrle, garland, vazquez, and danks they could easily be fighting for a playoff spot ths time next year. of course they need better defense and a new bullpen, but im sure you get the jist

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I just got free tickets to Saturday's Sox game...yeah!!!
Won't Vasquez be pitching?

Not to mention the Royals' farm system is loaded, and the Twins are perennially competitive, and at the very least tough to play against. Being in arguably the best division in baseball doesn't make things any easier on Kenny.

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