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That was in regard to the Israelites hooking up with heathens.


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That was in regard to the Israelites hooking up with heathens.



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There is no way I would have noticed it.


Really? I noticed it right away. It's just something you don't normally see. That's why we're talking about it, right?

No way.

Everything is seemingly purposefully multiracial or cultural like a college handbook.

Last year a neighbor pulled out a kids pool from 20 years ago. All the kids on it were White. THAT I noticed, because you never see that (one race) anymore.


Can you give me an example of another commercial featuring an interracial couple? It just hasn't been done. That's why it's noteworthy that this one was. Maybe it shouldn't be noteworthy, but it is.

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Can you give me an example of another commercial featuring an interracial couple? It just hasn't been done. That's why it's noteworthy that this one was. Maybe it shouldn't be noteworthy, but it is.


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I'm sure there are a ton of commercials with interracial couples. This isnt a new thing.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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There is no way I would have noticed it.


Really? I noticed it right away. It's just something you don't normally see. That's why we're talking about it, right?

No way.

Everything is seemingly purposefully multiracial or cultural like a college handbook.

Last year a neighbor pulled out a kids pool from 20 years ago. All the kids on it were White. THAT I noticed, because you never see that (one race) anymore.


Can you give me an example of another commercial featuring an interracial couple? It just hasn't been done. That's why it's noteworthy that this one was. Maybe it shouldn't be noteworthy, but it is.
rpb: I wouldn't notice if there was one.
JORR: Name one where there is one.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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There is no way I would have noticed it.


Really? I noticed it right away. It's just something you don't normally see. That's why we're talking about it, right?

No way.

Everything is seemingly purposefully multiracial or cultural like a college handbook.

Last year a neighbor pulled out a kids pool from 20 years ago. All the kids on it were White. THAT I noticed, because you never see that (one race) anymore.


Can you give me an example of another commercial featuring an interracial couple? It just hasn't been done. That's why it's noteworthy that this one was. Maybe it shouldn't be noteworthy, but it is.

I guess the family aspect is different, but every ad for everything nowadays seems to have a multicultural feel.

And maybe I see more of it having a small child. Every toy is marketed that way.

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There really aren't many. That's the entire reason it's being discussed. I wonder if any of you would have noticed if the wife was a midget.

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There really aren't many. That's the entire reason it's being discussed. I wonder if any of you would have noticed if the wife was a midget.

You see my point?

The ads I posted?

Like I said, the one that stuck out to me, was the kids pool with nothing but white kids on it. I dont notice other ones.

I dont know what to tell you. You think Im lying?


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AMES, IA–In the spirit of celebrating diversity at Iowa State University, a black guy was digitally added to the cover of the school's 2001 spring-semester course catalog, school officials announced Monday.

"Here at Iowa State, we have a remarkably diverse student body, with literally dozens of non-whites," Iowa State director of student affairs Andrea Driessen said. "We thought a picture with at least one non-white happily interacting with whites would be a great way to show off this fact. Unfortunately, we didn't have any pictures of whites and non-whites actually interacting, so we had to make one up."

Said chancellor Dr. Michael Arbus: "An unaltered, or 'real,' cover photo would not have adequately captured the glorious rainbow of multiculturalism that is ISU. We thought it best to take a more illusory, 'less-actual' approach in depicting this school's racial demographic."

The black guy, added using Adobe Photoshop, has been identified as Marcus Jamison. A Shreveport, LA, native, Jamison attended Iowa State for one semester in 1996 before transferring to Grambling University. His face was lifted from a photo of him attending a racial-sensitivity seminar during his freshman orientation and digitally added to the course-catalog cover by graphic designer Brian Tompkins.

"Believe me, this was not an easy task. We combed through hundreds of school-newspaper and yearbook file photos before we found a picture of a black guy," Tompkins said. "Even then, we had to keep searching, because we felt it was important that the black guy be smiling."

Added Tompkins: "If you think it's hard to find a picture of a black guy, try finding a smiling black guy!"

In addition to the black guy on its cover, the course catalog features several inside photos of black guys, though only in single-person shots. University authorities stressed that all of those images are actual photos of actual minorities printed on actual paper.

"Each black guy you see in this catalog was, in fact, photographed at one point," Arbus said. "This booklet is our way of letting people know the importance of including black guys in official school publications. That's the Iowa State promise."

Arbus noted that the school's football team also includes "a whole lot" of black guys not pictured.

"We have nothing against black guys at this school, as evidenced by our dedication to adding them to images of campus life," Arbus said. "That shows just how serious we are about our commitment to diversity."

Spokespersons for Iowa State, which added Jamison to the course-catalog cover with neither his knowledge or permission, expressed confidence that he would be pleased.

