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What was Dan like on the air when the White Sox won?

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST BERNSTEIN, STOP HYPHENATING PHRASAL ADJECTIVES IN WHICH THE FIRST WORD ENDS IN -LY.


That's one of the most enjoyable sentences I've ever stopped to read in its entirety.

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST BERNSTEIN, STOP HYPHENATING PHRASAL ADJECTIVES IN WHICH THE FIRST WORD ENDS IN -LY.


Without that hyphen, the reader may not read it in their Big.Boy.Voice.

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Irish Boy wrote:
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST BERNSTEIN, STOP HYPHENATING PHRASAL ADJECTIVES IN WHICH THE FIRST WORD ENDS IN -LY.


Without that hyphen, the reader may not read it in their Big.Boy.Voice.


Irish Boy sure is surly-assed today.

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What was Dan like on the air when the White Sox won?


He was thrilled that a Jewish billionaire added a baseball to his list of assets.

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Haha. I'm serious, though. I know he said he cried in private. But was he excited on the show? Did he allow himself and others to be excited? Or did he caution everyone not to watch the sunset through a camera (though to be fair, this pseudo-profundity came from and could only come from Leery) and have good manners on the Metra? And did he really, even then, mention how great the thing with the ball was?

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Haha. I'm serious, though. I know he said he cried in private. But was he excited on the show? Did he allow himself and others to be excited? Or did he caution everyone not to watch the sunset through a camera (though to be fair, this pseudo-profundity came from and could only come from Leery) and have good manners on the Metra? And did he really, even then, mention how great the thing with the ball was?


Honestly, I can't remember. I do remember Laurence saying he stayed up all night with a bottle of Champagne. (It was probably just sparkling wine.) I do remember dan hand-wringing about how the Sox were going to blow it in '05 even though they looked like a dominant team all year and even that bump at the end is remembered wrong. The Sox weren't terrible, just a game or two under .500 for a few weeks and Cleveland was playing at an .800 clip or something crazy.

But I was thinking about something when I read that column. I don't want to excuse these guys for their idiocy on the airwaves, but it's got to be hard to talk about anything for five hours everyday. Reading bernstein's column, I realized that he doesn't follow the season the way a normal fan does because of his job. I don't think regular fans go through so much angst the way these guys do on the radio. You may go through such angst if you take the hosts seriously though. But for most of us, I think it's like this: You hope your team is good every year. Usually it isn't. Sometimes it is. And once in awhile you win a championship. I think that will be true even of the Cubs eventually.

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Laurence went on that night and just took calls from fans.

It was a nice listen.

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Honestly, I can't remember. I do remember Laurence saying he stayed up all night with a bottle of Champagne. (It was probably just sparkling wine.)


Leery Arbuckle.

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"...It's a piece of metal..." :roll:

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"...It's a piece of metal..." :roll:


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Now this fucking jagoff is railing against the cup trophy & the excitement surrounding it.

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I would side with Spiegel in the "most coveted" trophy argument. You always hear players say they dreamed about holding the Stanley Cup as children. You don't hear MLB players say it was always their dream to hold the Commissioner's Cup. Maybe the Lombardi would rival the Stanley. O'Brien or whatever the NBA trophy is called, bah.

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"...It's a piece of metal..." :roll:


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"...It's a piece of metal..." :roll:


Hey Dan, you know that food you enjoy so much is really nothing more than a conduit for enabling cellular respiration and whose only real purpose is to sustain human metabolism. So you can just calm the fuck down about how great it is.

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It's just a piece of metal. They should be dreaming about the increased monetization opportunities a championship confers. #becauseitsrovell

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It's just a piece of metal. They should be dreaming about the increased monetization opportunities a championship confers. #becauseitsrovell


What if Patrick Sharp gave it to Jerry Reinsdorf?

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I missed it but if he said that he is a bigger dick than I had thought. Obviously hockey players do not think so based on the injuries they play with to get it and things they all say. I imagine its very easy for that desire and dedication transfers to fans as love and respect for that piece of metal. Geez. :roll:

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As has already been pointed out in this thread, Bernstein (and other sports writers) get paid to generate page views on their content. I wouldn't be surprised if Bernsie only believes half of the stuff he writes.

Then again, he's been doing this long enough to convince himself to follow a specific "writer persona".

If Bernstein got more readers by being a nice guy meatball, then he'd write in that fashion. Why fix something that isn't broken?


