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Ok I put up with the Sandusky stuff and the CTE and on and on because there was a sports angle. But why the fuck is this on a sports website?

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/06/22/ ... ly-racist/

It's on CBSChicago.com, which last I checked, is more than just sports. :?


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Is there any evidence that Berns dislikes balcks, or are you all just making an assumption because he is Jewish, grew up in Deerield, & attended Duke?

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Well said. I've been a supporter of Bernstein's lately, but its clear there is more to this and than just that she used the "n" word. I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers. This just gives him another reason to go after her. I'm guessing no one will agree with this additional angle, but I'm convinced there is a bit of this mixed in with everything else in his need to write a column on her...


He used to talk fondly about Fried Chicken and Waffle Houses in the south, "scattered, smothered, and covered", and so on. Is that similar to the stuff Deen cooks?


Ah, you are right about that. I've always felt he says that stuff just to make sound like he fits in with the common man. Could be a bad assumption on my part.


So...you guys don't like waffle house? :P

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Is there any evidence that Berns dislikes balcks, or are you all just making an assumption because he is Jewish, grew up in Deerield, & attended Duke?


I don't think he dislikes blacks. I think he believes he is their superior.

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Right. And that's racism. He feels blacks are lessor people. Bottom line. His white superior attitude shows in the following.

1. I'd never draft a white RB or white center. Give me a big black all the time.

2. His impersonation of black people is him using Ebonics.

3. He talked down to Goff a lot. Subtle. But he did.

4. Him telling black people to move the hell out of Englewood.

5. Other examples of him discussing blacks like they're animals. You hear it. Don't act like you don't.


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His amazement that a black man drinks coffee and opens mail just like a white man.

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6. Don't feel sorry for the crack whore Whitney Houston. However, you should feel bad for the alcoholic, obese, druggie James Gandolfini.


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6. Don't feel sorry for the crack whore Whitney Houston. However, you should feel bad for the alcoholic, obese, druggie James Gandolfini.


Wait I thought he said you shouldn't feel bad unless you knew him. Maybe I'm wrong though.

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6. Don't feel sorry for the crack whore Whitney Houston. However, you should feel bad for the alcoholic, obese, druggie James Gandolfini.


Wait I thought he said you shouldn't feel bad unless you knew him. Maybe I'm wrong though.


He didn't know him. I thought the posted tweet was that Bernstein, himself, felt bad cuz he knew people who knew him. Those white people told him he was great and there for you should look past his addictions. But no such compassion for Whitney. No. Crack whore bitch died cuz she's a crack whore. No sympathy for her.


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I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers.

Yeah, but Dan will gleefully talk about his gluttonous Waffle House exploits, or Carolina barbecue shacks.

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I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers.

Yeah, but Dan will gleefully talk about his gluttonous Waffle House exploits, or Carolina barbecue shacks.


Or worse yet, his love of McGangbangs.

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Yeah, between what he talks about and what he photographs, he eats a lot of really heavy food. He gets to burn it off, though. Most Paula Deen fans probably don't.

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There are a lot of college campuses where the thinking isn't as progressive as you'd think.

For sure.

Id still bet on Highly Educated vs Less Educated in a who is less bigoted fight


I think the matter is more complicated than assessing the intensity of racism exhibited by various social classes. I agree that uneducated people are more likely to display a kind of pre-Civil Rights Era, atavistic form of bigotry than are well educated people. But that doesn't make the less educated "more racist" than the educated. Rather, among educated people there is a subtler--perhaps even unconscious--way of expressing racism that paradoxically adheres to the reigning doctrine of political correctness. For that reason, you might call the bigotry of the educated "multicultural racism." Multicultural racism is geared toward expressing racial tolerance and eviscerating atavistic, "individualized" forms of racism--using the so-called "N" word and other racial epithets, deploying obvious racial stereotypes, etc--while preserving the status quo in terms of power relations. Multicultural racists want to destroy the language of racism while preserving the structures and institutions of a racist society, usually by subscribing to a belief in the racial neutrality of the so-called free market (something that does not and never has existed) and the other organizing concepts undergirding our national identity. In other words, multicultural racists want to preserve the "feelings" and "dignity" of minorities even as they defend a social order that undermines the concept of racial equality. According to this view, the problem of racism is no longer central to society, but only erupts in the anachronistic beliefs of a fading white supremacist culture that no longer occupies a position of prominence in the U.S.


I don't necessarily disagree at all, but I'd like to hear why you think the free market has never actually existed and why the free market (at least in our current construct) encourages or maintains racist social hierarchies.

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I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers.

Yeah, but Dan will gleefully talk about his gluttonous Waffle House exploits, or Carolina barbecue shacks.


Or worse yet, his love of McGangbangs.


Dan Bernstein likes progressive nutrition when it suits him. He will tell you in the same breath that Paula Deen is a leech who sucks the money out of her audience by exhibiting food that gives diabetes while also bragging about the ability to eat 10 McDonald's cheeseburgers. This is objective fact.

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That was a part of my even starting the thread. I figured her food would be up his alley once in a while. Does he criticize the show "Down Home with the Negleys"? They seem to make the same home southern/soul food stuff that can't be great for you in mass quantities. Oops I figured out that answer.

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That was a part of my even starting the thread. I figured her food would be up his alley once in a while. Does he criticize the show "Down Home with the Negleys"? They seem to make the same home southern/soul food stuff that can't be great for you in mass quantities. Oops I figured out that answer.


Yes.

He trashed The Neelys.

