Villanueva starts the 6th, not the Rule 5 guy. Camp would have been DFA'd and therefore never in the game and Russell would have faced more than 1 batter.

Rule 5 pickup from Cleveland.

That wasn't Dale's finest hour. I'm not second guessing, right when he brought in Rondon I said it was bad. This kid came in the other day with a 8-0 lead, and gave up a couple in the 9th. Then you bring in Camp with the bases loaded, when he should have been the one sent out, not Bowden. I really don't think Bowden is good, but he pitching way better than Camp. You can't continue to blow games when you get good starting pitching. Of course you want more than 5 innings from Garza, but for the first start in the majors in 10 months, you take it.

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See? Kid's got Moxie.

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Yes I double switch RF. Svuem doesn't make roster moves but he does control who pitches and Camp is really really bad this year. I was shocked he pitched well last year so clearly his balloon has burst.

Svuem has just never shown an aptitude to manage pitchers esp. the bullpen and his overall ability as a strategist iw well below average as well.

Just not a fan.

At all.

So bringing in Russell for 1 batter in the 6th is good managing?

Reading is a skill.

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So after acknowledging Russell is one of only 2 "good" relief pitchers Svuem has, you agree that only giving him 1 batter and then bringing in Shawn Camp was the right move??

Sandberg will be a great manager in Philly, svuem is garbage.

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Can't agree. I would have had Villanueva start the 6th, not Hector "Rule 5" Rondon. And no way in Hell do I bring in Shawn "Home Run" Camp with the game on the line and especially pulling Russell for him.

Svuem should be back in MILW as hitting coach.

Ricketts clearly had (and has) something against Sandberg.

To bad. I agree and think he will be an excellent manager in the big leagues.

IMU laying out the truth tonight. Nice work.

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Chill out dude. Just trying to have some dialogue on a Chicago Sports Message Board. Cleary Jed/Theo did not do their jobs in fortifying the bullpen and it shows but Svuem IMO just doesn't get it. It's not based on 1 game but since Game 1 last year. Just not a fan of the guy. At all. And I've seen nothing to dissuade me from this opinion.

I remember the talk when he was hired that he was this hard ass and wouldn't take any shit. OK, so he's a tough guy. Big fucking deal. I'd prefer a strategist who understands the nuances of mananging a big league ballclub and can maximize each player's abilities and put them in positions to succeed.

So far I see none of that with this guy.

I wish I would.

"Laying out the truth"?? And that would be???

He clearly laid out the truth regarding tonights game and Sveum's performance. There are reasons to be concerned about him as a manager, but tonights game is not one of them.

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Theo needs to cut this rule 5 shit or get a better scout. Rondon has sucked this year. Lendy Castillo has been as bad as bad can be in.......wait for it.......Low A ball.

The only good rule 5 pick theo has made was for Miguel Gonzalez whom he got from the Angels and promptly blew his UCL in spring training, sat for a year and then eventually went to the Orioles where he is pretty damn decent.

As far as this shit bullpen goes they need to start getting people gone and giving anyone on the waiver wire a shot. Rondon, Camp and Marmol need to go away.

He is a lefty that is killing right handed hitters.....Zach Rosscup is absolutely dealing in relief for AA. He has gone 1/3 to 3 entire innings and has been excellent. I would probably also add Negrin from Iowa. I think Bowden cleared waivers. I would bring him back after shit canning Camp unless someone else tolerable was on waivers.

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I agree. I don't know if Ricketts won't eat Camps 1M salary or what the deal is there. Rondon may be decent someday but he hasn't shown it yet. And lately he's been getting rocked.

I think Negrin in more of a long man but he can pitch from what I've read. Rosscup hopefully continues to develop because clearly they need another lefty.

They sure got rid of alot of lefties last years but in fairness none have emerged elsewhere: Maine, Belliveu, etc.

They did claim Eduardo Sanchez from the Cardinals and put him on the 40 man and assigned him to Iowa. He has control issues though but worth a flier I guess.

Clearly.

Ryno should be the Cubs Manager. But Dale Sveum had 14 games under his belt as a MLB Manager.

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A no brainer:

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2013/5/2 ... mlb-scores

Pirates 5, Cubs 4:
Bullpen Mismanagement
By Al Yellon on May 22 2013, 8:00a  @bleedcubbieblue +

Could the Cubs have won Tuesday night's game with better relief work? Yes, and part of that is on manager Dale Sveum's choices.

I'll never criticize Matt Garza again.

