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The Cubs have a lefty reliever in AA who has been lights out this season. They have some other lefty starters that have been effective and could be moved to the pen. I think they are driving up the price. You only need 1 of these guys and 1 in the wings.

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I wonder what it will take along with Gregg to get Crosby away from Detroit. I would give them DeJesus over Nasty Nate and close that deal in a second.

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The Braves are "among the many teams expected to show interest in Cubs closer Kevin Gregg," writes MLB.com's Mark Bowman. Bowman notes that the righty closed for current Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez when both were with the Marlins in 2007-08. Gregg is just one of many relievers the Braves may be looking at as they pursue veteran help with Eric O'Flaherty and Jonny Venters out for the season.

Gregg, 35, has become an unlikely asset for the Cubs, returning to their closer role and posting a 1.42 ERA, 9.2 K/9, 2.5 BB/9, 0.71 HR/9, and 36.5% groundball rate in 25 1/3 innings. He's proof of the volatility of relievers. In March, ESPN Los Angeles' Mark Saxon wrote that Gregg "quietly stewed" over the fact that he couldn't find a Major League deal in the offseason coming off a 2012 campaign in which he posted a 4.95 ERA and 1.5 K/BB ratio in 43 2/3 frames for the Orioles. He signed a minor league deal with the Dodgers, who couldn't find a spot on their big league pitching staff due to their starter surplus and released him. He then signed a minor league deal with the Cubs, who selected his contract in a mid-April bullpen shakeup.

It's a little early for a clear picture of Gregg's market, but the Braves, Reds, Red Sox, Tigers, and Padres are likely to be on the hunt for bullpen help. The Cubs and Braves hooked up on a notable trade near the deadline last year, with Chicago shipping veterans Paul Maholm and Reed Johnson to Atlanta for prospects Arodys Vizcaino and Jaye Chapman.

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Cubs righthander Matt Garza, who may be the best active pitcher currently available in trade, is drawing considerable interest from both leagues and both coasts.

The Orioles, Rangers, Giants, Padres and Dodgers are all said by sources to have varying degrees of interest, with the Red Sox, Blue Jays and several others seen as possibilities.

Garza and Marlins ace Ricky Nolasco are the top two active starters on the trade market. But Garza's one edge is that he's had success in the American League, too.

Chicago looks like it's going to be the Merchandise Mart of cities this trade deadline, with the Cubs now joining the White Sox as early sellers, Garza – who is battled-tested in the tough A.L. East, not to mention very hot at the moment – at the heart of their trade talks.

Folks who have talked to the Cubs say they determined that Garza will surely go for two reasons: 1) Cubs people are taking a very realistic approach to their team and understand they aren't a contender, especially in the formidable N.L. Central, and 2) they realized awhile go that there's no long-term deal to be made with the free-agent-to-be Garza, in fact as far back as two springs ago when multiyear talks never got traction.

Garza is cooperating nicely on the field, as he has pitched brilliantly lately, having allowed just three earned runs in his last three starts over 22 innings. Overall, he is 3-1 with a 3.83 ERA, 1.16 WHIP and 47 strikeouts against just 15 walks. His $10.25 million salary looks pretty reasonable.

The Cubs have quite a smorgasbord of available players, and according to one rival GM all among starter Scott Feldman, outfielders Nate Schierholtz, David DeJesus and Alfonso Soriano and relievers Kevin Gregg and Shawn Camp are also out there. They've also gotten hits on lefty reliever James Russell.

But as far as the Cubs go, Garza looks like the star du jour. He's put concerns abut his arm to the side with very strong performances since his return from the disabled list.

The Rangers, who have had interest in Garza before, are pitching well but had been hoping to get Colby Lewis back this month, and that isn't going to happen now.

The Orioles are seeking a veteran starter, and while they seemed lukewarm on Garza originally, he's enhanced his status with everyone with his recent outings. He beat the Brewers 7-2 Thursday, striking out 10 in seven innings.

All the N.L. West teams are looking for starting pitching, with the Padres, Giants and Dodgers connected to Garza so far, though at least Los Angeles seems to be more in the mix for Nolasco.

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who in their right mind wants Shawn Camp?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:17 am 
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Why are the Cubs not looking to sign Garza?

Fuck, you gave long term money to Edwin Jackson because he was young enough to be there when the winning started. Here you have Garza in house.

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Fuck, you gave long term money to Edwin Jackson because he was young enough to be there when the winning started. Here you have Garza in house.

That is not why they signed Jackson.

Come on dolphin, you are better than this.

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Fuck, you gave long term money to Edwin Jackson because he was young enough to be there when the winning started. Here you have Garza in house.

That is not why they signed Jackson.

Come on dolphin, you are better than this.


Right,they signed him because they mistakenly "flipped" Paul Maholm the season before.

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oh jimmy jimmy jimmy. Your irrational love for guys like Maholm and Keppinger is something. Don't ever change.

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RFDC wrote:
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Fuck, you gave long term money to Edwin Jackson because he was young enough to be there when the winning started. Here you have Garza in house.

That is not why they signed Jackson.

Come on dolphin, you are better than this.