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That was a part of my even starting the thread. I figured her food would be up his alley once in a while. Does he criticize the show "Down Home with the Negleys"? They seem to make the same home southern/soul food stuff that can't be great for you in mass quantities. Oops I figured out that answer.


Yes.

He trashed The Neelys.


Good I will stand corrected then. I'm a stand up guy. 8)

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It's not just a question of subtlety. It's also a matter of actively hating people like Paula Deen, of making them figures of public scorn, of openly espousing an "enlightened" form of cosmopolitan behavior--but then supporting political platforms that ensure ongoing racial oppression.

One example of this would be the War on Crime that Nixon championed during his administration and that has continued with varying degrees of intensity through the present. Effectively this was a reactionary social program that was launched in response to a combination of black radicalism and despair following the assassination of MLK. Rather than engaging the root causes of black urban rebellion (deindustrialization, high unemployment, poor education, etc) Nixon and his cronies instituted a federally-funded program of mass surveillance and incarceration to be carried out by local law enforcement across the U.S. From this perspective, the burgeoning penitentiary system in the U.S. is thus nothing other than a white supremacist response to black discontent with racial inequality. It was/is a systematic strategy for curbing black political activity. Part of the success of this program, however, can be accounted for by examining the racially neutral language used to promote it. In the Antebellum era or Jim Crow South authorities deliberately used racially charged language to unite white populations against the "threat" of black crime or unrest. In the neoliberal era, systematic surveillance and incarceration of urban blacks is carried out through the use of a language of "safety," "security" and "family protection." This discourse makes it "safe" for multicultural racists to espouse a hatred for "redneck" racism while still supporting an agenda of racial domination.


Another would be a guy professing shock and horror at a public figure's use of racial epithets while gleefully embracing the most pernicious aspects of neoliberalism; e.g., the aforementioned proposal that the best solution to urban crime is for all the poors to move somewhere else.

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Is there any evidence that Berns dislikes balcks, or are you all just making an assumption because he is Jewish, grew up in Deerield, & attended Duke?


I don't think he dislikes blacks. I think he believes he is their superior.

I think he believes he is superior to every race.

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I know this an angle not many are taking, but I think he is also somewhat offended by the type of food she is known for. I think Bernsy thinks he is above "southern home cookin." Before he ever heard Paula Deen speak, I guarantee you he thought he was better than her simply by his food choices as opposed to hers.

Yeah, but Dan will gleefully talk about his gluttonous Waffle House exploits, or Carolina barbecue shacks.


Or worse yet, his love of McGangbangs.


Dan Bernstein likes progressive nutrition when it suits him. He will tell you in the same breath that Paula Deen is a leech who sucks the money out of her audience by exhibiting food that gives diabetes while also bragging about the ability to eat 10 McDonald's cheeseburgers. This is objective fact.


To be fair Dan isn't hawking diabetus medication at the same time he brags about this, though I'm sure he might if the price was right.

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It's not just a question of subtlety. It's also a matter of actively hating people like Paula Deen, of making them figures of public scorn, of openly espousing an "enlightened" form of cosmopolitan behavior--but then supporting political platforms that ensure ongoing racial oppression.

One example of this would be the War on Crime that Nixon championed during his administration and that has continued with varying degrees of intensity through the present. Effectively this was a reactionary social program that was launched in response to a combination of black radicalism and despair following the assassination of MLK. Rather than engaging the root causes of black urban rebellion (deindustrialization, high unemployment, poor education, etc) Nixon and his cronies instituted a federally-funded program of mass surveillance and incarceration to be carried out by local law enforcement across the U.S. From this perspective, the burgeoning penitentiary system in the U.S. is thus nothing other than a white supremacist response to black discontent with racial inequality. It was/is a systematic strategy for curbing black political activity. Part of the success of this program, however, can be accounted for by examining the racially neutral language used to promote it. In the Antebellum era or Jim Crow South authorities deliberately used racially charged language to unite white populations against the "threat" of black crime or unrest. In the neoliberal era, systematic surveillance and incarceration of urban blacks is carried out through the use of a language of "safety," "security" and "family protection." This discourse makes it "safe" for multicultural racists to espouse a hatred for "redneck" racism while still supporting an agenda of racial domination.


Another would be a guy professing shock and horror at a public figure's use of racial epithets while gleefully embracing the most pernicious aspects of neoliberalism; e.g., the aforementioned proposal that the best solution to urban crime is for all the poors to move somewhere else.


God help us if Dan ever discovers reddit.

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Is there any evidence that Berns dislikes balcks, or are you all just making an assumption because he is Jewish, grew up in Deerield, & attended Duke?


I don't think he dislikes blacks. I think he believes he is their superior.

I think he believes he is superior to every race.

Ralph, just stop. It's game over for Bernsie.


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Is there any evidence that Berns dislikes balcks, or are you all just making an assumption because he is Jewish, grew up in Deerield, & attended Duke?


I don't think he dislikes blacks. I think he believes he is their superior.

I think he believes he is superior to every race.

Ralph, just stop. It's game over for Bernsie.

Keep telling yourself that Anus.

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Is there any evidence that Berns dislikes balcks, or are you all just making an assumption because he is Jewish, grew up in Deerield, & attended Duke?


I don't think he dislikes blacks. I think he believes he is their superior.

I think he believes he is superior to every race.


I disagree. He thinks he is suprerior to every person individually but not in any particular collection of people

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dolphin, what is your full take on this?

I believe Bernstein has bigoted beliefs.

Jews- Intelligent businessmen who dont NEED to do anything physical.
Irish-Italian-German decent- Idiot blue collar workers.
Asians- Math
Blacks- Athletes. Bred for it.


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