To me it's all about judging people after their careers are over and what they did and not say. Did Ted Williams...Elgin...MJ....Gale....Kareem...Oscar...ever do the Lebron hold the 6 fingers up to indicate how many rings he would get????? Well if he gets 1 or 2 or 3 he under achieved. Oh he's great.... smart no

To me it's all about judging people after their careers are over and what they did and not say. Did Ted Williams...Elgin...MJ....Gale....Kareem...Oscar...ever do the Lebron hold the 6 fingers up to indicate how many rings he would get????? Well if he gets 1 or 2 or 3 he under achieved. Oh he's great.... smart no

Greg Oden said he wanted to win 15 titles. Makes LeBron look country humble.

Oden didn't say that

Wanna bet?

Greg Oden said he wanted to win 15 titles. Makes LeBron look country humble.

The menstrual cycle changes among Hassidic Jewish women was something as well.

I absolutely HATE Frank from Oak Park's manner of speech.....

Probably going to happen tonight.

The menstrual cycle changes among Hassidic Jewish women was something as well.

This is why no matter how these two clowns spin it I'll take Mike as GOAT every time and be quite comfy in my stance. Moreover, you can specimen talk and defend all 5 position shit till you are blue in the face and I am taking Kobe on my team draft before Lebron every time.

Is anybody else pretty sure that Bernstein is adamant when saying Jordan is the GOAT? I've never gotten that impression. I'm pretty sure Boers believes Jordan is, without a doubt.

Dan asks "Do the (L.A) Kings have anyone that's good?"

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

danny prefers LeBron, who he sees as a big goofy kid, to Jordan, who he sees as a reprehensible human being.

The menstrual cycle changes among Hassidic Jewish women was something as well.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

While I agree with B and B on their Lebron stance, it can be hard to value their opinions when Terry says "Tim Duncan is one of the 10 best NBA players of all-time" and Dan asks "Do the (L.A) Kings have anyone that's good?"

Do you think Duncan being top ten is really off base? Here's a recent opinion piece from FOX Sports ranking Duncan as the best PF of all time:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/Top- ... o=30030687

Here's a ESPN fan poll which as Duncan has second best, trailing only Karl Malone:
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9056315

I'm not using these two links to definitively prove Duncan being an all time top ten player, but only to point out that plenty of other NBA fans and professionals think the same way.

I am not familiar with all the great players from the early '90s and prior, but I don't think Duncan as a top 10 all time player is unreasonable.

Boers doesn't have opinions anymore. He has surrendered his will to li'l danny. And bernstein is somewhat torn. He believes LeBron is the best. "DO YOU KNOW HOW TALL HE IS??????????" "LOOK AT HIS BODY!!!!!!! "But he has a hard time squaring LeBron's failure to win as much as the "best ever" should. Thus, the new narrative of "he is doing it alone". danny prefers LeBron, who he sees as a big goofy kid, to Jordan, who he sees as a reprehensible human being.

I heard a call asking them that recently, and BOTH said Jordan was better. Not sure of the date. It's fine to rip them for their opinions, but not fine to just blithely assume them.

I believe you are mistaken. The B&b take is that Jordan's results have been better, thus far. Not that he was a better player. They consistently insist that LeBron is easily the biggest, baddest, and best who ever played.

LeBron is very good on blocking shots from behind and playing passing lanes to get steals. He's probably one of the best all time at chasing down a fast break and blocking a shot from behind. The reason why he has success against shorter guards in the half court is because Miami traps the pick and roll. Once you trap the guard in a corner with two taller players, one of them being Lebron, no one is open and the guard can't pass the ball.

I agree completely with this assessment. Bernstein has been pumping for a long time that He can shut anyone down and that is not the case. George did nothing last night but why wasn't Lebron guarding him the entire series. Maybe it would not have gone seven games if he had. Why didn't he guard Dirk when Dallas won if he is such a great defender. He also did not check Durant last year. I just have a problem when they make statements that they cannot back up. I would not call Lebron James a weak defender but my point to them was that there are much better on the ball defenders than he is. He is a good help defender but I base my assessment on an ability to defend one on one without any help. It is not reading passing lanes. Defenders like Shumpert Tony Allen Avery Bradley are much better defenders than Lebron James. He is not a great on the ball defender. Their assessment was based on him guarding Derrick Rose for a few possessions and as Terry stated to me "those were key possessions though". Paul George guarded Lebron James for the entirety of that series (without help) that is what you base such assessments on.

LeBron has guarded taller players, but David West has been killing him in this series. If you believe in LeBron's mythic defensive prowess you probably also believe that such prowess keeps him from ever committing a foul. LeBron is not necessarily a shut down defender. He can be beat on the offensive end by players with the right set of skills, specifically fast guys who can shoot or big physical guys who can back him down and score over him.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

No doubt Duncan is an all-time great, but I think it does become slightly ridiculous if you start making a list of all-time greats and you actually get to ten guys and find there really isn't room for him.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I think that not only is Duncan one of the greatest ten players of all time I believe that he is the greatest player of his era.

He can be the greatest of his era without being a top ten all-time guy. There are at least five great centers who were better. Then there are Jordan and LeBron and Robertson and Magic. How could he possibly make the top ten?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Duncan is similar to Jerry Lucas.

Most people classify him as a four. I did not see Oscar Robertson play. Tim Duncan was decidedly the best player on a team that won 4 championships. Which five centers would you put in front of him? When you say Lebron James he ran to play with one top five guy and one top ten guy to get a ring. Could he have won with Avery Johnson and Bruce Bowen starting? Those were the type of guys James ran away from in Cleveland.