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I don't even understand what Dan's trying to argue. What does it mean to appreciate this win as an individual? I think that's pretty much what happens any time you derive enjoyment from anything. I get parts of his column from today

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The dumbest people among us are clogging local sporting-goods stores looking for cheaply-made hats and shirts to validate their connection to victory, while the rest are content to revel in the kind of contentedness that comes with waking up knowing your team was the successful one.


This makes sense but may be a bit of projection on his part. I wouldn't say that all the people buying memorabilia are trying to "validate their connection to victory" but there is an argument to be made that the dumbest among us are doing this. I'm okay with not having to buy stuff to know that the Blackhawks are the best team in the NHL.

But then he goes and does this:

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Take note of this fleeting emotional oasis, appreciate it, and understand that this – right now — is the real payoff.


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Nothing replaces or approximates this — the unshared time when the feeling is all yours, not diffused over block after block of red sweaters, not beamed to every last outpost, not yet entirely commoditized, packaged and sold.


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Don’t let this brief time pass without really savoring it and banking it away somewhere. It’s far more important than whatever plastic baubles that will soon be gathering dust or clothing that will soon fade, and be relegated unwittingly over time to the back of a drawer.


He keeps referring to "it" and "this" as the individual joy you experience from knowing that your team won but never explains what that feeling is. It just is he says. A kind of kicking your feet up and thinking what exactly? I don't know because he doesn't say. And then he goes on to essentially throw away his entire premise:

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Allegiance to a pro sports team does allow for important social connection to a larger whole, both in the arena itself and beyond, across generations. That creation of community is real, and not to be diminished.


This wouldn't be so bad hadn't just spent the previous 12 paragraphs doing exactly that. And once he does that closes with the same cryptic message from before:

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Make sure you carve out just enough of this rare chance to make part of it always belong to you, alone.


So what are we supposed to take away from this column? That sports are communal but don't ever forget that one time you sat alone in your house and realized that one team is better than all the other teams? It reads like he was on the cusp of making a poetic statement about the nature of sports fandom but it comes off as clumsy and inscrutable. Maybe that's a result of the fact that the column was written in a matter of hours but if someone wants to help parse meaning out this for me, I would be grateful.

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Alright.

Now the callers are screened in to agree. Some things never change.

Why the over-thinking of this? Well, I guess that's rhetorical. It's a way to separate himself from the slobbering masses of mouth breathers that didn't attend Duke, don't have a super-genius son and all that crap. His house must be surrounded by 30 ft tall walls and constructed out of ivory.

He knows nothing about hockey or sports in general so he wants to put it through some sort of psychological gobbledygook prism to sound profound, deep and intelligent. Like he's really delving into society's structure, it's soul, it's core...and explaining it to us idiots in ways we can understand. Because we just don't know anything and need to be instructed.

Well, this was a short lived reentry back into 1-6pm on THE SCORE.

I think I may light my pee pee on fire and listen to Waddle and Silvy.


I'm holding out one more segment.


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One of the greatest experiences of my life as a sports fan was attending the A.J. Pierzynski "dropped" third strike game during the 2005 ALCS. When the Sox snatched victory from the jaws of defeat, the whole stadium erupted. People were high-fiving and hugging in the stands. It was a moment of unadulterated joy on a massive scale. No moment of private contemplation could ever equal that.


How provincial of you.

I'm picturing Midget whipping his ascot around overhead and yell-quoting the Saint Crispin's Day speech from Henry V.


"Oh, yes. Shake it, madam. Capital knockers."

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"It is absolutely critical that you as a Blackhawks fan store this moment away and savor it...The feeling you have is just yours."

"It's not about group celebrations or civic parades."

There ya go. Reality is at its most real when experience is privatized in accordance with the values of the professional-managerial elite and neoliberal orthodoxy.

Fuck collective identity.



I much prefer the days when I thoroughly enjoy Tall Midget posts.

I'd like to think the feeling is mutual, but I have serious doubts that I've been able to provide my end of the equation ... :lol:


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Am I allowed to like this one better because now its 2 in four years and its starting to feel like the beginning of a dynasty? Or do I have to like the first one more? Please tell me Dan. Oops, you already did.


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Don Tiny wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
"It is absolutely critical that you as a Blackhawks fan store this moment away and savor it...The feeling you have is just yours."

"It's not about group celebrations or civic parades."