No, I think that was a stated reason at the time of the signing. They certainly didn't sign him for today, when they knew they would lose. He and Sanchez both fit the mix of still being in their 20s while being a reliable quantity in terms of production so that when they were good, either could top their rotation.

I could probably pull up quotes if I gave a fart.

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Fuck, you gave long term money to Edwin Jackson because he was young enough to be there when the winning started. Here you have Garza in house.

That is not why they signed Jackson.

Come on dolphin, you are better than this.


No, I think that was a stated reason at the time of the signing. They certainly didn't sign him for today, when they knew they would lose. He and Sanchez both fit the mix of still being in their 20s while being a reliable quantity in terms of production so that when they were good, either could top their rotation.

I could probably pull up quotes if I gave a fart.

Yes because the "stated" reason is always the reason.

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Cubs Rumor Thread: Cubs scouting Jays, Nats heavily -- both teams saw Garza's dominant start

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RFDC wrote:
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Fuck, you gave long term money to Edwin Jackson because he was young enough to be there when the winning started. Here you have Garza in house.

That is not why they signed Jackson.

Come on dolphin, you are better than this.


No, I think that was a stated reason at the time of the signing. They certainly didn't sign him for today, when they knew they would lose. He and Sanchez both fit the mix of still being in their 20s while being a reliable quantity in terms of production so that when they were good, either could top their rotation.

I could probably pull up quotes if I gave a fart.

Yes because the "stated" reason is always the reason.

Good call.


Then what is the reason? Do you think they threw down 13 million for him to eat innings for a team that will lose 90+ games?

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Then what is the reason? Do you think they threw down 13 million for him to eat innings for a team that will lose 90+ games?


You really are struggling lately. It is like watching Jordan in a Wizards uniform.

They signed him to eat some innings for awhile and then be flipped for a couple prospects.

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They signed him to eat some innings for awhile and then be flipped for a couple prospects.
If that is the real reason, that is flat out stupid. They could have spent a LOT less money to get somebody to do that.

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Then what is the reason? Do you think they threw down 13 million for him to eat innings for a team that will lose 90+ games?


You really are struggling lately. It is like watching Jordan in a Wizards uniform.

They signed him to eat some innings for awhile and then be flipped for a couple prospects.


Oh, now it is all so logical, the old "flip him for prospects" mantra. Except, you will have spent 39+ million by that time when you could have spent less than half of that on pitchers for one year deals...and Edwin Jackson is running out of people who haven't tired of his work and into his 30s by then.

Committing 52 million to a player is not a flip him for prospects contract.

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They overpaid an innings eater. That's the whole story. TheoJed screwed the pooch on that one.

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The Cubs will be extremely lucky if Jackson puts himself into a position to be flipped for prospects.

They could have continued to sign the Scott Feldmans of the world to 1 or 2 year deals and they would have performed equal to what Jackson will give the Cubs.

Stupid signing at the time and now looks even worse.


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Note to RFDC: Paul Maholm is 8-6 with a 3.86 ERA. 91 IP 91 hit with a great K to W ratio.


Your Wrong, I'm right. Theo over flipped last year. There was no point in flipping a guy signed for 2 years who eats innings and pitches well.

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Note to RFDC: Paul Maholm is 8-6 with a 3.86 ERA. 91 IP 91 hit with a great K to W ratio.


Your Wrong, I'm right. Theo over flipped last year. There was no point in flipping a guy signed for 2 years who eats innings and pitches well.

Of course there was a point to flipping Maholm. In the Cubs situation you trade everyone you possibly can in order to rebuild for the future. Having Maholm right now would not do anything for them.

You develop these man crushes on certain guys and cannot see reason.

Hey Keppinger hit a Homerun tonight, I am sure that makes you happy.

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Just as there is no point in overpaying for an innings eater after trading an innings eater the previous year who made waaay less in salary. What's that line of thinking all about?

Maholm 74-90 4.23 ERA 6.5 million this year
Jackson 73-81 4.49 ERA 13 million this year and for the next 3 years.

They basically signed a guy for double of what the guy they traded was making. They traded Maholm for a guy who's currently out for the season and for a guy who's pitched 6 innings and given up 12 runs.

The issue isn't about a man crush. It's about a stupid baseball and business decision. Epstoyer spend the 1st 2 years of their regime getting rid of bad money to turn around and give their 1st big contract.......to Edwin Jackson?


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Never understood the Jackson signing at all. Why give big money to a journeyman starter? It made no sense then or now.


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Marmol traded to the Dodgers? Dodgers are nuts.


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Marmol traded to the Dodgers? Dodgers are nuts.

For what?? fucking broke dick out for the season Beckett??

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This could get even better!!!!! Marmol can still invoke his Hendry Special No Trade Clause so he could become a free agent.

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It's really too bad management forced hendry into all these shitty deals.


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God damn Sappelt is going to be the one called up tomorrow. Why??????????? He is terrible. Jed and Theo are really wearing on my nerves with their handling of this roster.

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I'm pretty sure I just heard Theo say Marmol would get a change of scenery for a player that would get a change of scenery. But nothing is done yet. I heard this on the David Kaplan Show, 7-11 weeknights on WGN.

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