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Seems like pop culture been on a huge zombie kick over the last 5 - 8 years. Between all the movies, tv shows and other random zombie stuff it seems like there is still no end in sight. I couldn't care less or be less interested in the zombie stuff. Am I the only one? I guess I just don't get the appeal at all.


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I think zombies now fill another slot on the wheel of creatures along with werewolves, vampires, and aliens. 2004's remake of Dawn of The Dead was an awesome movie. Read the World War Z book and it is interesting. Max Brooks has been interviewed and said only the title is the same. That brings my expectations of the movie way down, just hope they get The Battle Of Yonkers scene right and I'll be happy.

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However I am interested in Zombie Dust. Outstanding.


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yeah it's been way past novel and into groan inducing. however, i thought "warm bodies" was an interesting "twist".

my favorite zombie movies: "night of the living dead", "dawn of the dead", "shaun of the dead", "zombie", "return of the living dead", and "re-animator".

(i don't consider the "28 days" later movies zombie movies; they're virus movies)

i hated DOTD 2004 when it came out; but after giving it a few other viewings, i liked it a little better. i still wish they would've called it something else though.


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Not big on Zombies. I always preferred Vampires & Werewolves (pre-Twilight).


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I miss the mult "Zombie Spmack"....I believe he was created because I had a job for 6 months in 2010 that didn't allow me to post during the day.

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I'm sick of them. And I'm big fan of the Undead in any form that they may wish to take. I kind of prefer skeletons, reanimated corpses and stitched monstrosities to shambling zombies.

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Seems like pop culture been on a huge zombie kick over the last 5 - 8 years. Between all the movies, tv shows and other random zombie stuff it seems like there is still no end in sight. I couldn't care less or be less interested in the zombie stuff. Am I the only one? I guess I just don't get the appeal at all.


Completely with you. Not necessarily a good sign for you. :D

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I'm sick of them. And I'm big fan of the Undead in any form that they may wish to take. I kind of prefer skeletons, reanimated corpses and stitched monstrosities to shambling zombies.

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I'm a big fan. Although I hate the super fast zombies, so I probably won't like world war z.

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Shaun of the Dead was most excellent. After that I stopped paying attention.

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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
Seems like pop culture been on a huge zombie kick over the last 5 - 8 years. Between all the movies, tv shows and other random zombie stuff it seems like there is still no end in sight. I couldn't care less or be less interested in the zombie stuff. Am I the only one? I guess I just don't get the appeal at all.

I believe I read an article that equated heightened clamor for zombie-ism with a failing economy.

Let me look for it. . .

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March 10, 2013 3:34 PM

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Zombies seem to be everywhere these days.

In the popular TV series “The Walking Dead,” humans struggle to escape from a pack of zombies hungry for flesh. Prank alerts have warned of a zombie apocalypse on radio stations in a handful of states. And across the country, zombie wannabes in tattered clothes occasionally fill local parks, gurgling moans of the undead.

Are these just unhealthy obsessions with death and decay? To Clemson University professor Sarah Lauro, the phenomenon isn’t harmful or a random fad, but part of a historical trend that mirrors a level of cultural dissatisfaction and economic upheaval.

Lauro, who teaches English at Clemson, studied zombies while working on her doctoral degree at the University of California at Davis. Lauro said she keeps track of zombie movies, TV shows and video games, but her research focuses primarily on the concept of the “zombie walk,” a mass gathering of people who, dressed in the clothes and makeup of the undead, stagger about and dance.

It’s a fascination that, for Lauro, a self-described “chicken,” seems unnatural. Disinterested in violent movies or games, Lauro said she finds herself now taking part in both in an attempt to further understand what makes zombie-lovers tick.

“I hate violence,” she said. “I can’t stand gore. So it’s a labor, but I do it.”

The zombie mob originated in 2003 in Toronto, Lauro said, and popularity escalated dramatically in the United States in 2005, alongside a rise in dissatisfaction with the war in Iraq.

“It was a way that the population was getting to exercise the fact that they felt like they hadn’t been listened to by the Bush administration,” Lauro said. “Nobody really wanted that war, and yet we were going to war anyway.”

The mid- to late 2000s also saw an uptick in overall zombie popularity, perhaps prompted in part by the release of post-apocalyptic movies including “Dawn of the Dead” and “28 Days Later.”

As of last year, Lauro said, zombie walks had been documented in 20 countries. The largest gathering drew more than 4,000 participants at the New Jersey Zombie Walk in Asbury Park, N.J., in October 2010, according to the Guinness World Records.

“We are more interested in the zombie at times when as a culture we feel disempowered,” Lauro said. “And the facts are there that, when we are experiencing economic crises, the vast population is feeling disempowered. … Either playing dead themselves … or watching a show like ‘Walking Dead’ provides a great variety of outlets for people.”

But, Lauro pointed out, the display of dissatisfaction isn’t always a conscious expression of that feeling of frustration.

“If you were to ask the participants, I don’t think that all of them are very cognizant of what they’re saying when they put on the zombie makeup and participate,” she said. “To me, it’s such an obvious allegory. We feel like, in one way, we’re dead.”

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Yep.

Zombie movies/attacking aliens were a regular theme during the Nixon years as well. It's a shared societal psychological phenomenon. The zombies are us.

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One my favorite Zombie movies.

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Yep.

