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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:42 am 
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veganfan21 wrote:
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No not THE MAN, A MAN

Many saw the Bulls as wet behind the ears kids and now they were getting a playoff tested MAN


I also think you went a little overboard in your assessment of John Paxson as a player. He was a fine starting guard.


I thought about that too. I think that's just my frustration. I wanted him to aim high during those years, but the talk was he thought his beloved core (Deng-Hinrich-Gordon-Wallace/Chandler) could truly do some damage in the East. I was never a believer and resented him for what I thought was a failing blueprint.

I completely understand.


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Bosh isn't on a hot streak presently, to be kind, but in a vacuum there's no comparison between the two. The Toronto Bosh demolishes any version of Boozer. Even with three weird years in Miami, I bet a 28 year old former 22 and 11 guy has more trade value than Boozer.

He probably does, but the Toronto Bosh is irrelevant when discussing the value Bosh has brought to the Heat. The idea of Bosh being in a 3 year slump is funny though. :lol:


Even if Bosh has been...inconsistent, what's there to argue with when his team hasn't missed the Finals since Riley brought them all together? That's the truth of the matter. For all the Heat's faults and whatever, there's no disputing their three year run of dominance. Bosh is a part of that, as well.



The difference in Toronto and Miami is that in the former they ran the offense through him, in Miami he is at best the second option. Factor in not having a true PG to set up the two man game and his production is going to suffer. The LBJ fans cry he has to do it all, yet even if Bosh starts going 80% from the field how many touches/looks is LBJ going to give up to keep feeding him?

I'd take Bosh over Boozer in a heartbeat. Carlos has numbers but not when they matter, he isn't that clutch "And 1" player who has an impact on either end of the floor in the final 5 minutes. At least with Bosh, I know I can get something from at least one end of the floor.

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I'd take over Bosh for one reason: height.

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The difference in Toronto and Miami is that in the former they ran the offense through him, in Miami he is at best the second option. Factor in not having a true PG to set up the two man game and his production is going to suffer. The LBJ fans cry he has to do it all, yet even if Bosh starts going 80% from the field how many touches/looks is LBJ going to give up to keep feeding him?

I'd take Bosh over Boozer in a heartbeat. Carlos has numbers but not when they matter, he isn't that clutch "And 1" player who has an impact on either end of the floor in the final 5 minutes. At least with Bosh, I know I can get something from at least one end of the floor.


Agreed. To put it differently, I'd rather have Bosh standing around on call than Boozer. If he's simply a underutilized luxury, I'm fine with that. He's still young enough to be somewhat useful down the road if Wade's deterioration continues.

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