Wait, that's not true. Of course I will, if Garza does anything on the baseball field worth criticizing. But Tuesday night in Pittsburgh, Garza did everything right. Pitching? Check. Five innings, 82 pitches, one single and three walks allowed. Fielding? Check. Made a nice play on a ground ball moving away from him and took the play himself. Hitting? Check. Garza, a notoriously poor hitter, smashed a two-run double into right-center field. Garza was awesome. I hope every single one of his starts is like that one.

What I am going to criticize is Dale Sveum's bullpen management, which was atrociously bad Tuesday night.
Let's think about this for a moment. Garza's return meant that Carlos Villanueva shifted to the bullpen. Carlos Villanueva, who has been stretched out to start multiple innings, going at least five innings in all eight of his starts. Carlos Villanueva, whose turn it would have been to start Tuesday night if Garza hadn't been ready.

So, Dale, why wasn't Carlos Villanueva in the game after Garza? If you're going to take Garza out after 82 pitches -- and although Garza was cruising and probably could have gone one more inning, I don't have a huge quibble with removing him after five -- why wasn't the one guy who can be an effective long reliever on your staff in the game? Villanueva could have gone two innings, likely without incident, and the Cubs, who had a 3-0 lead going into the sixth, might have won the game.

Instead, we got Hector Rondon, who had trouble throwing strikes, an ineffective James Russell (who walked the only man he faced; yet another issue with Sveum -- he uses Russell as a LOOGY), and Shawn Camp, who gave up a pinch-hit grand slam to Travis Snider that provided the eventual margin of victory in a 5-4 Pirates win that dropped the Cubs' record in one-run games to 6-11.

Many of us were wondering why Camp was kept on the roster instead of Michael Bowden. We're still wondering.
Credit to Carlos Marmol and Kevin Gregg for keeping the game close. The Cubs managed to score a run off Pirates closer Jason Grilli, who hadn't allowed even a baserunner in his previous six appearances, but that provided just moral victory, rather than actual victory. Me, I'd rather have the latter.

In addition to Garza, the offensive star of the game for the Cubs was Darwin Barney, who went 4-for-4 with an RBI and two runs scored. Barney's now hitting .223/.316/.379; the .690 OPS is still too low, although it's now higher than his .653 from 2012 and his current OPS+ is 90, getting back toward league average. Get that OPS over .700 and with Barney's defense, he's still a valuable player.

Another winnable game down the drain, this time because of bad bullpen management. Beyond using the wrong pitcher(s) to relieve Garza, Sveum wound up having to use three relievers in the sixth inning and two more after that. What if the Cubs tie the game up and go into extra innings? Sure, Villanueva's still there, and he can go multiple innings. But after the parade of relievers between the sixth and eighth innings Tuesday night, it would have been just Villanueva and Kyuji Fujikawa for however many extra innings there were.

The two teams will go at it again Wednesday night, weather permitting.

I realize that the bullpen is what it is right now in terms of who it consists of but Swaimer's persistence to use people in the same roles regardless of failure is irritating. Can he go with Villenueva, Russell and Gregg every night?? Of course not. However he could have last night. In games with a close lead and 4 innings to finish he should use Villenueva for 2 or 3 if he is getting outs and then Russell or just Gregg to finish it. In games that are blowouts one way or the other then mix the other guys in and in games that are close but they are still losing use Marmol more. You don't put 2 of your shittiest pitchers in a game with a 3 run lead and the entire pen available.....coming of a god damn off day.

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What really gets me is the team has been playing better and then you get an idiot like Svuem fucking shit up with poor bullpen management. Look at what Terry Francona is doing in Cleveland (and yea they may fade again) but it just shows the difference in the results when you get a real manager vs. a fucking hitting coach pretending to be a manager.

This is your one Al Yellon post of the season. Any more and we're voting you off the island.

Didn't make a lot of sense to use Villaneuva for an inning. Sveum should've stuck with Russell for the remainder of the sixth. However (comma) we're talking about a 72 win team that may now win only 71 because of one managerial decision in a meaningless game. Perspective, people.

Wasn't aware of the Al Yellon hate?...

He's not as bad as some, but he struggles with putting down his glass of Cubs kool-aid.

I don't read him much but agreed with his sentiments on last night's game.

Camp to the DL with a toe issue he's had since Sunday. So why was he pitching yesterday in such an important spot?

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What is the terrible corresponding move?? Bring up Dolis and his awfulness? The guys I want up aren't on the 40 so they aren't coming up.

I don't even know who Sanchez is but he is on the 40 and pitching somewhat better than Dolis.

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