It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:50 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68612
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
I too enjoy Dewskie.

He just got a little heated and is most likely drunk.

That's the only reason anyone would blow up at a fine upstanding person like Peroia Matthew.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 22704
pizza_Place: A few...
Drop In wrote:
Chicago sports typically blow.


Fuck everything !!!! Chicago teams have a bad few years and you assholes want any excuse to burn it down. Go root for the saskatchewan roughriders.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
THE DOUBT, DEWSKIE

THE DOUBT MUST BE DEALT WITH!!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:52 pm
Posts: 12559
Location: Ex-Naperville, Ex-Homewood, Now Tinley Park
pizza_Place: Oh I'm sorry but, there's no one on the line
Dewskie wrote:
No matter who the Bears dealt Gabe to they weren't getting shit in return. The Bears were bent over a barrel and got the bare minimum in return for a guy that was probably going to get cut anyway.

That being said I don't see what the harm would've been in keeping him around for a year, even as a body.


I think that you got anything for him was a bit of a coup -- there must have been some concern that there would be a market for him, as hard as that is to believe. A 6th round pick isn't much, but it is better than nothing which is what you would have received.

I think the harm in keeping him is that you know he isn't any good, and he's using a roster spot that you could have evaluated some other player in. Maybe this guarantees a little extra breathing room for Jordan Mills.

_________________
"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:06 pm
Posts: 2202
Location: Champaign, IL
pizza_Place: Palermo's 95th
I am a little drunk yes.

_________________
Quote:
When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:06 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Dewskie wrote:
I am a little drunk yes.

We...we know.

Its ok


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 57241
Terry's Peeps wrote:
RFDC borrowed Dewskie's login.

No I wouldn't tell anyone to root for the Rams no matter how drunk I was

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
bigfan wrote:
Once again, same scouts are still here that drafted Kyle Long!


Posting this for you again, since you seem to ignore it:


bucky chris wrote:

the current Director of College Scouting Marty Barrett (16 years with the Bears) is in his first year in the role. Previously, he was an area scout for the West. I doubt he had much influence on drafting Carimi, as Wisconsin wouldn't be in his territory. The Midwest area scout that likely was responsible for the initial grades on Carimi, is Jeff Shiver (been with the Bears for 26 years). He is now the Asst Director of College, but his focus is pretty much the Big Ten. I doubt he had Oregon.



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:43 pm
Posts: 20537
pizza_Place: Joes Pizza
Bucky Chris wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Once again, same scouts are still here that drafted Kyle Long!


Posting this for you again, since you seem to ignore it:


bucky chris wrote:

the current Director of College Scouting Marty Barrett (16 years with the Bears) is in his first year in the role. Previously, he was an area scout for the West. I doubt he had much influence on drafting Carimi, as Wisconsin wouldn't be in his territory. The Midwest area scout that likely was responsible for the initial grades on Carimi, is Jeff Shiver (been with the Bears for 26 years). He is now the Asst Director of College, but his focus is pretty much the Big Ten. I doubt he had Oregon.


Sooooo...like Biggie said. They are still here.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
Kirkwood wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Once again, same scouts are still here that drafted Kyle Long!


Posting this for you again, since you seem to ignore it:


bucky chris wrote:

the current Director of College Scouting Marty Barrett (16 years with the Bears) is in his first year in the role. Previously, he was an area scout for the West. I doubt he had much influence on drafting Carimi, as Wisconsin wouldn't be in his territory. The Midwest area scout that likely was responsible for the initial grades on Carimi, is Jeff Shiver (been with the Bears for 26 years). He is now the Asst Director of College, but his focus is pretty much the Big Ten. I doubt he had Oregon.


Sooooo...like Biggie said. They are still here.



Yea, they are here. If his point is simply that the scouts were employed, he is correct. I'm acting under the assumption he is implying they had their hands in both picks.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:05 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
FavreFan wrote:
Still better than your last trade with Tampa
It might be, it could be, it is!

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:16 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:43 pm
Posts: 20537
pizza_Place: Joes Pizza
Bucky Chris wrote:
Yea, they are here. If his point is simply that the scouts were employed, he is correct. I'm acting under the assumption he is implying they had their hands in both picks.

It's hard to decipher what Biggie is getting at sometimes. I think he's questioning why they are still employed given the Bears drafts the past 5-7 years. Could be totally wrong though.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:23 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79560
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
Peoria Matt wrote:
I would say 1 Super Bowl title in the last 28 years would be reason enough "to burn the fucking thing down". But I guess I should give the Bears what, a 30 year margin for error? Or 40? I'll gladly wear the "asshole" tag on this one. Sorry if I expect too much.


Just give the Bears the same leeway you give the Cubs! :lol:

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:32 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
Kirkwood wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
Yea, they are here. If his point is simply that the scouts were employed, he is correct. I'm acting under the assumption he is implying they had their hands in both picks.