"I'm sure Mr. Jamison, wherever he is, would be thrilled to see his image used in the service of uplifting the black community and promoting friendship between the races," Iowa State director of communications Bryce Jennings said. "In fact, I bet if he knew about this, he'd even thank us. You're welcome, Marcus!"

Iowa State's use of Photoshop has proven so successful, it is quickly becoming a model for other universities across the nation seeking to improve their schools' veneer of diversity.

"Photoshop opens up an exciting new realm of possibilities for America's institutions of higher learning," University of Montana president Karl Watson said. "Here at Montana, for example, we plan to Photoshop up to 10 percent more Latinos into orientation brochures. If we can get funding, we may also Photoshop handicap-accessible ramps onto exterior shots of campus buildings."

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Here's an opinion piece by a black man who has been married to a white women for twenty years. I see it the same way he does:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews ... ut-us.html

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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There really aren't many. That's the entire reason it's being discussed. I wonder if any of you would have noticed if the wife was a midget.

You see my point?

The ads I posted?

Like I said, the one that stuck out to me, was the kids pool with nothing but white kids on it. I dont notice other ones.

I dont know what to tell you. You think Im lying?


No, I don't think you're lying. But I do think it was something most people noticed right away, simply because it really isn't done. (And no, the Durant commercial doesn't count.) I just posted a link to a piece by a black guy who had the same reaction I did- "Did I really see that? Well, hell, good for Cheerios. That's what America looks like."

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AMES, IA–In the spirit of celebrating diversity at Iowa State University, a black guy was digitally added to the cover of the school's 2001 spring-semester course catalog, school officials announced Monday.

"Here at Iowa State, we have a remarkably diverse student body, with literally dozens of non-whites," Iowa State director of student affairs Andrea Driessen said. "We thought a picture with at least one non-white happily interacting with whites would be a great way to show off this fact. Unfortunately, we didn't have any pictures of whites and non-whites actually interacting, so we had to make one up."

Said chancellor Dr. Michael Arbus: "An unaltered, or 'real,' cover photo would not have adequately captured the glorious rainbow of multiculturalism that is ISU. We thought it best to take a more illusory, 'less-actual' approach in depicting this school's racial demographic."

The black guy, added using Adobe Photoshop, has been identified as Marcus Jamison. A Shreveport, LA, native, Jamison attended Iowa State for one semester in 1996 before transferring to Grambling University. His face was lifted from a photo of him attending a racial-sensitivity seminar during his freshman orientation and digitally added to the course-catalog cover by graphic designer Brian Tompkins.

"Believe me, this was not an easy task. We combed through hundreds of school-newspaper and yearbook file photos before we found a picture of a black guy," Tompkins said. "Even then, we had to keep searching, because we felt it was important that the black guy be smiling."

Added Tompkins: "If you think it's hard to find a picture of a black guy, try finding a smiling black guy!"

In addition to the black guy on its cover, the course catalog features several inside photos of black guys, though only in single-person shots. University authorities stressed that all of those images are actual photos of actual minorities printed on actual paper.

"Each black guy you see in this catalog was, in fact, photographed at one point," Arbus said. "This booklet is our way of letting people know the importance of including black guys in official school publications. That's the Iowa State promise."

Arbus noted that the school's football team also includes "a whole lot" of black guys not pictured.

"We have nothing against black guys at this school, as evidenced by our dedication to adding them to images of campus life," Arbus said. "That shows just how serious we are about our commitment to diversity."

Spokespersons for Iowa State, which added Jamison to the course-catalog cover with neither his knowledge or permission, expressed confidence that he would be pleased.

"I'm sure Mr. Jamison, wherever he is, would be thrilled to see his image used in the service of uplifting the black community and promoting friendship between the races," Iowa State director of communications Bryce Jennings said. "In fact, I bet if he knew about this, he'd even thank us. You're welcome, Marcus!"

Iowa State's use of Photoshop has proven so successful, it is quickly becoming a model for other universities across the nation seeking to improve their schools' veneer of diversity.

"Photoshop opens up an exciting new realm of possibilities for America's institutions of higher learning," University of Montana president Karl Watson said. "Here at Montana, for example, we plan to Photoshop up to 10 percent more Latinos into orientation brochures. If we can get funding, we may also Photoshop handicap-accessible ramps onto exterior shots of campus buildings."

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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There really aren't many. That's the entire reason it's being discussed. I wonder if any of you would have noticed if the wife was a midget.

You see my point?

The ads I posted?

Like I said, the one that stuck out to me, was the kids pool with nothing but white kids on it. I dont notice other ones.

I dont know what to tell you. You think Im lying?


No, I don't think you're lying. But I do think it was something most people noticed right away, simply because it really isn't done. (And no, the Durant commercial doesn't count.) I just posted a link to a piece by a black guy who had the same reaction I did- "Did I really see that? Well, hell, good for Cheerios. That's what America looks like."

