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 Post subject: Re: Ban Worthy?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:33 pm 
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Not ban worthy imo.

Everyone knows he's trolling.

Why give him the satisfaction of treating his posts as anything more than a joke?


In general that is what I do but there comes a point as a black man that I don't want to be apart of a group where these things are accepted. I'm not saying BF approves of it but it has gone on for years and he continues to push the envelope.


Just put him on ignore; all he is doing is trying to get a response (which he has succeeded in doing). By ignoring him, one less person for you to get upset at and he loses a person likely to respond to his idiotic statements. In this forum, ignoring the stupid will hopefully make them go away.

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Nas wrote:
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Not ban worthy imo.

Everyone knows he's trolling.

Why give him the satisfaction of treating his posts as anything more than a joke?


In general that is what I do but there comes a point as a black man that I don't want to be apart of a group where these things are accepted. I'm not saying BF approves of it but it has gone on for years and he continues to push the envelope.


Well you have several options open to you.: Foe him,read but don't respond or leave.

As Gunny Hightower said:Dont give the prick the satisfaction"

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I'm starting to have a very hard time thinking that Steve can be that racist w/o being from Bridgeport.


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I'm starting to have a very hard time thinking that Steve can be that racist w/o being from Bridgeport.


This fuckin guy..

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 Post subject: Re: Ban Worthy?
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my dad's cousin (idk if that makes him a distant uncle or what) became a cop circa 90-91.... and he was stationed in the west side where some of his early patrols had him working bulls celebrations. he had a cherry bomb blow up his shin early on in the career. he would go on to work vice into more organized crime stuff (mob crap) and eventually nowadays he got off the streets into some sort of forensics or something, as in now he only shows up after the crime has went down. glad he survived.

but i can tell you that by the ~mid-90s, when you were out in the backyard of family gatherings later at night when dad was having shots with them and then they started telling their "real" stories, it was n-word this n-word that and blah blah blah blah blah. working in the westside changed uncle brian, as he literally wasn't afraid to "call a spade a spade" or whatever euphemistic phrase you wanna come up with.

so i can't help but think that having been a cop, steve's along the same lines. since socioeconomic factors are what they are and thus the underclass, with its minority-laden makeup, tends to commit a lot of crimes out of relative/necessity, well, you're prone to have some unflattering throughts when people "stop being formal and start being real" (or whatever that tagline for the real world was)

obviously i'm not excusing steve for his views, but i am perhaps offering an explanation. i mean, when there's a disproportionate # of african americans arrested/jailed/etc, you're dealing with a certain segment of the demographic that isn't all that appealing, and well, no doubt dealing with the lowest of the low over time tainted steve in ways that he'll never completely get over.... and as such, let's be realistic, part of the camaraderie of a bunch of white cops with power dealing with a disproportionate # of minorities = str8up southern-style good ol boy racism. it's pretty much inevitable.

and like, while the whole slavery thing in that post was indeed in poor taste, still, the point he was trying to make about the whole situation, given that he's on record with thinking that trayvon was in the neighborhood "casing" the place looking for spots to rob..... welp man, much like OKC gave me props for when i was in a murder rate thread talking about how there's really a crisis of increasing #s of dumbass people doing dumbass shit going out and compelling people to shoot them over stupid street shit, well, i'm gonna say that in this day and age with the economy slipping and racial tensions artifically ramped up by the media, who is in lockstep with this administration looking for the big picture of disarming americans en masse (hence the constant reporting of gun violence and etc) yeah.... in this day and age you gotta be mindful of stupid consumer programs buying into the artifical dreamworld the television/internet/smartphones/media cooks up convincing everyone that we live in a pressure cooker and shit's sooo dangerous and whatnot, that like, in this day and age with people convinced the world is falling apart and it's utter shit and it's out of control....you see some stereotypical black kid walking around a "well to do" gated community or whatever, and you're gonna have nutjobs like zimmerman running around with hero fantasies wanting to save the neighborhood from that thug.... and yeah it's racism, it's racial profiling.... but it's also happening en masse and while it's not something we should be proud of and it's something to work on over time, still, it's incumbent on trayvon to know that being perceived to look like a stereotypical innercity kid in a ritzy white neighborhood that's GATED (your first clue that the neighborhood thinks it's holier than thou and needs to keep the rest of the world riff raff out) --- i mean, yeah, just like if i looked like a 6-7 figure white guy walking through the rough open-air market innercity areas i might be stereotyped to have $$$ an expensive cellphone, credit cards, a nice car.... and therefore i'm worth jumping/robbing..... at the same time, it aint like these "upper middle class white people's" shit dont stank so they're gonna have the same proclivities.... and it's between god and potential CCTV security camera footage what went down..... but like, beneath all of the racism/racebaiting/trolling/inciendary-stuff-said-EXPLICITLY-TO-PISS-OFF-NAS-AND-OTHERS, i mean, steve did kind of sort of have a point.... and in a sense he hearkened it back to antebellum times and while it's an ugly history we have... still man, he's speaking of a principle that's exaggerated for incendiary effect.... i mena, shit, he aint 100% wrong.

