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Mild surprise in Kris Bryant over Gray. Gotta have confidence in their evaluation.

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no thoughts until there's a proper elmhurst $teve thread that's highly relevant to my interests.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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I think it's a safe pick and hopefully the guy sticks at 3B. These MLB drafts are always such a fucking crapshoot that going with a guy with a high floor and still a high ceiling does have logic.

Can't blow the #2 selection so let's hope the guy is real.


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They fixed the college bats and he had like 10 more HRs than the next guy which was like 30 something in 60 something games. Crazy.


Hard to argue with drafting best available.


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He's a big motherfucker too: 6' 5".


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At one private workout with a team, Clint Frazier hit 16 home runs on 24 swings. He's got absolutely massive power. Could be a star.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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Looks like either Baez or Castro will move to 2nd, or Bryant moves to the outfield.

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Eh, hopefully he doesn't suck. At least I heard of his name unlike like that Hayden Simpson debacle that still burns inside.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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It had to be tough to pass on 100 MPH heat but again, you have to trust these guys and their evaluations plus the overall decision making process with Theo et al.

They had to feel Gray had the risk of being a bust whereas Bryant's floor was high.


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Looks like either Baez or Castro will move to 2nd, or Bryant moves to the outfield.


Castro to the outfield. Or to another team.

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Still don't see them trading Castro with how much control they have. 2B or OF seems more likely to me.


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Kris Bryant has been turning home runs into cash for a good portion of his life. Now, on the eve of the MLB Draft, the University of San Diego junior third baseman has a chance to make some real cash.

Considered the best position-player prospect available, he and his five tools are projected to go within the first three or four picks Thursday. His power is brawny enough that he is being advised by Scott Boras. And his personality is so effervescent that you believe any investment in him will be a sound one.

“I'm super-excited,” Bryant was saying the other afternoon during a conversation in the home dugout at USD. “I've worked for this my whole life. It's weird that it's so close.

“I'm really trying to slow everything down. I'm trying to enjoy my time here. I'm excited, it's a good time in my life. And there's no more school.”

He really does use terms like “super-excited.” And he really does have the infectious enthusiasm of an entire class of fourth graders racing outside to begin summer vacation.

His attributes aren't just in his quick-twitch muscles and Louisville Slugger. He is smart, which surely is no small part of the reason his journey has led him to this moment.

The day before we spoke, he weaved his way through three final examinations: marketing, business law and financial management. He finished an English paper that was due.

A couple of key numbers on the Kris Bryant ledger: A 3.35 grade-point average as a finance major, and an NCAA-leading 31 home runs in 62 games this season.

“If I was going to compare him to somebody, he's like a more athletic Troy Glaus,” one scout who watched -- and liked -- Bryant this season says. “Troy could really throw. Bryant can really throw. I think he'll be able to stay at third base. If not, he can play right field.

“He's got huge power. He's a pretty good runner once he's under way. And he hit more home runs than a lot of teams did.”

As for his Home Runs into Cash program, don't worry, USD is squeaky clean here. Rather, that particular money-making venture started in Little League, when Bryant's grandfather was so thrilled over Kris' first home run that he handed the kid $100.

His grandpa continued to dole out $20 for each homer thereafter, until Bryant's freshman year in high school.

“Then I hit a bunch of them and he said, ‘I can't afford this!'” Bryant says, chuckling.

No wonder. When grandpa first reached into his wallet in Little League, Bryant was “a little thing, maybe 4-foot-8.”

He's grown into a big thing, at 6-foot-5, 215 pounds. And his grandparents didn't just reward home runs as he was growing up in Las Vegas: A straight A report card was worth $100, too. He collected there as well.

“I guess I'm good with incentives,” Bryant quips.

Guaranteed, Mr. Boras already has noted that.

His home runs are legendary. There was the one early in the season at home against St. Louis University, when Bryant blasted a rainbow into a misty evening over the left-field light standard that nobody saw land. There was a rocket against the University of San Francisco that is said to have hit a light standard three-quarters of the way up. One scout saw him play against Loyola University two-thirds of the way through the season when Bryant had 20 homers and Loyola's entire team had … zero.

“The thing you always look for is power,” one scout says. “Those bats they use in college now are horrible. They've really cut the numbers down, except for him. And, he doesn't play in altitude or in a small park. His numbers are legit.”

Another key Bryant attribute: He is a patient hitter who refuses to fish outside of the strike zone. He walked 66 times this season, and because of that and how often he was getting pitched around, coach Rich Hill eventually moved him to leadoff hitter. He still wound up with 62 RBI and a 1.313 OPS in those 62 games.

Scouts from all 30 clubs came through San Diego to look at him last fall. The Rockies “are in love with him”, says one, and Baseball America projects that Colorado will take him with the third overall pick. That is, if the Astros (No. 1) or the Cubs (No. 2) don't grab him first.

“When I was 12 years old in Little League, I broke the record for home runs with 19,” Bryant says. “The old record was 18. I realized then that this game, I think I can go pretty far.”