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I missed it but if he said that he is a bigger dick than I had thought. Obviously hockey players do not think so based on the injuries they play with to get it and things they all say. I imagine its very easy for that desire and dedication transfers to fans as love and respect for that piece of metal. Geez. :roll:


He said the Stanley Cup isn't "the most sought after trophy in all of sports" and that an NBA player doesn't care less about winning the Larry O'Brien trophy than a hockey player cares about winning the Stanley Cup.

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pittmike wrote:
I missed it but if he said that he is a bigger dick than I had thought. Obviously hockey players do not think so based on the injuries they play with to get it and things they all say. I imagine its very easy for that desire and dedication transfers to fans as love and respect for that piece of metal. Geez. :roll:


He said the Stanley Cup isn't "the most sought after trophy in all of sports" and that an NBA player doesn't care less about winning the Larry O'Brien trophy than a hockey player cares about winning the Stanley Cup.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
As has already been pointed out in this thread, Bernstein (and other sports writers) get paid to generate page views on their content. I wouldn't be surprised if Bernsie only believes half of the stuff he writes.

Then again, he's been doing this long enough to convince himself to follow a specific "writer persona".

If Bernstein got more readers by being a nice guy meatball, then he'd write in that fashion. Why fix something that isn't broken?


Which is all fine and dandy, except for the fact that he is constantly screaming for transparency and honesty in all things planet Earth, so if he can't do that himself he is nothing but a disingenuous bullshit artist.

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Minooka Meatball wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
As has already been pointed out in this thread, Bernstein (and other sports writers) get paid to generate page views on their content. I wouldn't be surprised if Bernsie only believes half of the stuff he writes.

Then again, he's been doing this long enough to convince himself to follow a specific "writer persona".

If Bernstein got more readers by being a nice guy meatball, then he'd write in that fashion. Why fix something that isn't broken?


Which is all fine and dandy, except for the fact that he is constantly screaming for transparency and honesty in all things planet Earth, so if he can't do that himself he is nothing but a disingenuous bullshit artist.


HE'S. NOT. A. JOURNALIST.

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pittmike wrote:
I missed it but if he said that he is a bigger dick than I had thought. Obviously hockey players do not think so based on the injuries they play with to get it and things they all say. I imagine its very easy for that desire and dedication transfers to fans as love and respect for that piece of metal. Geez. :roll:


He said the Stanley Cup isn't "the most sought after trophy in all of sports" and that an NBA player doesn't care less about winning the Larry O'Brien trophy than a hockey player cares about winning the Stanley Cup.


But Dan has also said that the great thing about football and basketball players is that they're not necessarily fans of their own respective sports, they just happen to play them because they're such big studs that they couldn't not, and so from that, it's reasonable to surmise that there isn't always that same lifelong fixation on winning a specific, time-honored trophy.

Brian Burke claimed that he assembled the '07 Ducks with a heavy emphasis on North American players because they were driven to hoist the Stanley Cup in ways that European players, for whom the North American tradition is more of an abstraction, were not. Now, Brian Burke is notoriously full of shit, and having Getzlaf/Perry/Penner on ELCs so as to afford Selanne, Pronger, and the Niedermayers probably did more for their championship than nationality did, and by 2013 I think Europeans have grown up with enough NHL to want the Stanley Cup just as much themselves, but the anecdote does go to show that there is something about the Stanley Cup that's different, that kids who grow up playing hockey here grow up with this tangible goal in mind in ways that perhaps other players do not. It's the only league final named for its trophy, not the event.

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pittmike wrote:
I missed it but if he said that he is a bigger dick than I had thought. Obviously hockey players do not think so based on the injuries they play with to get it and things they all say. I imagine its very easy for that desire and dedication transfers to fans as love and respect for that piece of metal. Geez. :roll:


He said the Stanley Cup isn't "the most sought after trophy in all of sports" and that an NBA player doesn't care less about winning the Larry O'Brien trophy than a hockey player cares about winning the Stanley Cup.


But Dan has also said that the great thing about football and basketball players is that they're not necessarily fans of their own respective sports, they just happen to play them because they're such big studs that they couldn't not, and so from that, it's reasonable to surmise that there isn't always that same lifelong fixation on winning a specific, time-honored trophy.

Brian Burke claimed that he assembled the '07 Ducks with a heavy emphasis on North American players because they were driven to hoist the Stanley Cup in ways that European players, for whom the North American tradition is more of an abstraction, were not. Now, Brian Burke is notoriously full of shit, and having Getzlaf/Perry/Penner on ELCs so as to afford Selanne, Pronger, and the Niedermayers probably did more for their championship than nationality did, and by 2013 I think Europeans have grown up with enough NHL to want the Stanley Cup just as much themselves, but the anecdote does go to show that there is something about the Stanley Cup that's different, that kids who grow up playing hockey here grow up with this tangible goal in mind in ways that perhaps other players do not. It's the only league final named for its trophy, not the event.



