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Wife's Got Alzheimer's? Divorce her
In another question about marital fidelity, Robertson seemed to surprise both his audience and members of the faith community when he told a viewer it was all right to leave his wife, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.

Robertson said he would not "put a guilt trip" on someone for divorcing a spouse with Alzheimer's, calling the disease "a kind of death."

"I know it sounds cruel, but if he's going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but make sure she has custodial care and somebody looking after her," Robertson recommended.



nice. I'm godless and I think this is immoral. THis guy should never be defended. ever.


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In 2012, Robertson again got into trouble for comments some people construed as misogynistic and Islamaphobic.

When a viewer asked advice for a wife who had threatened him, Robertson advised him to convert to Islam in order to be allowed to physically abuse her.

"I think this man's got to stand up to her, and he can't let her get away with this stuff," Robertson said. "I don't think we condone wife-beating these days, but something's got to be done."

"Well, you could become a Muslim — then you could beat her," Robertson said.


Pat sure does love the ladies. I think Pat is insane. He probably always has been.


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In another question about marital fidelity, Robertson seemed to surprise both his audience and members of the faith community when he told a viewer it was all right to leave his wife, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.

Robertson said he would not "put a guilt trip" on someone for divorcing a spouse with Alzheimer's, calling the disease "a kind of death."

"I know it sounds cruel, but if he's going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but make sure she has custodial care and somebody looking after her," Robertson recommended.



nice. I'm godless and I think this is immoral. THis guy should never be defended. ever.


hey hey hey- he said he should make sure she has somebody looking after her, you're taking that out of context


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What Should I Do About My Abusive Wife? Convert, Then Beat Her
In 2012, Robertson again got into trouble for comments some people construed as misogynistic and Islamaphobic.

When a viewer asked advice for a wife who had threatened him, Robertson advised him to convert to Islam in order to be allowed to physically abuse her.

"I think this man's got to stand up to her, and he can't let her get away with this stuff," Robertson said. "I don't think we condone wife-beating these days, but something's got to be done."

"Well, you could become a Muslim — then you could beat her," Robertson said.


Pat sure does love the ladies. I think Pat is insane. He probably always has been.



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What Should I Do About My Abusive Wife? Convert, Then Beat Her
In 2012, Robertson again got into trouble for comments some people construed as misogynistic and Islamaphobic.

When a viewer asked advice for a wife who had threatened him, Robertson advised him to convert to Islam in order to be allowed to physically abuse her.

"I think this man's got to stand up to her, and he can't let her get away with this stuff," Robertson said. "I don't think we condone wife-beating these days, but something's got to be done."

"Well, you could become a Muslim — then you could beat her," Robertson said.


Pat sure does love the ladies. I think Pat is insane. He probably always has been.
So I guess he hates the movie "The Notebook" too?

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In another question about marital fidelity, Robertson seemed to surprise both his audience and members of the faith community when he told a viewer it was all right to leave his wife, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.

Robertson said he would not "put a guilt trip" on someone for divorcing a spouse with Alzheimer's, calling the disease "a kind of death."

"I know it sounds cruel, but if he's going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but make sure she has custodial care and somebody looking after her," Robertson recommended.



nice. I'm godless and I think this is immoral. THis guy should never be defended. ever.


Mr. B,

First of all, were you actually godless, then you make your own rules about what is moral.

And having set yourself up as the decider of what is right and wrong, then it is more than a tad hypocritical for you to rip Pat Robertson for having done the same thing for himself.

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nice. I'm godless and I think this is immoral.

Isnt the whole point of Atheism that you dont need god or religion to have morals?


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What Should I Do About My Abusive Wife? Convert, Then Beat Her
In 2012, Robertson again got into trouble for comments some people construed as misogynistic and Islamaphobic.

When a viewer asked advice for a wife who had threatened him, Robertson advised him to convert to Islam in order to be allowed to physically abuse her.

"I think this man's got to stand up to her, and he can't let her get away with this stuff," Robertson said. "I don't think we condone wife-beating these days, but something's got to be done."

"Well, you could become a Muslim — then you could beat her," Robertson said.


Pat sure does love the ladies. I think Pat is insane. He probably always has been.

That's actually just a shot at extremist muslims who actually do those things.

No issue there.


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That's actually just a shot at extremist muslims who actually do those things.
I don't think extremist is really needed as a label there. In many places, it's considered acceptable.

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 Post subject: Re: Pat Robertson
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
That's actually just a shot at extremist muslims who actually do those things.
I don't think extremist is really needed as a label there. In many places, it's considered acceptable.