It's hard to decipher what Biggie is getting at sometimes. I think he's questioning why they are still employed given the Bears drafts the past 5-7 years. Could be totally wrong though.


It's fair to question their specific recruiting history. But you'd have to take the west coast area scout and see what players turned out that he scouted, and do the same with the Big Ten guy.

Shiver most certainly scouted Carimi, but now focuses on the Big Ten (didn't scout Long). Barrett, who is now in charge of college scouting (likely strongly involved on drafting Long), was an area scout for the West when Carimi was scouted.

I'm not defending either of their scouting ability, I haven't taken up the time to see what players came out of their territories. I'm just pointing out the obvious flaws in trying to tie them to both the Carimi and Long picks. Just being in the building doesn't mean anything.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:49 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:19 am
Posts: 23915
pizza_Place: Jimmy's Place
Anyone involved with drafting Carimi should not be in the building.

_________________
Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:18 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:50 pm
Posts: 16078
pizza_Place: Malnati's
That the Bears apparently had no use for Carimi is unfortunately not surprising given Angelo's draft history, but I'm kind of annoyed, assuming they wanted to get rid of him a long time ago, that they didn't try and get more for him. It would seem that dealing a guy after some no-shows at OTAs is a deal done at precisely the wrong time. Again I don't know when they decided to get rid of him, but why not wait a little, float some rhetoric around indicating how the Bears see "big things" for him next year at whatever OL position, support the theory that his mediocre play last year was due to lingering injuries, remind everyone that he's still a young prospect with potential, and then see what you can get for him? I know trade partners won't base their evaluations of Carimi on just what the Bears say about him, but it can't hurt to try to inflate his value.

I know he was never going to yield in a trade anything close to the value of a first round pick, but since you used a first rounder on him, you've got to recoup as much of that value as you can when you deal him as a matter of principle. Dealing him for a sixth rounder seems to indicate that the Bears just wanted him gone, regardless of what they'd get back.

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:19 am
Posts: 23915
pizza_Place: Jimmy's Place
The mentality of football...beat your wife, DUIs, subtance abuse..that's OK, but miss voluntary OTAs? That's going over the line...

_________________
Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82234
FavreFan wrote:
Still better than your last trade with Tampa


Adams was a couple of trades ago. They got that DT who was pretty decent last year.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:39 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82234
Dewskie wrote:
Fuck that. Just another of the many on this board that look for any reason, no matter how mundane, to shit on everything. Angelo was crappy at drafting, this isn't news. Emery's not winning people over but he could still prove out. Unfortunately most of you assholes are trigger happy to just burn the whole fucking thing down when it comes to the Bears.

Just fuck everything. Go root for the Rams or something.


Let them play a few downs before judging them.

Reach on McClellin. 2.5 sacks for a person whose only skill is pass rushing.
Reach on Hardin. Was hurt when drafted and still hurt today. Still hasn't found an NFL field. Still hasn't played one down of safety in his life
Reach on Rodriguez. Red flags for bad behaviour throughout college. He's now two DUIs into his pro career.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:18 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 11485
pizza_Place: Dino's
rogers park bryan wrote:
THE DOUBT, DEWSKIE

THE DOUBT MUST BE DEALT WITH!!!!!


Hey, I watched that episode last night too.

_________________
Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't a crime. It's a loving act between two or more consenting adults.

-Hank Kingsley


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:15 am
Posts: 27591
pizza_Place: nick n vito's
The first thing Emery should have done is fire every scout and replace them all, I don't need to see who drafted what. Region..they grade out poor across the board, every one of them.

_________________
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:18 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 9:33 pm
Posts: 16484
Location: Chicago, Illinois
pizza_Place: Salernos, Oak Park
If I'm not mistaken, there isn't 1 #1 draft pick from Jerry Angelo on the current Bears roster. That's hard to believe & hard to do.

_________________
CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:55 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Matt Forte

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:58 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:19 am
Posts: 23915
pizza_Place: Jimmy's Place
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Matt Forte


What about Matt Forte?

_________________
Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82234
#2

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:54 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am
Posts: 23844
Location: Boofoo Zoo
pizza_Place: Chuck E Cheese
#44 in the 2nd


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:54 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
Guys, I believe Matt Forte was a second rounder. If my memory serves, he was drafted 44th overall.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:10 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Forte was second round, but still the Bears first pick overall of that draft. Their first rounder was gone due to the Cutler trade.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Forte was second round, but still the Bears first pick overall of that draft. Their first rounder was gone due to the Cutler trade.


Change the record books?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gabe Gone???????????
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48803
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Forte was second round, but still the Bears first pick overall of that draft. Their first rounder was gone due to the Cutler trade.


They took Chris Williams in the 1st round that year. They got Cutler the year after that.

2008 was that magical Forte/Ortman year where they blew a playoff shot by losing the last game to a Houston team that was playing for nothing.

_________________
You know me like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: USA and 44 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group