I dont watch commericals much. I heard this story before I saw the ad.


I guess maybe Im talking about something else. You see what I mean about how most ads try to work in all the races? And how its jarring now when its just one race?


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You see my point?

The ads I posted?


And none of those is a couple. I know that advertisers often include a diverse group in an advertisement. They rarely show a mixed couple.

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You see my point?

The ads I posted?


And none of those is a couple. I know that advertisers often include a diverse group in an advertisement. They rarely show a mixed couple.

I dont really watch commercials close enough to make that distinction

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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You see my point?

The ads I posted?


And none of those is a couple. I know that advertisers often include a diverse group in an advertisement. They rarely show a mixed couple.

I dont really watch commercials close enough to make that distinction

Id just think, another commercial with a diverse group



There's not even really many TV shows with mixed couples. I always hoped Dwayne Wayne was gonna nail Maggie.

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Id say its much ado about nothing.

Just Youtube idiots being Youtube idiots and the media latched on because we havent had a mass murder in a few weeks

Cheerios commercial with interracial family stirred faux controversy





The Cheerios commercial that sent shock waves through the media was so controversial that I had to watch it twice to figure out what I was missing.
An adorable little girl is asking her mother about the cereal’s heart-healthy benefits. A sleeping dad has a pile of Cheerios on his chest, ostensibly placed there by a daughter who misunderstood the product’s cholesterol-clearing mechanism.

Oh, the father in the spot is black, the mother is white, and the daughter looks like a blend of the two. Is it surprising that some took exception to this portrayal and posted hateful rhetoric in the comments of a YouTube video of the ad?

Part of the Internet’s function, in fact, might be as an anonymous release valve for society’s disgruntled, dislocated and disturbed. For those who perceive themselves as powerless against the changing tides of culture, economy and demographics, the misspelled, caps-lock ugliness spouted online is their power.

In a most reasonable manner, General Mills asked to disable comments on the YouTube video featuring the spot. This became national news.

The reaction to the reaction was over-the-top. News reports said the spot and the reaction to it sparked a heated conversation about race and forced us to confront attitudes about interracial families.

This plays directly to the aim of the trolls. They want us to think there is something abnormal about a completely normal situation. They want to plant seeds of doubt that we might actually live in a country in which a sizable proportion of the population takes issue with a biracial child and parents as controversial as whole grain oats.

They want us to believe we live in an America completely different from the one that actually exists.

In fact, mixed race marriages in America have grown by 28 percent over a decade, according to the 2010 U.S. Census, from 7 to 10 percent.

Nearly two-thirds of Americans said it “would be fine” with them if a member of their own family were to marry someone outside their own racial or ethnic group, according to a 2012 Pew Research study.

We’ve gone from a country, which in 1986 had just a third of its citizens viewing intermarriage as acceptable, to one in which more than a third say that a close relative is married to someone of a different race, according to Pew researchers.

The purported controversy over an ad featuring such a family is much ado over nothing.

There will always be knuckle-draggers among us, who shout horribly racist comments online. Why amplify their voice?

And there will always be those who prefer to date or marry within their race or ethnicity.

When General Mills comes out taking a stand against the bigots and standing by their commercial, it’s great free publicity associated with their brand.

“Do we really want to hear the hate pour forth from all the whackos on the planet who have access to YouTube, each of them posting 40 kabillion times under different aliases to make their numbers seem larger? No. We get it. You’re racist. Let it be your secret,” says Los Angeles-based writer Cynthia Liu, who blogs about about race, culture, gender and parenting.

“This is a tempest in a cereal bowl, right?” Liu said. In fact, she posits that Cheerios’ move could even be an “upside-down, inside-out” way to dog-whistle to open-minded parents who otherwise might not buy the cereal.

The most reasonable way to explain all the attention this has generated has come from the 6-year-old star of the commercial, Grace Colbert, whose mother told MSNBC that her daughter thought all the fuss was over her great smile.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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You see my point?

The ads I posted?


And none of those is a couple. I know that advertisers often include a diverse group in an advertisement. They rarely show a mixed couple.

I dont really watch commercials close enough to make that distinction

Id just think, another commercial with a diverse group



There's not even really many TV shows with mixed couples. I always hoped Dwayne Wayne was gonna nail Maggie.

Im not saying its common. Im saying I wouldnt notice it, becuase Im used to everything being diversified.


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Spark, I respect your outlook but JORR is correct in that interracial dating/marriage is unfortunately still taboo at this point, particularly with black men/white women combinations. I don't think there are many ad agencies who would have the guts to put that in a TV ad. This should change, and I applaud General Mills/Cheerios for being one of the few to do so.

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Id say its much ado about nothing.

