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I'm not a Paula Deen fan but this is really shoddy work, so I have to comment. You're projecting a lot of your judgment toward Southerners, and really showing a lack of professionalism in your writing. You assume every allegation is confirmed, and really rely on some shaky sources who have self serving motivations for your "sources."

Finally, what do her education or looks have to do with racism? Because she wasn't educated formally, she "stumbled into her position?" Do you have any idea how pompous and ignorant you sound? My Father was an immigrant with a third grade education, he worked hard and opened a successful restaurant which he ran (eventually a chain) until retirement. He wasn't educated, did he stumble into that? I've never worked in a restaurant but I have an MSEE, am I somehow more deserving of his wealth?

The worst part is that you criticize Deen for being a bigot, but then you stereotype the entire South, un-educated people, and more. In your world all un-educated people are inferior and unworthy of any success they earn (ala your disdain for Mike North), is that not a form of bigotry?

You're the worst kind of idiot...one that is convinced he's brilliant, likely because you speak to dribbling boobs about sports all day. Grow up.

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That could not have been said better.

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OK, I've read enough. This is, and always will be, the problem with Bernstein. I 100%, absolutely agree with his perceptions of Paula Deen. She is a piece of garbage... trash at its highest honor... and yet, if I didn't know Bernstein, the fervor in which he admonishes her is characteristic of someone who is marching the streets and protesting the downplay of the minority's plight.

Dan Bernstein, even when his opinions are correct, tends to obscure the message with his general unlikable nature. The fact is, Dan Bernstein doesn't care any more about black people than Paula Deen does.


One could argue that Bernstein is worse than Deen. Considering his upbringing and education vs. hers.


Far be it for me to defend Berns, but why would his education & upbringing make him "worse"?

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OK, I've read enough. This is, and always will be, the problem with Bernstein. I 100%, absolutely agree with his perceptions of Paula Deen. She is a piece of garbage... trash at its highest honor... and yet, if I didn't know Bernstein, the fervor in which he admonishes her is characteristic of someone who is marching the streets and protesting the downplay of the minority's plight.

Dan Bernstein, even when his opinions are correct, tends to obscure the message with his general unlikable nature. The fact is, Dan Bernstein doesn't care any more about black people than Paula Deen does.


One could argue that Bernstein is worse than Deen. Considering his upbringing and education vs. hers.


Far be it for me to defend Berns, but why would his education & upbringing make him "worse"?

I dont know Paula Deen's specific story, but I would expect less ignorance out of educated people

I guess that's me stereotyping the "uneducated" but it likely bares out.


To say it another way, I would be more surprised to hear bigotry from a person who grew up around all races than someone who grew up in a small town with all white people


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There are a lot of college campuses where the thinking isn't as progressive as you'd think.

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There are a lot of college campuses where the thinking isn't as progressive as you'd think.

For sure.

Id still bet on Highly Educated vs Less Educated in a who is less bigoted fight


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Educated racists are much more dangerous than non educated racists. Especially the educated closet racists. That's the point. It's not the Mike Norths of the world that black people should fear. It's the Dan Bernsteins of the world.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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There are a lot of college campuses where the thinking isn't as progressive as you'd think.

For sure.

Id still bet on Highly Educated vs Less Educated in a who is less bigoted fight


I think the matter is more complicated than assessing the intensity of racism exhibited by various social classes. I agree that uneducated people are more likely to display a kind of pre-Civil Rights Era, atavistic form of bigotry than are well educated people. But that doesn't make the less educated "more racist" than the educated. Rather, among educated people there is a subtler--perhaps even unconscious--way of expressing racism that paradoxically adheres to the reigning doctrine of political correctness. For that reason, you might call the bigotry of the educated "multicultural racism." Multicultural racism is geared toward expressing racial tolerance and eviscerating atavistic, "individualized" forms of racism--using the so-called "N" word and other racial epithets, deploying obvious racial stereotypes, etc--while preserving the status quo in terms of power relations. Multicultural racists want to destroy the language of racism while preserving the structures and institutions of a racist society, usually by subscribing to a belief in the racial neutrality of the so-called free market (something that does not and never has existed) and the other organizing concepts undergirding our national identity. In other words, multicultural racists want to preserve the "feelings" and "dignity" of minorities even as they defend a social order that undermines the concept of racial equality. According to this view, the problem of racism is no longer central to society, but only erupts in the anachronistic beliefs of a fading white supremacist culture that no longer occupies a position of prominence in the U.S.