There ya go. Reality is at its most real when experience is privatized in accordance with the values of the professional-managerial elite and neoliberal orthodoxy.

Fuck collective identity.



I much prefer the days when I thoroughly enjoy Tall Midget posts.

I'd like to think the feeling is mutual, but I have serious doubts that I've been able to provide my end of the equation ... :lol:


Who are you?


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I'm picturing Midget whipping his ascot around overhead and yell-quoting the Saint Crispin's Day speech from Henry V.


"Oh, yes. Shake it, madam. Capital knockers."

"Na na na na. Na na na na. Hey, hey. Au revoir."


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys are killing me.

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Dan is saying this one doesn't mean as much? Didn't he write a whole column about why this one means more because of how it will bring the fanbase together and get over the resentment of bandwagon fans? OH MY GOD WHY DO I EVEN CARE?

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Time - Earlier today


Dr. Ken - Hello children, until the emancipation order is finalized, I'm your father, Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

Children - Yes. We've been briefed.

Dr. Ken - What are you up to?

Children - We're going out to celebrate the Blackhawks win.

Dr. Ken - NO! Don't do that! Listen, there something that Dan....

Children - Oh, for Christ's sake....

Dr. Ken - ...Bernstein wants me to talk with you about.

Children - Do we have to do this now?

Dr. Ken - I'm afraid so. You see, before you go out and celebrate with the masses, it's important for you to take some time and really think about this title.

Children - We've thought about it. I even saw some highlight of some game...or something....somewhere...I think it was the Hawks...it was on ice...or grass....

Dr. Ken - No, no, listen - you need to reflect on what this title means to you...as an individual....plural individuals....

Children - We just want to get drunk.

Dr. Ken - YOU'RE 12!

Children - We won't do any drugs.

Dr. Ken - That...what?...

Children - Not right away, anyway. Listen Dr. Kenneth Noisewater, we totally get what Dan Bernstein is trying to say.

Dr. Ken - You do?

Children - No, not really. Do you?

Dr. Ken - Not exactly. But he said it in that super-serious voice so it sounded important.

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Dr. Ken - You do that?

Children - No, of course not. That was a joke.

Dr. Ken - I don't even remember why I'm here. I should go.

Children - Sounds great. See you in court!

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:lol: I am dying! Hahahaha!

Dan has told me that some of us are not self aware enough to enjoy championships. I knew i was doing something wrong before...


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This show is absolutely, fucking, brutal.

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This show is absolutely, fucking, brutal.

:lol: What's pissing me off its getting into the "train wreck" bad stage where I can't leave it. However, I feel that Silvy may have more Blackhawks content on his show today where...now get this...I might be able to continue to soak in this championship better.


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I don't even understand what Dan's trying to argue. What does it mean to appreciate this win as an individual? I think that's pretty much what happens any time you derive enjoyment from anything. I get parts of his column from today

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The dumbest people among us are clogging local sporting-goods stores looking for cheaply-made hats and shirts to validate their connection to victory, while the rest are content to revel in the kind of contentedness that comes with waking up knowing your team was the successful one.


This makes sense but may be a bit of projection on his part. I wouldn't say that all the people buying memorabilia are trying to "validate their connection to victory" but there is an argument to be made that the dumbest among us are doing this. I'm okay with not having to buy stuff to know that the Blackhawks are the best team in the NHL.


If I see a teams t-shirt, sweatshirt, or hat (championship themed or otherwise) that I thinks looks cool, I'll buy it. Because I think it looks cool. Not because I am trying to validate my connection to victory.

I think it's the same for a lot of people.


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Dan has told me that some of us are not self aware enough to enjoy championships. I knew i was doing something wrong before...


Dan has become a random phrase generator that glitches and spits out gibberish. "Hawks fans lack the self-awareness to enjoy a championship" might as well be "how does this get you closer to telling Ethan Skolnick that racism in hockey is a bit?"

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This show is absolutely, fucking, brutal.



This thread, however, is being sent to the Broadcast Radio Hall of Fame.

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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
This show is absolutely, fucking, brutal.

:lol: What's pissing me off its getting into the "train wreck" bad stage where I can't leave it. However, I feel that Silvy may have more Blackhawks content on his show today where...now get this...I might be able to continue to soak in this championship better.


They're going to have the coach of the team that won the Stanley Cup on their show. Sounds fucked up to me but, just out of morbid curiosity, I'll tune in.