Hossa wanted it so bad he switched to three different teams to get one.

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We can say that in hindsight. We also could have said he went Cup-chasing for a year and then took the big guaranteed money from Chicago instead. Worked out well for him, though.

By the way, it's really absurd that Hossa didn't win the Cup in 2003. That Senators team was loaded. Imagine having had Hossa, Havlat, Chara, Alfredsson, and Spezza together in 2009, plus Ray Emery. They could have gone 16-1.

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Didn't Sens almost win in 2008?

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Didn't Sens almost win in 2008?

They went to the Final in '07 and lost in five to Anaheim. By then, they had traded Hossa to Atlanta for Dany Heatley, who had to get out of town after he got drunk and killed his teammate. Havlat went to Chicago in a three-way trade. I think it involved Philly and Kyle Calder.

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Haha. I'm serious, though. I know he said he cried in private. But was he excited on the show? Did he allow himself and others to be excited? Or did he caution everyone not to watch the sunset through a camera (though to be fair, this pseudo-profundity came from and could only come from Leery) and have good manners on the Metra? And did he really, even then, mention how great the thing with the ball was?


The season started with 4 new players: Japanese import Tadahito Iguchi at 2nd, relative unknown Scott Podsednik in left, former Royal and A's Jermaine Dye in right, and the infamous A.J. Pierzynski as catcher. The closer at the start of the season was Japanese import Shingo Takatsu, and at the end of the season the unknown Bobby Jenks would take that role. Also of note was Juan Uribe at shortstop.

I can't think of a single Sox fan who thought going into the season that a World Series was on tap, particularly with the unknown Podsednik replace the powerful Carlos Lee in left. Dan staked out the early ground of declaring that "no team with Juan Uribe at shortstop could win a World Series."

He may well have cried at the night they won it all because despite faltering at the end of the season (more like Cleveland didn't lose many in the last 40 games) the Sox put on a historic run to the championship going 11-1.

To be fair, I was spent more time listening up the dial as wearing his Sox pride on his sleeve was Dan McNeil, and his show was kicking B&B in the collective noots in all aspects.

Interesting to note was the next season was when DB began to embrace Sabre concepts thus allowing him to take on Sox fan favorites like Aaron Rowand (Fire & Passion are overrated), Scott Podsednik (he will revert to minor league form), as well a decrying Juan Uribe's skill as a shortstop (he would win another ring with the Giants).

It was also when the show took the turn of questioning fans intelligence in thinking a team could challenge and questioning who they proclaimed the next champion.

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Haha. I'm serious, though. I know he said he cried in private. But was he excited on the show? Did he allow himself and others to be excited? Or did he caution everyone not to watch the sunset through a camera (though to be fair, this pseudo-profundity came from and could only come from Leery) and have good manners on the Metra? And did he really, even then, mention how great the thing with the ball was?


The season started with 4 new players: Japanese import Tadahito Iguchi at 2nd, relative unknown Scott Podsednik in left, former Royal and A's Jermaine Dye in right, and the infamous A.J. Pierzynski as catcher. The closer at the start of the season was Japanese import Shingo Takatsu, and at the end of the season the unknown Bobby Jenks would take that role. Also of note was Juan Uribe at shortstop.

I can't think of a single Sox fan who thought going into the season that a World Series was on tap, particularly with the unknown Podsednik replace the powerful Carlos Lee in left. Dan staked out the early ground of declaring that "no team with Juan Uribe at shortstop could win a World Series."

Nicely done.

He may well have cried at the night they won it all because despite faltering at the end of the season (more like Cleveland didn't lose many in the last 40 games) the Sox put on a historic run to the championship going 11-1.

To be fair, I was spent more time listening up the dial as wearing his Sox pride on his sleeve was Dan McNeil, and his show was kicking B&B in the collective noots in all aspects.

Interesting to note was the next season was when DB began to embrace Sabre concepts thus allowing him to take on Sox fan favorites like Aaron Rowand (Fire & Passion are overrated), Scott Podsednik (he will revert to minor league form), as well a decrying Juan Uribe's skill as a shortstop (he would win another ring with the Giants).

It was also when the show took the turn of questioning fans intelligence in thinking a team could challenge and questioning who they proclaimed the next champion.

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