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Tall Midget wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
There are a lot of college campuses where the thinking isn't as progressive as you'd think.

For sure.

Id still bet on Highly Educated vs Less Educated in a who is less bigoted fight


I think the matter is more complicated than assessing the intensity of racism exhibited by various social classes. I agree that uneducated people are more likely to display a kind of pre-Civil Rights Era, atavistic form of bigotry than are well educated people. But that doesn't make the less educated "more racist" than the educated. Rather, among educated people there is a subtler--perhaps even unconscious--way of expressing racism that paradoxically adheres to the reigning doctrine of political correctness. For that reason, you might call the bigotry of the educated "multicultural racism." Multicultural racism is geared toward expressing racial tolerance and eviscerating atavistic, "individualized" forms of racism--using the so-called "N" word and other racial epithets, deploying obvious racial stereotypes, etc--while preserving the status quo in terms of power relations. Multicultural racists want to destroy the language of racism while preserving the structures and institutions of a racist society, usually by subscribing to a belief in the racial neutrality of the so-called free market (something that does not and never has existed) and the other organizing concepts undergirding our national identity. In other words, multicultural racists want to preserve the "feelings" and "dignity" of minorities even as they defend a social order that undermines the concept of racial equality. According to this view, the problem of racism is no longer central to society, but only erupts in the anachronistic beliefs of a fading white supremacist culture that no longer occupies a position of prominence in the U.S.

I don't think that really constitutes racism, but it does make the crusade against racism phony as a 3 dollar bill. Bob Somerby mentions this frequently: http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2011/11/basic-lack-of-skill-rachel-and-lawrence.html

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Let’s repeat that astonishing fact: In this year’s testing, black and Hispanic kids scored higher in math than white kids did in 1990. That is a truly remarkable fact—but you have never seen it reported! It wasn’t reported, or hinted at, in Dillon’s report in the Times.

Why not?

Why haven’t you seen that astonishing fact in your nation’s newspapers? Why isn’t that fact widely reported and widely discussed? Why haven’t you ever seen that fact in Gotham’s glorious New York Times? Why don’t “liberals” cite such facts every day of the whole goddamned week?

We’ll offer two possible answers:

First, your nation suffers under a deeply Potemkin press culture. Whatever you might want to call it, the New York Times isn’t a real newspaper. This fact is evident in many ways. (Have you ever read a Gail Collins column?) But if the New York Times really was a newspaper, is there any way it could write news reports about NAEP testing in recent decades without including such facts?

Second, the “career liberal” world is a major confection. Whatever you might want to call the people who star on your liberal cable news channel, it’s fairly hard to regard them as “liberals.” On what planet would “liberals” fail to report the facts we've just cited? (We’ve been citing similar facts for years.) At a time when public school teachers are under attack—when privatization is widely advanced in all areas; when government itself is under constant attack—those data from the “gold standard” testing program suggest that a stunning success has occurred in the public schools, one of our largest public programs. What kind of “liberal” would fail to trumpet the fact that the public schools have achieved this success? Even more disgracefully, what kinds of people would keep you from hearing that the nation’s black and Hispanic kids have achieved this startling success?

Who would keep you from knowing these things? Who else? The horrible, low-IQ, self-dealing cretins who pose as journalists, experts and liberals within our Potemkin culture! The kinds of folk who are cast as “editors” at the New York Times! Most disgustingly, the kinds of people who would rather attack George Bush than heap much-deserved praise on the nation’s black children. In other words, the horrible, terrible, low-IQ people you see each night on your “TV machine thingy!” The self-adoring, clowning buffoons who stuff millions of bucks in their pants as they walk all over the interests of black kids.

Earth to readers: These people and their “producers” know something. They know that we, the target audience, don’t give a flying fig about black kids—and so, they don’t bore us with those facts. Instead, they feed us pleasing tales about the bigots over there—the racist and bigots over there, in the other tribe. At the Times, a low-IQ legacy pimps you a pile of embarrassing shit about all the bigots in Bama.