I convert to Islam every time I get home from work and dinner isn't on the table.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
That's actually just a shot at extremist muslims who actually do those things.
I don't think extremist is really needed as a label there. In many places, it's considered acceptable.


Good point. It's not needed becuase it's inaccurate here.

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To save time, because I'm sure someone will eventually get mad that I said it.

http://www.emirates247.com/crime/region/nearly-half-saudi-women-are-beaten-at-home-2013-02-26-1.496510

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To save time, because I'm sure someone will eventually get mad that I said it.

http://www.emirates247.com/crime/region/nearly-half-saudi-women-are-beaten-at-home-2013-02-26-1.496510



Look on the bright side.

If they are caught being baptized, they could be executed.

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In another question about marital fidelity, Robertson seemed to surprise both his audience and members of the faith community when he told a viewer it was all right to leave his wife, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.

Robertson said he would not "put a guilt trip" on someone for divorcing a spouse with Alzheimer's, calling the disease "a kind of death."

"I know it sounds cruel, but if he's going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but make sure she has custodial care and somebody looking after her," Robertson recommended.



nice. I'm godless and I think this is immoral. THis guy should never be defended. ever.


hey hey hey- he said he should make sure she has somebody looking after her, you're taking that out of context


If you haven't watched an entire episode of the 700 Club, then who are you to speak about this?

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Let's not turn this into a thing.

I consider the ones that beat their wives extreme and I do so, because I dont want to lump in the ones who dont.

My opinion on what extreme is. I dont care if it meets anyone esle's definition.


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Let's not turn this into a thing.

I consider the ones that beat their wives extreme and I do so, because I dont want to lump in the ones who dont.

My opinion on what extreme is. I dont care if it meets anyone esle's definition.


Your definition of extreme is yours. It's just not the definition of extreme.

here is the definition of extreme: of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average:


1-3% is probably extreme.

Almost half is average. Ergo...

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Your definition of extreme is yours. It's just not the definition of extreme.

here is the definition of extreme: of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average:


1-3% is probably extreme.

Almost half is average. Ergo...


Not sure what you're trying to say here. Domestic abuse transcends religion, culture, and ethnicity. Here are some statistics on domestic abuse cases in the U. S: http://dvrc-or.org/domestic/violence/resources/C61/

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Let's not turn this into a thing.

I consider the ones that beat their wives extreme and I do so, because I dont want to lump in the ones who dont.

My opinion on what extreme is. I dont care if it meets anyone esle's definition.


Your definition of extreme is yours. It's just not the definition of extreme.

here is the definition of extreme: of a character or kind farthest removed from the ordinary or average:


1-3% is probably extreme.

Almost half is average. Ergo...

Extremist Muslim is a definition unto itself and its not beholden to the actual definition of extreme.


Anyway, we are all very aware that almost half of muslims beat their wives, so everyone who wanted that info posted should be happy.





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Let's not turn this into a thing.

I consider the ones that beat their wives extreme and I do so, because I dont want to lump in the ones who dont.

My opinion on what extreme is. I dont care if it meets anyone esle's definition.
Fair enough. Do you think that 50% of Saudi Arabians are extremist Muslims?

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I'm confused.


Probably should have read the entire thread.... :?

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Let's not turn this into a thing.

I consider the ones that beat their wives extreme and I do so, because I dont want to lump in the ones who dont.

My opinion on what extreme is. I dont care if it meets anyone esle's definition.
Fair enough. Do you think that 50% of Saudi Arabians are extremist Muslims?

Im not sure about Saudi Arabaians and how many are muslim but like I wrote up there, I dont think Extremist Muslim is a technical definition thing.

Its a term to describe Insane Muslims without calling them insane.


I understand there are a lot of them.


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Im not sure about Saudi Arabaians and how many are muslim but like I wrote up there, I dont think Extremist Muslim is a technical definition thing.

Its a term to describe Insane Muslims without calling them insane.


I understand there are a lot of them.


That's quite a stretch. Like I said above, domestic abuse transcends religion, culture, and ethnicity. Not sure what religion has to do with it here since domestic abuse is a global issue impacting women of all races, creeds, and nationalities. A Baptist wife-beater or a Jewish wife-beater are not called Christian or Jewish extremists, they're just called spousal abusers. Why not be consistent when it comes to Muslims.

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Im not sure about Saudi Arabaians and how many are muslim but like I wrote up there, I dont think Extremist Muslim is a technical definition thing.

Its a term to describe Insane Muslims without calling them insane.


I understand there are a lot of them.


That's quite a stretch. Like I said above, domestic abuse transcends religion, culture, and ethnicity. Not sure what religion has to do with it here since domestic abuse is a global issue impacting women of all races, creeds, and nationalities. A Baptist wife-beater or a Jewish wife-beater are not called Christian or Jewish extremists, they're just called spousal abusers. Why not be consistent when it comes to Muslims.

