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rogers park bryan
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:47 am 
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Critics like Yeezus better.

Jay not getting a lot of love on this one
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While I really enjoy the album, I wouldn't be surprised if Rick Rubin just ruined Jay Z's momentum.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Critics like Yeezus better.

Jay not getting a lot of love on this one


It seemed like it was personal. Every critic that didn't like Jay-Z's album seemed like they had an axe to grind. You can admire Kanye for taking a risk and knock Jay-z for playing it relatively safe but that doesn't make Kanye's better. His album is really weird all around. Lyrically he even took a couple steps back.

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Weariness with "art" that consists only of glorifying commerce and one's relationship to commerce isn't an ax to grind. The aforementioned isn't art, either.

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Weariness with "art" that consists only of glorifying commerce and one's relationship to commerce isn't an ax to grind. The aforementioned isn't art, either.


Reading many of the reviews that's what I came away with. I think it is lazy to say it was just glorifying his wealth. It was much more than that.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:14 pm 
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If I wanted to rip Jay-Z, Id call him the Adam Sandler of hip hop
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Safe? Plays the same role?

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Nas wrote:
Safe? Plays the same role?

From New York

Talented, even Awesome at times, but mostly makes the stuff the people buy rather than stuff the critics love


Oh and makes all his friends rich
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Safe? Plays the same role?

From New York

Talented, even Awesome at times, but mostly makes the stuff the people buy rather than stuff the critics love


Oh and makes all his friends rich


I know we all want to hear something "fresh" and that's why we love the Kendrick Lamar's of the world but if you were in his position would you take the risk? Personally I would at this point in his career. People will still buy it. Is it a case of him being in a bubble for so long that he's clueless? Does he need a fresh pair of ears or 2 around him. Call Rick Rubin and ask him to do the whole album and bring Puffy in?

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From New York

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You are too kind.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
From New York

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You are too kind.


Are you claiming NY now? New York Rick?

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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
From New York

Talented, even Awesome at times
You are too kind.


Are you claiming NY now? New York Rick?
I'm the new new Sinatra.

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Nas wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Safe? Plays the same role?

From New York

Talented, even Awesome at times, but mostly makes the stuff the people buy rather than stuff the critics love


Oh and makes all his friends rich


I know we all want to hear something "fresh" and that's why we love the Kendrick Lamar's of the world but if you were in his position would you take the risk? Personally I would at this point in his career. People will still buy it. Is it a case of him being in a bubble for so long that he's clueless? Does he need a fresh pair of ears or 2 around him. Call Rick Rubin and ask him to do the whole album and bring Puffy in?

I think you can take a chance every other record and keep the fan base

U2 did that. They changed twice. One worked, one didnt, but they stayed huge.
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
From New York

Talented, even Awesome at times
You are too kind.


Are you claiming NY now? New York Rick?
I'm the new new Sinatra.

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