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I would also add that there's a geographical displacement central to multicultural racism in addition to its historical displacement (ie, identifying racism as a "thing of the past.). Multicultural racists like Bernstein focus their outrage on the South while failing to acknowledge that northern cities like Chicago, Milwaukee, Boston, etc. remain incredibly segregated and represent a culture of educational failure and incarceration that ensures a new form of racial oppression.

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I actually understand sini's posts more than I do Midge's. I'm not sure what that says about me.


Sorry if I was unclear. The point is simple: Today's educated racists target uneducated, "vocal" bigots as a way of appearing to be racially tolerant. In fact, they are no better than these "rednecks"--and may be worse--because their politics is purely symbolic. They hate visible or vocal forms of racism, but defend institutions and concepts (the free market, the criminal justice system, stop-and-frisk, the war on crime, the war on drugs, the war on welfare, social austerity, etc.) that have produced racial inequality. Multicultural racists adhere to a language of racial neutrality or empathy while participating in a politics of racial oppression.

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Tall Midget wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
There are a lot of college campuses where the thinking isn't as progressive as you'd think.

For sure.

Id still bet on Highly Educated vs Less Educated in a who is less bigoted fight


I think the matter is more complicated than assessing the intensity of racism exhibited by various social classes. I agree that uneducated people are more likely to display a kind of pre-Civil Rights Era, atavistic form of bigotry than are well educated people. But that doesn't make the less educated "more racist" than the educated. Rather, among educated people there is a subtler--perhaps even unconscious--way of expressing racism that paradoxically adheres to the reigning doctrine of political correctness. For that reason, you might call the bigotry of the educated "multicultural racism." Multicultural racism is geared toward expressing racial tolerance and eviscerating atavistic, "individualized" forms of racism--using the so-called "N" word and other racial epithets, deploying obvious racial stereotypes, etc--while preserving the status quo in terms of power relations. Multicultural racists want to destroy the language of racism while preserving the structures and institutions of a racist society, usually by subscribing to a belief in the racial neutrality of the so-called free market (something that does not and never has existed) and the other organizing concepts undergirding our national identity. In other words, multicultural racists want to preserve the "feelings" and "dignity" of minorities even as they defend a social order that undermines the concept of racial equality. According to this view, the problem of racism is no longer central to society, but only erupts in the anachronistic beliefs of a fading white supremacist culture that no longer occupies a position of prominence in the U.S.

Pardon me if I may dumb this down a bit


Less Educated people are more obvious with their in your face old school racism.

The educated are subtle but still racist. Also they are fighting a losing battle in keeping every race "in its place" in our society



EDIT: I didnt see Midget already clarified even further


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Tall Midget wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
I actually understand sini's posts more than I do Midge's. I'm not sure what that says about me.


Sorry if I was unclear. The point is simple: Today's educated racists target uneducated, "vocal" bigots as a way of appearing to be racially tolerant. In fact, they are no better than these "rednecks"--and may be worse--because their politics is purely symbolic. They hate visible or vocal forms of racism, but defend institutions and concepts (the free market, the criminal justice system, stop-and-frisk, the war on crime, the war on drugs, the war on welfare, social austerity, etc.) that have produced racial inequality. Multicultural racists adhere to a language of racial neutrality or empathy while participating in a politics of racial oppression.


Nothing can really help me Midge. I'm pretty much a dumbass. But thanks.

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OK, I've read enough. This is, and always will be, the problem with Bernstein. I 100%, absolutely agree with his perceptions of Paula Deen. She is a piece of garbage... trash at its highest honor... and yet, if I didn't know Bernstein, the fervor in which he admonishes her is characteristic of someone who is marching the streets and protesting the downplay of the minority's plight. But what is he actually doing? He is trolling meatballs and laughing about references to female genitalia by his partner.

And yet... even with the bullshit he talks about and the feigned outrage he so easily displays, I could still relate to his cause if only there were a rhyme or reason to what he bitched about. He hates Paula Deen, Jerry Sandusky, Tim Tebow, and Lance Armstrong. There is nothing common about these caricatures. This is due to Bernstein's way of thinking. He reads a newspaper or blog or website, and he sees something that he disagrees with philosophically, and he goes into overdrive condemning the person on public air waves. But he does not research the topic further or realize that his accusations are like searching for a needle in a hay stack. There are literally hundreds of thousands of individuals just as sickening as Paula Deen. There are also hundreds of thousands of individuals actually fighting the good fight. They are the ones going door to door and garnering votes for political figures who will fight for just causes. They are the ones heading up NPO's who fight for the disenfranchised and genuinely caring for people at an individual level. They are the journalists who do actual, honest to god reporting of unjust and archaic causes. Bernstein is a mouthpiece. He is an immature child who sees something which he disagrees with philosophically, latches on, and then makes a federal cause out of it, without ever actually doing anything to enact change or to persuade public consciousness for the better.

