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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:17 am 
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I don't know a thing about Luke Blaize. Could be a new FCW wrestler. However, his info is interesting.

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If these reports that Zastryzny has been pitching in the mid 90s hold, this is a heckuva pick. He was ranked based on high 80s velocity.


If?

Isn't the guy's sole job to cover future players and yet he doesn't have an up to date scouting report on a guy that could have (and did) go in the high second round? Hard worker.

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I am good with this pick. As long it was Bryant or one of the top 2 pitchers I was going to be fine. Have the Cubs said anything about whether he is going to be at 3B or does he project in the OF?

He projects as a World Series MVP (Troy Glaus) and the greatest K. Bryant in the history of sports


no, no, no...a MORE athletic Troy Glaus

It will not be long until he is being touted to start at 3B in 2014.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:04 am 
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by the way, never trust Kris with a K, Jon without an H or Scot with only one T

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Part of the thinking with the 2nd rounder probably is signability; i.e. getting him under slot to free up money for later rounds. Plus it sounds like the guy could be a quick riser if utiliziled out of the bullpen and they certainly need someone besides Russell from the left side.

Again, you gotta trust McLeod et al know what the fuck they are doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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by the way, never trust Kris with a K, Jon without an H or Scot with only one T
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So I guess we'd project Baez at SS, Bryant at 3B, and Castro at 2B at this point.

Castro may not be in MLB in 5 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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Well, the beat guy from San Diego couldn't have said nicer things about Bryant. Choking back tears or something at one point.


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3rd Round: OF Jacob Hannemann, BYU. – A college outfielder is definitely not what you’d be expecting the Cubs to take here at the top of the third round, but this front office is sneaky and surprising. Hannemann was not a top 100 type player, and Baseball America had him all the way down at 214. It sounds like he was not expected to go until the 4th/5th round range. He’s technically just a freshman, despite being 22, because he just got back from a Mormon mission. He’s in school on a football scholarship, which makes you wonder if he might actually be a tough sign, even if he wasn’t projected to go this high. This is a surprise. He’s clearly a great athlete, and he was the Freshman of the Year in the WCC this year, so it’s not like he can’t play ball. The front office said they spent a ton of time on picks two and three in the Draft, so it’s fair to say that they got the guys they wanted in Hannemann and Zastryzny.

Keith Law suggests/speculates on Twitter that the Cubs had to take a couple underslot guys in the second and third rounds to save money to sign Bryant, which I find very hard to believe. Bryant was picked second overall, following an historic college season. In what way would he possibly have leverage to command more than $6.7 million (hell, more than $6 million) when the next slot was a million lower, and there is absolutely no way he’d risk going back to school when he was drafted second by a team willing to give him $6+ million? Don’t just say “Boras” to me, because that’s lazy. We’ll see, but I think Law is mistaken here. Or maybe I’m just hoping he is.

4th Round: RHP Tyler Skulina, Kent State. – A junior righty who transferred from Virginia, Skulina has some upside. A college arm is more what I was expecting from the Cubs in this range in the draft. Here’s what MLB.com says on Skulina: “Skulina played a key role in Kent State’s Cinderella run to the 2012 College World Series and has taken on an even bigger role this spring as the Golden Flashes ace. He relies on his fastball-curveball combination to attack hitters and isn’t afraid to challenge them. Skulina’s fastball sits in the low-90s and runs in on right-handers. His curveball has good break and should be a Major League average offering. He uses his 6-foot-5, 235-pound frame to create a good downhill plane for both pitches. Skulina needs to develop his changeup to reach his potential.” Baseball America actually had Skulina as the 73rd best prospect in the Draft. He struck out 102 batters in 93.2 innings of work this year.

5th Round: RHP Trey Masek, Texas Tech. – An interesting pick here, because Masek has the talent to be a top two round guy. But he’s had some shoulder issues, and there’s some concern about his durability, so he slid. MLB.com, which ranked Masek 67th overall, has this to say: ”Masek had a very strong summer in the Cape Cod League and it was carrying over as Texas Tech’s Saturday starter, though some arm soreness in late March kept him out of action for a spell. Assuming health, the slightly undersized right-hander will show three pretty good pitches. He can run his fastball up to 94 mph, throws a solid curveball and has a good feel for a sinking changeup. His funky delivery adds deception to his stuff, though his command can be inconsistent. He gets high marks for his aggressiveness and poise on the mound. That, plus Masek’s size and injury history, have some thinking his future might be in a big league bullpen.” This is a legit pitching prospect, as exciting as Skulina or Zastrysny. Keith Law ranked him 89th, BP/Perfect Game had him 79th, and BA had him 49th.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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Really like Brett at Bleacher Nation. Good source of information and usually pretty decent thoughts.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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Day 3 has started and the picks are flying.

