I was just thinking about this one the way to work.

On it's face, it does appear to be nothing different than taking fingerprints.

If you delve deeper, the ramifications are much greater.

We are like children in Eden with some of the technology available to us.

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Its over. Its ALL over. Cancel America

This is beyond terrible. What are these conservative (liberal one too) judges thinking? This will be abused and expanded in ways we can't even think of right now. Sad day for America. Sad day for freedom.

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Agree. I kept debating with myself if this is the same as fingerprints, and it seems much more intrusive. I don't like the verdict. Charge the person with a crime and get a court order. Then draw blood. It's not like they have Lance Armstrong like money to get a transfusion. Their blood will still be there.

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yeah, this is pretty fucked up.

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This should be a big fucking deal. I believe I read about this last night and was instantly pissed. I know a lot of people may believe it is harmless but they couldn't be further from the truth. More black and brown men will have their lives destroyed by this. Also when the technology is there many "Lee Harvey Oswald's" of the world will be wrongly framed and convicted. In less than 20 years minor traffic violations and other misdemeanors will require you to give up your DNA. Of course human error will never come into play.

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Let me know when Texas takes the DNA of a corporation.

Yes, it should be, but its not.


Nobody cares. I guess that's why the Patriot Act went thru so easily

Most people in this country want to be controlled by the government.

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Co Worker just now: DNA should be mandatory. Doesnt affect the non criminals.

Nas, I see both sides of this, but I am strongly with you. I have a big Libertarian bent, and I don't trust the government to play by the rules. I am sick of secret courts, warrant less wire taps, extracting information from telecommunications firms, unaccountable drone strikes, Gitmo, "enhanced" interrogation techniques (torture), and all the other crap that goes on in the name of safety and National Security. I also hate the crony capitalism that RPB has railed against in other threads.

Our country likes to hold itself out as a defender of freedom, but it seems like we're hypocrites. I don't trust the police to administer justice fairly, and that's why we have courts to get warrants including the drawing of blood. The Supreme Court surprised me on this one.

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Typical. And I have heard people say it's ok to torture terror suspects. I thought we stood for freedom, the rule of law, fair punishment, innocent until proven guilty, etc, etc.

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When it's convenient

As an aside, I was pleasantly surprised that the vote didn't go along perceived "Party" lines. Good to see a couple judges showing an ability to go with what they believe is right, and not along what the public sees a "conservative" or "liberal" judge should be doing.

In the mean time they will catch a few criminals and convince more people that this is a great thing. We have zero privacy and at this point we shouldn't expect to get any.

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They're wrong though. It seems like many of these justices don't live in the real world. IIRC they ruled AGAINST something very similar last year and they didn't put any MAJOR crime restrictions on their ruling yesterday. They're basically telling the states to feel free to expand. Congress won't pass any laws to limit the intrusion into our privacy because they will consider it STATES RIGHTS.

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Even taking out the consipiracy stuff this is a major invasion of privacy. What the hell is happening to this country?

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Happened

9/11

Changed everything.

EVERYthing

They're trying to keep you "safe"?

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Family Guy hit the nail on the head with that joke.

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Yes, and that parody is getting waaaaaay too close to reality

The USA has the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world. Many for non-violent drug possession. As long as prisons continue to be big private business, I suspect this will not change.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-1 ... e-day.html

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Who is wrong? Two justices (Scalia and Breyer) jumped their purported left/right leaning ideals and voted the other way. One liberal and one conservative. I didn't think that would happen. That was my point.


Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority's 5-4 decision, in which one liberal justice, Stephen Breyer, concurred. The key to the ruling, Kennedy said, is "reasonableness."

Justice Antonin Scalia wrote an angry dissent for himself and three liberal justices, charging that the decision will lead to an increased use of DNA testing in violation of the Constitution's protection against unreasonable searches.

Chus, our drug policy is a joke. Again, as a Libertarian, I am a live and let live type of guy. We waste so much money fighting a drug war that is long ago lost. All it does is enrich drugs gangs and fuel violence for our neighbors to south.

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Everything should be legal. At the very least weed, coke and heroin.

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We have wasted more than $1 trillion on the war on drugs, which in reality, is a war on people.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Much like gay marriage recognition, drug legalization seems like an unstoppable tide. Several Latin American countries are pushing for a change in U.N. policy. Apparently, there is a global agreement to keep drugs illegal. But our neighbors are getting sick of being trafficking routes for drugs destined for the U.S.

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Marijuana prohibition needs to go away, but decriminalization is being proven to be at best neutral in terms of effectiveness with most of that effectiveness being from social reforms and not legal reforms. You don't have to make crystal meth decriminalized to provide better health services.

If the United States legalized marijuana, kept the rest of the laws the same, and invested in more treatment and counseling services, it would be the best of both worlds.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I hope the writing style is just because this was done 50 years ago. The "evil" piece cracks me up, no pun intended.

SINGLE CONVENTION ON NARCOTIC DRUGS, 1961,
AS AMENDED BY THE 1972 PROTOCOL AMENDING THE
SINGLE CONVENTION ON NARCOTIC DRUGS, 1961
PREAMBLE
The Parties,
Concerned with the health and welfare of mankind,
Recognizing that the medical use of narcotic drugs continues to be indispensable for the relief of pain and suffering and that adequate provision must be made to ensure the availability of narcotic drugs for such purposes,
Recognizing that addiction to narcotic drugs constitutes a serious evil for the individual and is fraught with social and economic danger to mankind,
Conscious of their duty to prevent and combat this evil,
Considering that effective measures against abuse of narcotic drugs require co-ordinated and universal action,
Understanding that such universal action calls for international co-operation guided by the same principles and aimed at common objectives,
Acknowledging the competence of the United Nations in the field of narcotics control and desirous that the international organs concerned should be within the framework of that Organization,
Desiring to conclude a generally acceptable international convention replacing existing treaties on narcotic drugs, limiting such drugs to medical and scientific use, and providing for continuous international co-operation and control for the achievement of such aims and objectives,
Hereby agree as follows:

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Yeah. Kentucky is a real shit hole...

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