His father, Mike, who spent two seasons in Boston's farm system in the 1980s, recognized the same thing and, along with Kris' mother, Susie, and an uncle, installed a batting cage in the family's backyard when Kris was 5. Bryant still hits in that cage when he goes home for the summer.

He crossed paths with Bryce Harper a couple of times in high school and travel ball, but Kris is a year older and they don't know each other very well. It's been a couple of years since they've talked, Kris says.

He tracks Harper, and he cannot wait until they cross paths again, this time on a major-league field.

Whether that's at third base or right field, hard to say right now.

“Some guys think he's a third baseman,” a scout says. “Some scouts think he could be a Gold Glove right fielder, like Jayson Werth. He's got that kind of body. And he can really throw.”

Says Bryant: “It all comes down to what you think of yourself. I think that I can play third base. I want to play third base.

“If I have those thoughts in my head, I can do it. Third base is more of a premium position. I'd love to stay there.”

Wherever he winds up, one thing is certain: The position he's currently occupying on the eve of the draft? Solid gold.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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Just wanted a college player. Someone closer to being ready than another 18 year old kid.

I know he still starts in the minors, but you do expect him sooner rather than later now.

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So I guess we'd project Baez at SS, Bryant at 3B, and Castro at 2B at this point.

Castro may not be in MLB in 5 years.


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Some draft guy I heard said he could be up in 2 years.

I like the pick. The pitching is going to have to be addressed at some point. Or get some back in the Castro trade.


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Have to give the kid props. During the conference call, he said that he could play in the big leagues now, and bat in the middle of the order.

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I am good with the pick. They took the guy they wanted and not just the position they needed.....though they need someone at 3rd or RF eventually. 30 bombs since the bat rule is no joke. There are definitely some options now for trading guys in exchange for pitching. I think they are shopping Baez, Jackson maybe if anyone is even interested. Vogelbach and Shoulders.

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I am good with the pick. They took the guy they wanted and not just the position they needed.....though they need someone at 3rd or RF eventually. 30 bombs since the bat rule is no joke. There are definitely some options now for trading guys in exchange for pitching. I think they are shopping Baez, Jackson maybe if anyone is even interested. Vogelbach and Shoulders.


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They have 39 more picks. I think they're going to draft a pitcher or two.


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I am good with the pick. They took the guy they wanted and not just the position they needed.....though they need someone at 3rd or RF eventually. 30 bombs since the bat rule is no joke. There are definitely some options now for trading guys in exchange for pitching. I think they are shopping Baez, Jackson maybe if anyone is even interested. Vogelbach and Shoulders.


This is my response to "WHAT ABOUT PITCHING" texts and calls.

Also, they need pitching depth. Its not a one pick fix. They'll load up


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I am good with this pick. As long it was Bryant or one of the top 2 pitchers I was going to be fine. Have the Cubs said anything about whether he is going to be at 3B or does he project in the OF?

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I am good with this pick. As long it was Bryant or one of the top 2 pitchers I was going to be fine. Have the Cubs said anything about whether he is going to be at 3B or does he project in the OF?

He projects as a World Series MVP (Troy Glaus) and the greatest K. Bryant in the history of sports


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I think they comped him to Glaus and Holliday

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RFDC wrote:
I am good with this pick. As long it was Bryant or one of the top 2 pitchers I was going to be fine. Have the Cubs said anything about whether he is going to be at 3B or does he project in the OF?

He projects as a World Series MVP (Troy Glaus) and the greatest K. Bryant in the history of sports


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I think they comped him to Glaus and Holliday


RPB said Glaus, and he'll be the greatest K. Bryant in the history of sports. We don't need K. Bryant on holliday. Bad things happen. I went a long way for that bit.

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Seems like a major reach for #41.

WTF??


Bruce Miles ‏@BruceMiles2112 3m Mizzou LHP Rob Zastryzny to #Cubs with 41st pick overall.

John Arguello ‏@CubsDen 3m Not crazy about this pick. Good control guy but, stuff is so-so.

And Kerry Wood can go away too.


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If these reports that Zastryzny has been pitching in the mid 90s hold, this is a heckuva pick. He was ranked based on high 80s velocity.

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The latest in a long line of talented Missouri pitchers, Zastryzny has a good feel for the craft of pitching. His fastball typically sits in the upper-80s, but Zastryzny has the ability to add and subtract velocity as necessary. His fastball velocity typically ranges from 86 mph to 94 mph. Zastryzny, a left-hander, uses his height – he's listed at 6-foot-3 – to create a downhill angle for his fastball, which has late action. Zastryzny also throws a changeup and slider. He commands his whole arsenal well and all three of his pitches have the chance to be at least Major League-average offerings.

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RFDC wrote:
I am good with this pick. As long it was Bryant or one of the top 2 pitchers I was going to be fine. Have the Cubs said anything about whether he is going to be at 3B or does he project in the OF?

He projects as a World Series MVP (Troy Glaus) and the greatest K. Bryant in the history of sports


no, no, no...a MORE athletic Troy Glaus

It will not be long until he is being touted to start at 3B in 2014.

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