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Big.BOY.POSTING by Dr. Kenneth Esquire. Nice work.


Also, it seems that BernSTINE isn't even going to talk about the Blackhawk's, the game, the playoffs, next year, the players, the awards or anything related to hockey during this show....no, no, no. It's going to be all about lecturing us on how to enjoy the win, how to be good fans, how not be dirty bottom feeding, food stamp using lower class peons by skipping the celebration of the win with fellow plebes. This is how he raises his son, I know it.

BIG.BOY.NARRATIVE.

THEY HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE GAME, the team, the Bruins, the playoffs.....WTF?! This is Dan BernSTINE radio, through and through.

This leads to, BIG.BOY.PTFB, Maybe Waddle and Silvy will actually talk about the Blackhawks and their Stanley Cup victory....one can dream.


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The strangest part of Dan's stance seems to be that we should all take the time to enjoy the experience of the time after a title is won but we should also not find enjoyment for the season in general because a season is not a success unless it ends in a title.

If it's so important to live in the moment, then why not live in the moment more than once every few years when Chicago wins another title.

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This is radio bizarro world: Laurence is all GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY BELUSHI and I can't help but think "you first." But secondly Dan is gate keeping fandom trying to tell us and Dr. Ken's kids how to feel/think re: this championship and since his larger talking point of CHAMPIONSHIPS OR NOTHING is on display he's letting his usual bugaboos slide. How das he not tear the caller with the long suffering 7+4 year old kids get away with saying his kids exclaimed WE WIB THE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!! SERIOUSLY: THIS IS A TIME WHERE PARENTING IS PARAMOUNT AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE RARE OPPORTUNITY TO PARENT DURING A CHAMPIONSHIP AND YOU NEES TO TELL THOSE KIDS DIDN'T WIN ANYTHING AS THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS WON A TIE WHILE TGEU WON A 1HR EXTENSION ON BEDTIME THANKS TO THE FESTIVITIES!!!!!!!

I am disappointed that Dan isn't holding fast to his ideals and using the extremity of the title to get everyone parenting the right way vis establishing the disconnect between fans and team. Quoteth bill Maher "you're not on the team, the team is a bunch of black guys who'd hate you if they knew you. You are a machine for turning beer into piss"

Smh.... at least there was just an AT SCHMUTZIE UNDERSCORE email to bring some resemblance of sanirt back to the airwaves.

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:salut: I'm out guys. Can't do this anymore.


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SomeGuy is right in that today's show is there for the voice of the fans, Dan Bernstein, to stand tall (for once) and reward good fsms who know what they're celebrating in the right way. The station that used to boast being our voice is no more as Dan is the voice of the fans and its his job to tell us what to think. That's why I'm so disappointed that the caller with the kids got away with letting the kids say that WE won. You have to use these opportunities to parent correctly otherwise you'll raise two meatballs who think there's a connection between themselves and the team. Thereisn't. Shane on dDan for not having a championship standard in social conditioning and letting stupidity ride through his airwaves. Such lazy sloppiness does not get you closer to a championship.

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Why wasn't Leary "enjoying the moment" rather than snapping a photo with Cheryl Scott? WYC.

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Shame on Dan for not having a championship standard in social conditioning

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SomeGuy is right in that today's show is there for the voice of the fans, Dan Bernstein, to stand tall (for once) and reward good fsms who know what they're celebrating in the right way. The station that used to boast being our voice is no more as Dan is the voice of the fans and its his job to tell us what to think. That's why I'm so disappointed that the caller with the kids got away with letting the kids say that WE won. You have to use these opportunities to parent correctly otherwise you'll raise two meatballs who think there's a connection between themselves and the team. Thereisn't. Shane on dDan for not having a championship standard in social conditioning and letting stupidity ride through his airwaves. Such lazy sloppiness does not get you closer to a championship.


That's a good post, Sini.

This should be a glorious time for the city of Chicago and 'Hawks fans, it's as simple as that. It's the fun and community that is organized sports, in general. Sports talk radio is a perfect avenue to take that fun, enjoyment and sense of community and amplify it to include as many people as possible. That's what The Score used to be about. It's sports, it's supposed to be fun, to say "WE," to go to games and high five strangers, to get pissed, fire and passion and all of that...it shouldn't be put on some ultra serious pedestal, broken down into distinct pieces and after that do the same to BEING A FAN. It isn't complicated, it isn't supposed to be. All of this from a guy that is always telling the listener that sports are meaningless and shouldn't be taken seriously, "WHY.DO.YOU.CARE?!?!!?!" is a common refrain...yet we are all supposed to bow our heads and listen intently to BernSTINE'S lessons in fandom.