Just Youtube idiots being Youtube idiots and the media latched on because we havent had a mass murder in a few weeks

Cheerios commercial with interracial family stirred faux controversy





The Cheerios commercial that sent shock waves through the media was so controversial that I had to watch it twice to figure out what I was missing.
An adorable little girl is asking her mother about the cereal’s heart-healthy benefits. A sleeping dad has a pile of Cheerios on his chest, ostensibly placed there by a daughter who misunderstood the product’s cholesterol-clearing mechanism.

Oh, the father in the spot is black, the mother is white, and the daughter looks like a blend of the two. Is it surprising that some took exception to this portrayal and posted hateful rhetoric in the comments of a YouTube video of the ad?

Part of the Internet’s function, in fact, might be as an anonymous release valve for society’s disgruntled, dislocated and disturbed. For those who perceive themselves as powerless against the changing tides of culture, economy and demographics, the misspelled, caps-lock ugliness spouted online is their power.

In a most reasonable manner, General Mills asked to disable comments on the YouTube video featuring the spot. This became national news.

The reaction to the reaction was over-the-top. News reports said the spot and the reaction to it sparked a heated conversation about race and forced us to confront attitudes about interracial families.

This plays directly to the aim of the trolls. They want us to think there is something abnormal about a completely normal situation. They want to plant seeds of doubt that we might actually live in a country in which a sizable proportion of the population takes issue with a biracial child and parents as controversial as whole grain oats.

They want us to believe we live in an America completely different from the one that actually exists.

In fact, mixed race marriages in America have grown by 28 percent over a decade, according to the 2010 U.S. Census, from 7 to 10 percent.

Nearly two-thirds of Americans said it “would be fine” with them if a member of their own family were to marry someone outside their own racial or ethnic group, according to a 2012 Pew Research study.

We’ve gone from a country, which in 1986 had just a third of its citizens viewing intermarriage as acceptable, to one in which more than a third say that a close relative is married to someone of a different race, according to Pew researchers.

The purported controversy over an ad featuring such a family is much ado over nothing.

There will always be knuckle-draggers among us, who shout horribly racist comments online. Why amplify their voice?

And there will always be those who prefer to date or marry within their race or ethnicity.

When General Mills comes out taking a stand against the bigots and standing by their commercial, it’s great free publicity associated with their brand.

“Do we really want to hear the hate pour forth from all the whackos on the planet who have access to YouTube, each of them posting 40 kabillion times under different aliases to make their numbers seem larger? No. We get it. You’re racist. Let it be your secret,” says Los Angeles-based writer Cynthia Liu, who blogs about about race, culture, gender and parenting.

“This is a tempest in a cereal bowl, right?” Liu said. In fact, she posits that Cheerios’ move could even be an “upside-down, inside-out” way to dog-whistle to open-minded parents who otherwise might not buy the cereal.

The most reasonable way to explain all the attention this has generated has come from the 6-year-old star of the commercial, Grace Colbert, whose mother told MSNBC that her daughter thought all the fuss was over her great smile.

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Right.

It's not like there are boycotts or marches over this "controversy".

It's the fucking comments section of YouTube.

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Spark, I respect your outlook but JORR is correct in that interracial dating/marriage is unfortunately still taboo at this point, particularly with black men/white women combinations. I don't think there are many ad agencies who would have the guts to put that in a TV ad. This should change, and I applaud General Mills/Cheerios for being one of the few to do so.

That's not really disagreeing with me.

All I said, is that I personally wouldnt notice it.

How close do you guys watch commercials anyway?

I doubt I would even see the dad and mom and kid all in one sitting. I see cheerios and look away because I know all I need to know about Cheerios


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Spark, I respect your outlook but JORR is correct in that interracial dating/marriage is unfortunately still taboo at this point, particularly with black men/white women combinations. I don't think there are many ad agencies who would have the guts to put that in a TV ad. This should change, and I applaud General Mills/Cheerios for being one of the few to do so.


I respect your outlook but who is it taboo to other than the vocal insane minority?

We can't let those people define a collective group.

Otherwise every Republican hates minorities, every liberal hates America, and every Cubs fan is Elmhurst Steve.

It's Scoreheading on an immense scale.

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I'm more concerned that the commercial shows an assault against a minority.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:33 pm 
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Why the fuck do we need cheerios commericals anyways?

Has anyone ever learned anything about Cheerios after the age of 5?


Why dont they spend that time making the moving sidewalks.

We'd be zippin around all over the place


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Yeah, I must say I don't pay attention to any of that when I see commercials. Not sure if it is a good or bad thing, but it is just something that doesn't bother me one way or the other.

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This should change, and I applaud General Mills/Cheerios for being one of the few to do so.


Beyond making the commercial, it's content is artistically outstanding also.

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