Probably because their religions dont say its ok.

And what of what I wrote is a stretch?


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Probably because their religions dont say its ok.

And what of what I wrote is a stretch?



The reckless claim that there are a lot of "insane Muslims," whatever that means, is a stretch. And, no, domestic abuse is not a tenant of faith in any religion. It's not a religious issue. The irreligious, religious, atheists, and many others all engage in domestic abuse. It's a global problem.

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Probably because their religions dont say its ok.

And what of what I wrote is a stretch?



The reckless claim that there are a lot of "insane Muslims," whatever that means, is a stretch. And, no, domestic abuse is not a tenant of faith in any religion. It's not a religious issue. The irreligious, religious, atheists, and many others all engage in domestic abuse. It's a global problem.

Beating your wife = Insanity

Look, Im the one saying their extreme.


Are you saying that people of Islamic faith and the Islamic texts are clear cut against beating women?

Because that would be news to me and Id like to hear about it.

I hear a lot of stories about women getting stoned for GETTING raped and stuff like that.

Is that not true?


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Let's not turn this into a thing.

I consider the ones that beat their wives extreme and I do so, because I dont want to lump in the ones who dont.

My opinion on what extreme is. I dont care if it meets anyone esle's definition.
Fair enough. Do you think that 50% of Saudi Arabians are extremist Muslims?


I would defer to Chas on that. He is our resident expert on those filthy Muslims.

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Question:

My wife made me chicken fettuccine alfredo last night when I specifically asked for spaghetti and meatballs.

What is my Pat Robertson-approved course of action?

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^makes sense to me...

I disagree with the whole premise.

If a problem is a global problem, but its more concentrated in one area or one group, should we pretend its equal everywhere?

I think that's dishonest and putting your head in the sand


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That's actually just a shot at extremist muslims who actually do those things.
I don't think extremist is really needed as a label there. In many places, it's considered acceptable.

I convert to Islam every time I get home from work and dinner isn't on the table.


Violence Against Women Linked To Burned Pot Roasts

GAINESVILLE, FL—A study released Monday by researchers at the University of Florida indicates a strong link between domestic violence against women and burned pot roasts.

"After five years of research, we have found a direct causal link between overcooked, poorly prepared dinners and spousal abuse," Florida sociology professor and study head Dr. Patrick Redmond said.

Study data was gathered from interviews, police records, and first-hand observations conducted between 5 and 8 p.m., the hours during which a majority of American men come home from a long, hard day at work and expect a hot meal to be waiting for them on the table.

According to one 42-year-old male study participant, abuse in his home occurs most frequently "when I sit down at the table, and I gotta eat a goddamn black roast because the broad was yapping on the phone with her mother's hospice unit nurse again."

In addition to unsatisfactorily prepared meals, the study found that a number of other factors were linked to domestic violence, including: always nagging about getting the roof fixed, blocking the TV when the big game is on, and repeatedly demanding to know exactly what goes on at that bar all day and night.

While domestic violence is widespread, Redmond said there are steps women can take to protect themselves.

"Based on interviews we conducted with more than 1,000 abusive men, women can significantly reduce safety risks by quickly responding to requests of 'Get me another beer,' and making sure that the beer is cold, in addition to making sure that non-burned pot roasts are served hot and in a timely fashion," said Gregory Ormond of the New York-based Family Crisis Center.

"Further," Ormond added, "a majority of the wife batterers we spoke to indicated that it wouldn't hurt if their spouses took a little effort to make themselves appear more attractive once in a while."

Interviews with abusive men also indicated that women who "let themselves go" and "balloon up" shortly after the first few years of marriage are 20 percent more likely to get pasted right in their fat faces, Redmond said.

In addition to interviews, the Florida researchers conducted a wide range of laboratory experiments involving women who live with abusive partners. Among the experiments' findings: When the smell of burned pot roast is combined with the simulated sound of a station wagon pulling into a driveway, 43 percent of the women were observed to burst into tears instantaneously.

Upon learning of the study, American Women's Health Council president Marsha Hauge expressed hope that its findings will spark a reduction in future incidents of domestic abuse.

"Education is the key," Hauge said. "Women need to know there are places to go for help. It isn't easy to make good, tender pot roast, or even, in some cases, turkey casserole." Hauge noted that AWHC plans to offer free classes across the country dealing with proper meat preparation.

"Spousal abuse can be prevented," Redmond said. "Our research shows that all these men are asking for is a little peace and quiet, and a hot meal each night. Is that too much to ask?"


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