obviously i'm not advocating segregation or the good ol boys / klan "handling business" --- but steve does reference a historical fact, and he did it in a blunt and ugly way....and it's sad to say that like, with ppl convinced everything is shit the economy is going down and so many people think society is on the verge of collapse.... welp, with that kind of mindset, you almost have to take it back to the antebellum and remember just because they're in big houses in gated communities and with money doesn't mean they're any better than the antebellum people in terms of their prejudice and their insecurities leading to potentially fatal shit..... i mean, yeah.... you know, it sucks to say cuz the african american male is perhaps the most imitated and stylish man amongst the world archetypes.... but quoteth paul mooney on chappelle's show.... "everyone wanna be a nigga but ain't nobody wanna be a nigga" --- and in this case, this falls into the latter... but like, it's sad to say, but with the world the way it is and the media machine making money off of fear and prejudice and outrage.... racism is being put out there so much that when people intrinsically fear for their well being to the point where they have to live in a gated community.... yeah, see one of "them" and have your mind flash through 500 random images of rap videos, hedonism, and every negative stereotype of american americans purveyed by mass media for whatever means.... and yeah, i mean, trayvon's gotta know what he's getting himself into. and i ain't saying that he should take heed of the ominous warning elmhurst $teve put out there cuz that's a bit intimidating..... but at the same time, you gotta take responsibility for your actions.... and no matter what he was doing, trayvon put himself in a situation where this happened. you gotta be better than that.


so yeah, nas, i mean..... this is the dirty side of free speech. i know that steve's trying to piss you off and fan the flames here and he's almost got a personal race-baiting vendetta against black people like he came home early one day to catch his now-ex-wife in bed with a black guy. it wouldn't surprise me..... but i mena, at the same time, if you start saying that steve can't crack these nasty bad taste jokes, then you're gonna start a censorship thing that's a slippery slope.... and its like others have said with the ignore thing..... you gotta use it. obviously you got #s on your side.... but like, the way steve is saying that black people should "know their place" and effectively "be banned" from ritzy white communities..... well if you ban steve here for spouting off his technically wrong-divisive-incindiery views, its like others said, you're playing into his hands and proving his point.... that there's a doublestandard, and like it or not he'll be a martyr for his cause..... so like, there comes a point where i knwo you got that rage boiling inside of you and you wanna lash back at him.... but this is where you gotta stand tall and be the better man and say "steve, i feel sorry for you being like htat.... i forgive you" cuz if you start saying IT'S EITHER HIM OR ME SOMEONE HAS TO GO BF BAN THE MOTHERFUCKER, well i mean, isn't that exactly what steve is calling for IRL with black people in the ritzy white communities? he's doing his damndest to piss you off and make you act exactly like the white people who gated their community.... and yeah it's hard, yeah it's gonna piss you off and spawn some righteous indignation..... but this is the time where you stand tall and proud and simply say "i feel sorry for you steve" cuz like, shit man, if you're gonna go around espousing that hate, well then, you must be a truly miserable person on some level.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban Worthy?
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 Post subject: Re: Ban Worthy?
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I have a few points to make: 1)My uncle, a Chicago cop, became a racist because he dealt with a lot of black street criminals. 2)Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of street crime in this country. 3)The economy is in bad shape, and the mainstream media is stoking the flames of racial tension, perhaps as a distraction. 4)The institutions of a white supremacist society are not that far removed from contemporary America, and thus many whites are vulnerable to the media's demagoguery [Edito's note: sinicalypse seems completely oblivious to the fact that Zimmerman isn't white.] 5)Young black men like Martin should recognize that they live in a discriminatory society, and it is therefore their responsibility to behave sensibly under these conditions. 6)Steve shouldn't be banned from the board because the "dirty side" of free speech demands that the rights of unpopular minority views be protected.


So basically the first four points referenced above are a bunch of claptrap. Yeah, blacks are convicted of more street crime than whites--basically because the federal government has kept urban black populations under surveillance since the Nixon administration. So what's you're fucking point, sini? Whites commit far more "white collar" crimes than blacks do each year, these crimes are much more serious than street crimes and result in more deaths, and they go largely uninvestigated. The classic study of this phenomenon is The Rich Get Richer, The Poor Get Prison, but plenty of other books have addressed this inequity.