11. Jordan Hankins C Austin Peay State

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From College Baseball Daily:

"Hankins’s success earned him a variety of awards over his time so far at Austin Peay including 2012 second-team ABCA/Rawlings All-South Region, 2012 first-team All-OVC, 2012 OVC All-Tournament, 2012 All-Region team (Eugene Regional), 2012 Baseball America OVC Preseason Player of the Year, 2011 Louisville Slugger Freshman All-American Team, 2011 Baseball America Freshman All-American Team, 2011 Second-Team All-OVC, and 2011 OVC All-Freshman Team. Debatably, the highest honor Hankins has received was being named to the 2012 Team USA Collegiate National Team.

From a scouting perspective, Hankins is defensively sound, but a gem at the plate. He has a strong bat but an even better eye making him a threat to even the strongest pitchers. His consistency is marked by his lack of strikeouts and extremely high on base percentage. When that consistency is mixed with the power demonstrated by Hankins, an excellent combination is unleashed setting Hankins’s ceiling at the plate very high and also making him one of the Top 100 players to watch for in 2013."


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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sounds like a good report on Hankins

12. Trevor Clifton RHP HS TN, Kentucky commit
13. Trevor Graham RHP Franklin Pierce University

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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Every other pick today seems like it has been a catcher.....its not like they have any besides the guys in the big leagues and stevie ballgame though. Speaking of Stevie Ballgame...He played 3rd in Iowa yesterday with Stewart still riding the bench. They really hate Stewart.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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The Cubs have reached agreement with 12th round pick HS RHP Tevor Clifton. Clifton was reportedly seeking 3rd round money.

This makes the Cubs draft look a little better.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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Trevor Clifton is one of those obnoxiously WASPy names like Conor McNight.

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Trevor Clifton is one of those obnoxiously WASPy names like Conor McNight.

It probably just triggers memories of Chad Clifton. Damn those first round OT draft picks that aren't total busts....they are so annoying aren't they.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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3. Gray has signed
1. Appel is on the verge of signing

Anytime you want to sign Bryant would be swell Theo. And don't send a fucking 3 year college player that was the 2nd overall pick to the AZL or Boise. Give him his physical and a plane ticket to Kane County already.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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I saw an unconfirmed rumor that Bryant had signed for 5.6

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Fourth-rounder Tyler Skulina has signed with the Cubs for $800,000. That’s a 67 percent increase over the $477,300 assigned value for the pick (No. 108) with which he was drafted.


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Second rounder signed for about 250k under slot.

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The 3rd rounder should sign for under slot too. Mormon's aren't about the money.


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going to love the Sox taking Bryant with a high draft pick next year after he doesn't sign with the Cubs this year

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going to love the Sox taking Bryant with a high draft pick next year after he doesn't sign with the Cubs this year

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs 2013 Draft
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The Cubs have been able to officially sign only 17 of their 40 drafted players because they have to wait to make sure they don't go over the draft spending limit with Bryant. I think he'll sign but in the meantime he's holding things up for many other players who are missing out on valuable development time.


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Cubs, Kris Bryant "Nowhere Close" To Deal - http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
By Steve Adams [June 26 at 12:02pm CST]
While the majority of first-round picks from this year's draft have agreed to terms or signed, Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Cubs and No. 2 overall selection Kris Bryant are "nowhere close to a deal."

Bryant and adviser Scott Boras are seeking a bonus greater than the $6.7MM assigned pick value, while the Cubs are hoping to sign him for just over $6MM, according to Heyman. The Cubs could spend as much as $7MM on Bryant without forfeiting draft picks for 2014, but they can also point to the fact that No. 1 pick Mark Appel signed for $6.35MM and No. 3 pick Jonathan Gray signed for $4.8MM.

Bryant, who hit 31 homers this season for the University of San Diego, could follow the path that Appel took in 2012 and return to college for his senior season to re-enter the draft in 2014. The Cubs wouldn't be able to reallocate the money they'd planned to spend on Bryant, though they would receive a compensatory pick in next year's draft. Heyman reports that talks could go all the way to the July 15 deadline.

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Appel dropped to #8 and Pittsburgh was only able to offer him $3.5M. That's why he went back to college. Bryant was drafted #2. How much more money is he going to get if he goes #1 next year and is it worth the risk if he gets injured or has a worse season? Hell no. He's signing this year.

I think someone in the Cubs front office (Theo) has their hand up Heyman's ass and are using him as the puppet he is to get the negotiations moving.


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Appel dropped to #8 and Pittsburgh was only able to offer him $3.5M. That's why he went back to college. Bryant was drafted #2. How much more money is he going to get if he goes #1 next year and is it worth the risk if he gets injured or has a worse season? Hell no. He's signing this year.

I think someone in the Cubs front office (Theo) has their hand up Heyman's ass and are using him as the puppet he is to get the negotiations moving.


Maybe he doesn't want to play for the Cubs.

I don't blame him.

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