Zombie movies/attacking aliens were a regular theme during the Nixon years as well. It's a shared societal psychological phenomenon. The zombies are us.


alien invasion movies were more of a product of the mccarthy era, late 50's-60's. "night of the living dead" echoed civil rights unrest and social unrest.

i tend to think these are fabricated. monster movies were popular in the early 30's with dracula, frankenstein, and the wolfman. did they have something to do with the great depression? what did "king kong" have relevance to in that era? that was far more of an economic deluge than what we live in now.

it also doesn't explain why vampires and werewolves are still popular. vampires are still portrayed in sexual way, which has nothing to do with any of that.

most popular horror movies are either remakes or movies about haunted houses and "paranormal activity". in the 80's, it was slasher movies. whatever sells is what's going to sell.


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Why would you buy the rights to World War Z and barely have it have anything to do with the book? Now if someone actually wants to do a movie on the book they're out of luck.


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King Kong was relevant because white people were afraid large black men were going to steal their blonde bitches.


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Yep.

Zombie movies/attacking aliens were a regular theme during the Nixon years as well. It's a shared societal psychological phenomenon. The zombies are us.


alien invasion movies were more of a product of the mccarthy era, late 50's-60's. "night of the living dead" echoed civil rights unrest and social unrest.

i tend to think these are fabricated. monster movies were popular in the early 30's with dracula, frankenstein, and the wolfman. did they have something to do with the great depression? what did "king kong" have relevance to in that era? that was far more of an economic deluge than what we live in now.

it also doesn't explain why vampires and werewolves are still popular. vampires are still portrayed in sexual way, which has nothing to do with any of that.

most popular horror movies are either remakes or movies about haunted houses and "paranormal activity". in the 80's, it was slasher movies. whatever sells is what's going to sell.


We have an entirely different type of vampire today. There has been a gradual but steady pussification of the vampire since Nosferatu. I blame the major shift of today's vampire on Ann Rice.

The slasher movies of the early 80s could easily be chalked up as the adults response to the sexual freedoms of the previous decade.

I don't think the psychology should be entirely discounted.

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Yep.

Zombie movies/attacking aliens were a regular theme during the Nixon years as well. It's a shared societal psychological phenomenon. The zombies are us.


alien invasion movies were more of a product of the mccarthy era, late 50's-60's. "night of the living dead" echoed civil rights unrest and social unrest.

i tend to think these are fabricated. monster movies were popular in the early 30's with dracula, frankenstein, and the wolfman. did they have something to do with the great depression? what did "king kong" have relevance to in that era? that was far more of an economic deluge than what we live in now.

it also doesn't explain why vampires and werewolves are still popular. vampires are still portrayed in sexual way, which has nothing to do with any of that.

most popular horror movies are either remakes or movies about haunted houses and "paranormal activity". in the 80's, it was slasher movies. whatever sells is what's going to sell.


We have an entirely different type of vampire today. There has been a gradual but steady pussification of the vampire since Nosferatu. I blame the major shift of today's vampire on Ann Rice.

The slasher movies of the early 80s could easily be chalked up as the adults response to the sexual freedoms of the previous decade.

I don't think the psychology should be entirely discounted.

Who can we blame for Vampire Weekend?

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good dolphin wrote:
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Yep.

Zombie movies/attacking aliens were a regular theme during the Nixon years as well. It's a shared societal psychological phenomenon. The zombies are us.


alien invasion movies were more of a product of the mccarthy era, late 50's-60's. "night of the living dead" echoed civil rights unrest and social unrest.

i tend to think these are fabricated. monster movies were popular in the early 30's with dracula, frankenstein, and the wolfman. did they have something to do with the great depression? what did "king kong" have relevance to in that era? that was far more of an economic deluge than what we live in now.

it also doesn't explain why vampires and werewolves are still popular. vampires are still portrayed in sexual way, which has nothing to do with any of that.

most popular horror movies are either remakes or movies about haunted houses and "paranormal activity". in the 80's, it was slasher movies. whatever sells is what's going to sell.


We have an entirely different type of vampire today. There has been a gradual but steady pussification of the vampire since Nosferatu. I blame the major shift of today's vampire on Ann Rice.

The slasher movies of the early 80s could easily be chalked up as the adults response to the sexual freedoms of the previous decade.

I don't think the psychology should be entirely discounted.


pussification aside, the vampire has always been a symbol of romantic gothic horror.

the slasher subgenre became increasingly popular in the mid-late 80's with the freddy and jason franchises. were there articles written back then making social statements about why kids were going to see movies about killers? what about the "saw" movies? those permeated the horror market more than zombie movies did in the 2000's, along with remakes. and from what i recall, the zombie thing didn't start taking off until after 2008.

all it says to me is that the general public consumes retreads. that's what "walking dead" is, and that's what "zombieland" was. fun for what they are, but giving them some kind of social significance is way too much credit.


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Why would you buy the rights to World War Z and barely have it have anything to do with the book? Now if someone actually wants to do a movie on the book they're out of luck.


That shit pisses me off.

The book would be perfect for a season or two on HBO. You could even have each episode directed by someone different.

A huge waste.

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Hey, WZ, what is your opinion of Night of the Creeps? It's more comedy than horror. But I've loved it since I was a kid, mostly for Tom Atkins' performance.

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i think "night of the creeps" is one of those underrated 80's horror comedies. fred dekker was the goods. he also did "the monster squad". i don't really consider it a zombie movie though since it's technically an alien invasion...and those little slimy things are just fucking great.


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Those slugs things freaked me out as a kid. They reminded of these intelligent mutant cockroaches in this movie called Bug from the 1970s.

Monster Squad was another favorite of mine.

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