To summarize, Paula Dean is a piece of shit, and Dan Bernstein is one step above that.


Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...


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OK, I've read enough. This is, and always will be, the problem with Bernstein. I 100%, absolutely agree with his perceptions of Paula Deen. She is a piece of garbage... trash at its highest honor... and yet, if I didn't know Bernstein, the fervor in which he admonishes her is characteristic of someone who is marching the streets and protesting the downplay of the minority's plight. But what is he actually doing? He is trolling meatballs and laughing about references to female genitalia by his partner.

And yet... even with the bullshit he talks about and the feigned outrage he so easily displays, I could still relate to his cause if only there were a rhyme or reason to what he bitched about. He hates Paula Deen, Jerry Sandusky, Tim Tebow, and Lance Armstrong. There is nothing common about these caricatures. This is due to Bernstein's way of thinking. He reads a newspaper or blog or website, and he sees something that he disagrees with philosophically, and he goes into overdrive condemning the person on public air waves. But he does not research the topic further or realize that his accusations are like searching for a needle in a hay stack. There are literally hundreds of thousands of individuals just as sickening as Paula Deen. There are also hundreds of thousands of individuals actually fighting the good fight. They are the ones going door to door and garnering votes for political figures who will fight for just causes. They are the ones heading up NPO's who fight for the disenfranchised and genuinely caring for people at an individual level. They are the journalists who do actual, honest to god reporting of unjust and archaic causes. Bernstein is a mouthpiece. He is an immature child who sees something which he disagrees with philosophically, latches on, and then makes a federal cause out of it, without ever actually doing anything to enact change or to persuade public consciousness for the better.

To summarize, Paula Dean is a piece of shit, and Dan Bernstein is one step above that.


Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...

I agree.

But, the fact that she's diabetic and was pimping food that would be awful for healthy people and even worse for diabetics kinda muddies the water.

There is some legitimate angst to be aimed at her over that.


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True, but I just get this feeling he made up his mind on her a long, long time ago before that stuff came out. But you're right.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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There are a lot of college campuses where the thinking isn't as progressive as you'd think.

For sure.

Id still bet on Highly Educated vs Less Educated in a who is less bigoted fight


I think the matter is more complicated than assessing the intensity of racism exhibited by various social classes. I agree that uneducated people are more likely to display a kind of pre-Civil Rights Era, atavistic form of bigotry than are well educated people. But that doesn't make the less educated "more racist" than the educated. Rather, among educated people there is a subtler--perhaps even unconscious--way of expressing racism that paradoxically adheres to the reigning doctrine of political correctness. For that reason, you might call the bigotry of the educated "multicultural racism." Multicultural racism is geared toward expressing racial tolerance and eviscerating atavistic, "individualized" forms of racism--using the so-called "N" word and other racial epithets, deploying obvious racial stereotypes, etc--while preserving the status quo in terms of power relations. Multicultural racists want to destroy the language of racism while preserving the structures and institutions of a racist society, usually by subscribing to a belief in the racial neutrality of the so-called free market (something that does not and never has existed) and the other organizing concepts undergirding our national identity. In other words, multicultural racists want to preserve the "feelings" and "dignity" of minorities even as they defend a social order that undermines the concept of racial equality. According to this view, the problem of racism is no longer central to society, but only erupts in the anachronistic beliefs of a fading white supremacist culture that no longer occupies a position of prominence in the U.S.

Pardon me if I may dumb this down a bit


Less Educated people are more obvious with their in your face old school racism.

The educated are subtle but still racist. Also they are fighting a losing battle in keeping every race "in its place" in our society


It's not just a question of subtlety. It's also a matter of actively hating people like Paula Deen, of making them figures of public scorn, of openly espousing an "enlightened" form of cosmopolitan behavior--but then supporting political platforms that ensure ongoing racial oppression.