Yet here we are, in 2013 and The Score has changed, it's now BernSTINE'S operation, through and through. Don't have fun, don't care, don't high five, don't celebrate at the bar...no, leave your barstool and go out to your car and sit there for 4 hours to "not let the sun set." If you have fun and jump up and down, yell, high five and buy a hat....YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. Why? Because Dan BernSTINE: Arbiter of Fandom, said so. And after the Stanley Cup is hoisted he isn't even going to discuss it, the game, the playoffs or have anyone of consequence on to discuss it...because it isn't a big deal. What is a big deal is how you should be properly acting after the victory, that's the big point.

Mac is too tired and, I fear, too cowardly to fight back, that or he is taking his time, planning, plotting and scheming to get his proper time slot back and thus take back the Score from the douchebags. If that's the case, Mac, I salute you and I will be there with you, always.

Mac, please hurry.


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SomeGuy is right in that today's show is there for the voice of the fans, Dan Bernstein, to stand tall (for once) and reward good fsms who know what they're celebrating in the right way. The station that used to boast being our voice is no more as Dan is the voice of the fans and its his job to tell us what to think. That's why I'm so disappointed that the caller with the kids got away with letting the kids say that WE won. You have to use these opportunities to parent correctly otherwise you'll raise two meatballs who think there's a connection between themselves and the team. Thereisn't. Shane on dDan for not having a championship standard in social conditioning and letting stupidity ride through his airwaves. Such lazy sloppiness does not get you closer to a championship.


That's a good post, Sini.

This should be a glorious time for the city of Chicago and 'Hawks fans, it's as simple as that. It's the fun and community that is organized sports, in general. Sports talk radio is a perfect avenue to take that fun, enjoyment and sense of community and amplify it to include as many people as possible. That's what The Score used to be about. It's sports, it's supposed to be fun, to say "WE," to go to games and high five strangers, to get pissed, fire and passion and all of that...it shouldn't be put on some ultra serious pedestal, broken down into distinct pieces and after that do the same to BEING A FAN. It isn't complicated, it isn't supposed to be. All of this from a guy that is always telling the listener that sports are meaningless and shouldn't be taken seriously, "WHY.DO.YOU.CARE?!?!!?!" is a common refrain...yet we are all supposed to bow our heads and listen intently to BernSTINE'S lessons in fandom.

Yet here we are, in 2013 and The Score has changed, it's now BernSTINE'S operation, through and through. Don't have fun, don't care, don't high five, don't celebrate at the bar...no, leave your barstool and go out to your car and sit there for 4 hours to "not let the sun set." If you have fun and jump up and down, yell, high five and buy a hat....YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. Why? Because Dan BernSTINE: Arbiter of Fandom, said so. And after the Stanley Cup is hoisted he isn't even going to discuss it, the game, the playoffs or have anyone of consequence on to discuss it...because it isn't a big deal. What is a big deal is how you should be properly acting after the victory, that's the big point.

Mac is too tired and, I fear, too cowardly to fight back, that or he is taking his time, planning, plotting and scheming to get his proper time slot back and thus take back the Score from the douchebags. If that's the case, Mac, I salute you and I will be there with you, always.

Mac, please hurry.


Great posts. The important thing on which to focus isn't the event, but how one reacts to the event. Dan Bernstein is the sports radio equivalent of the NSA. He's got his ear to the ground as he watches us through his infrared binoculars, monitoring our every waking thought to ensure that our celebrations of the Blackhawks' victory adheres to the exalted standards of elite society.

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Worst show on radio, but longest show thread today.

Interesting...

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One of the greatest experiences of my life as a sports fan was attending the A.J. Pierzynski "dropped" third strike game during the 2005 ALCS. When the Sox snatched victory from the jaws of defeat, the whole stadium erupted. People were high-fiving and hugging in the stands. It was a moment of unadulterated joy on a massive scale. No moment of private contemplation could ever equal that.

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Worst show on radio, but longest show thread today.

Interesting...


It did get off to a spectacular start...


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How much introspection to "savor the feeling" can one person have? The same person, who five years ago, said famously to caller Ann, "I don't like hockey either".

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