Regarding your final two points, why should Martin be held responsible for protecting himself against a racist society, but the board should be responsible for protecting the rights of racist Elmhurst Steve? Seems like you're advocating quite a double standard.

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Sini-that was pretty good. Nas you or the couch thief Darkside go put a petition together and see what BF wants to do. Not gonna bother me a bit.

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Sini-that was pretty good. Nas you or the couch thief Darkside go put a petition together and see what BF wants to do. Not gonna bother me a bit.


Seems like we all agree then.

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I think you are likely to have a similar reaction to the response you will get from BF as you had to the GZ verdict. Don't go getting too giggly just yet.

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Hey, if dickboy wants a ban, who are we to stand in its way?

Well BF, it would appear that you've been called to the fore by a few people in this thread alone in a number of different ways .... do you have a cogent response?

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Hey, if dickboy wants a ban, who are we to stand in its way?

Well BF, it would appear that you've been called to the fore by a few people in this thread alone in a number of different ways .... do you have a cogent response?


If he bans ES for this and did not do the same for the shit that was done to Reardon then that is a total load of bullshit

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I think the use of the word "sass" is almost always inappropriate.

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It seems pretty clear his life is fairly unfulfilled. He seems to be going through a mid life crisis. He seeks attention by being racist on a message board. He is attempting an acting career which is almost certainly going to fail. He has pride that he calls radio shows. He brags about being a winner in co-ed bowling leagues. He runs a business that he didn't help build and doesn't seem to be expanding though he did paint Mac's basement so he's now gone multi-state. At least his website has corrected some of the spelling errors though!

Can a convertible be far behind? I don't know if he is going to go the route of infidelity, but I believe he has in the past. Will he and his friend who brags about his calls at bars do a trip to Vegas? Will he buy a boat so he can share a lake with Mac?

We all get down in the dumps Steve. It gets better. Maybe you can play racist cop #1 on the new "hit" show Chicago PD! You can even use your posts here on the resume!

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Just a question

Where is the line?

If what Steve wrote doesnt cross it, what would?


I mean can he just start calling people racial slurs constantly?

Is there no line? or Where is it?

Im just wondering


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Just a question

Where is the line?

If what Steve wrote doesnt cross it, what would?


I mean can he just start calling people racial slurs constantly?

Is there no line? or Where is it?

Im just wondering


There is no line on the internet.

The belief that any white person born in the US is a racist is worse than Steve's drivel imo. Unless ThatGuy is just trolling as well.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Just a question

Where is the line?

If what Steve wrote doesnt cross it, what would?


I mean can he just start calling people racial slurs constantly?

Is there no line? or Where is it?

Im just wondering


There is no line on the internet.

Yes there is or this place would be the youtube comment section


And the whole "that's what he wants" is being overplayed here. Steve will not like that he's banned.



This is what happens to "slightly off" guy when he nears his 50's.


You know that guy who falls somewhere between Forrest Gump and a normal person? That's him. Something just a bit off. That must suck to go through life like that. Although he probably doesnt know.


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Well BF, it would appear that you've been called to the fore by a few people in this thread alone in a number of different ways .... do you have a cogent response?
OF course not. But the first time I post a Seinfeld picture today, he'll prune it almost immediately. :roll:
I don't know if ES should be banned, but some of shit shit should most definitely be pruned.

I say we just post the link to Painter Steves Website right here.

I don't know what the website is, but if you send it to me I would have no problem posting it. The best part of him ran down his mother and father's leg and what ever happens to this no good piece of life is well deserved.

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either ban him or ignore him. but quit giving him all this attention!

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Someone PM me the link. I'll post it in a second. The guy's a fucking prick, I could care less.


And he would throw a fucking fit if he got banned. Dont let him play the tough guy role, he would bitch and moan like no other.

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Well BF, it would appear that you've been called to the fore by a few people in this thread alone in a number of different ways .... do you have a cogent response?
OF course not. But the first time I post a Seinfeld picture today, he'll prune it almost immediately. :roll:
I don't know if ES should be banned, but some of shit shit should most definitely be pruned.

I say we just post the link to Painter Steves Website right here.


Apparently Sox business is more pressing at this time for some people.

Anyway, Darkside was absolutely on to something. No reason whatsoever to not make the connection for us on the board as well as the fine customers out in the wild looking for fine painting work to be done to know who they're hiring. Not that anybody really considers character when it comes time to locate a squire to half-ass a fence (or what have you), but that's not to say one shouldn't consider it either.

Besides, it's not defamation if dickboy is the one saying such things in regards to himself.

So, I guess the point is it's probably time to shit or get off the pot with the whole issue once and for all.

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Either post the fucking thing or don't.

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No. He clearly craves the attention, so why give it to him?

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I just wonder how many of us can contact him in 1 day.

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