One example of this would be the War on Crime that Nixon championed during his administration and that has continued with varying degrees of intensity through the present. Effectively this was a reactionary social program that was launched in response to a combination of black radicalism and despair following the assassination of MLK. Rather than engaging the root causes of black urban rebellion (deindustrialization, high unemployment, poor education, etc) Nixon and his cronies instituted a federally-funded program of mass surveillance and incarceration to be carried out by local law enforcement across the U.S. From this perspective, the burgeoning penitentiary system in the U.S. is thus nothing other than a white supremacist response to black discontent with racial inequality. It was/is a systematic strategy for curbing black political activity. Part of the success of this program, however, can be accounted for by examining the racially neutral language used to promote it. In the Antebellum era or Jim Crow South authorities deliberately used racially charged language to unite white populations against the "threat" of black crime or unrest. In the neoliberal era, systematic surveillance and incarceration of urban blacks is carried out through the use of a language of "safety," "security" and "family protection." This discourse makes it "safe" for multicultural racists to espouse a hatred for "redneck" racism while still supporting an agenda of racial domination.

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There is no doubt in my mind that black people around this city cringe when Larry sits beside this racist with adoring eyes and in full blown worship mode. Bernstein has convinced Larry that he's one of the good racists. A justified racist, if you will. Not like those cracker racists of the south. An amazing statement. I know. But that's what he's done.


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Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...

I've never had southern home cooking. I need to get on that ASAP. Heard great things.


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Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...


He used to talk fondly about Fried Chicken and Waffle Houses in the south, "scattered, smothered, and covered", and so on. Is that similar to the stuff Deen cooks?


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True, but I just get this feeling he made up his mind on her a long, long time ago before that stuff came out. But you're right.

You're absolutely right.

The way he went at her on that story, there is no way that was "new" anger


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There is no doubt in my mind that black people around this city cringe when Larry sits beside this racist with adoring eyes and in full blown worship mode. Bernstein has convinced Larry that he's one of the good racists. A justified racist, if you will. Not like those cracker racists of the south. An amazing statement. I know. But that's what he's done.


I doubt Larry believes Dan is any kind of racist.

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Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...


He used to talk fondly about Fried Chicken and Waffle Houses in the south, "scattered, smothered, and covered", and so on. Is that similar to the stuff Deen cooks?


Yes.

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Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...


He used to talk fondly about Fried Chicken and Waffle Houses in the south, "scattered, smothered, and covered", and so on. Is that similar to the stuff Deen cooks?


Yes.


That's "Street Cred" building for BernSTINE, he does it with rap music, "urban" culture anecdotes and his glorious travels with a CBA team.


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Beardown wrote:
There is no doubt in my mind that black people around this city cringe when Larry sits beside this racist with adoring eyes and in full blown worship mode. Bernstein has convinced Larry that he's one of the good racists. A justified racist, if you will. Not like those cracker racists of the south. An amazing statement. I know. But that's what he's done.


I doubt Larry believes Dan is any kind of racist.


That would be more sad. I give Larry the benefit of the doubt of having some intelligence. If you're right, he's dumber than anybody thought.

I think he looks the other way because Bernstein is the key to advancement and financial gain. He was to be his partner. Where he knows Larry will carry him. Can't challenge him on tough issues. Can't question him. Racism is bad, but Larry looks the other way when his best interests are involved.


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Tad Queasy wrote:
Woodridge Ryan wrote:
Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...


He used to talk fondly about Fried Chicken and Waffle Houses in the south, "scattered, smothered, and covered", and so on. Is that similar to the stuff Deen cooks?


Ah, you are right about that. I've always felt he says that stuff just to make sound like he fits in with the common man. Could be a bad assumption on my part.


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I think you guys are pretty far out there with this racist angle.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
Woodridge Ryan wrote:
Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...


He used to talk fondly about Fried Chicken and Waffle Houses in the south, "scattered, smothered, and covered", and so on. Is that similar to the stuff Deen cooks?


Yes.


That's "Street Cred" building for BernSTINE, he does it with rap music, "urban" culture anecdotes and his glorious travels with a CBA team.


I picture Dan's relationship with CBA players being veary similar to Laurence's relationship with Dan. Except Dan is wearing an 8 ball jacket that his parents don't know he bought.


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