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I have always had a great deal of respect for Nas, Kid, RR, and others who have shown so much restraint around ES. I am not sure I could do the same if I were in their shoes.

For me it comes down to this: If it were someone I actually respected, I probably would have more of a reaction. But it's just Steve. I expect nothing but drivel from him and he doesn't disappoint, so it's just nothing to get worked up about. We all know his bit. Nothing to see here.



I like, and agree with both of these statements. When it comes to Steve, I've always had the mindset of "consider the source". He's an ignorant, uneducated fuck, and that's never going to change. I do agree with Ralph in that being white I will never understand the other side of racism, and if I were in those shoes, I don't know how I would react. But Kid seems to have the best perspective on it. Nothing to get worked up about. Live and let live.

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Not ban worthy imo.

Everyone knows he's trolling.

Why give him the satisfaction of treating his posts as anything more than a joke?


In general that is what I do but there comes a point as a black man that I don't want to be apart of a group where these things are accepted. I'm not saying BF approves of it but it has gone on for years and he continues to push the envelope.


It's not accepted but it is permitted. He is essentially this board's Westboro Baptist Church. Don't take the bait.


Well, only because BF allows it ... it's "his board" after all ... I suggest tacit approval of racist comments but subjective "pruning" of other inconsequential posts doesn't fit him particularly well, doesn't actually reflect who he is, but at present that's all one has to go on if they didn't happen to know any better, as many of us do. Just sayin'.


When BF was lecturing me about Reardon, he would tell me that he didn't want certain things associated with his site.

He prunes what he finds objectionable. I guess racism is okay. Just the other day, BF was upset that he couldn't use the term "colored people".

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Lemme guess .... they all look alike?















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When a white poster (chas) told me that he was going to violently rape my family several years ago and I responded by telling him I would kick his ass if he ever showed up to an event, I got a PM from someone that I like and respect telling me I was wrong. How should I respond to someone threatening my family that way? Let me know what day works for you? I even got a message from chas the other day telling me he wasn't sorry and that I should be an adult and get over his comments.


See, with the chas thing idk why it's being mentioned that he's white, aside from there being some sort of an implication that the incoming PM was someone sticking up for chas because he was white. I mean, while I obviously do not understand what it's like to grow up as an african american in this society and therefore I'll never completely know what it feels like to deal with those racial slurs as a lamentably common part of life, at the same time i am overweight, and i have been ridiculed for that since approximately the 4th grade.... granted being black isn't a choice and being fat is (just like alcoholism/addiction isn't a "disease" GTFO), still, i've at least got some experience being in a position where merely existing was reason enough to catch ridicule from people, so i think i can understand a little bit of what's going on.

One of the disconnects that has to be made is that you can't represent every black person every time some generic trollbaiting vitriol is tossed out there trying to elicit a reaction like this. It's kind of like Oprah starting off her show with and coming out to "I'm Every Woman" ---- no you're not, you're a fucking billionaire who lives a completely fabricated artificial plastic life that's insulated from reality at every corner, bend, and juncture. and in this case, man, i'm reminded of Chris Rock's famous "black people vs [n-word]az" routine. In that, Chris said that an example of a black person is a guy who busts his ass with 2.5-3 jobs foregoing a lot to make sure he has enough $$$ to send his kids to college. A [n-word]a is the guy who robs that family when they can finally afford to go on vacation.

See, Chris speaks of the cultural disconnect between people who happen to be black and the "thug archetype" that has been purveyed and glorified throughout mass media, especially in the medium of music. And like I said with Steve before, when he's making slights at black people he's thinking of that minority % of black people who "hustle" for a living and embody every negative stereotype that the media has worked so hard to drill into our heads. Again, working as a police officer he had to deal with the lowest of the low in terms of the bonafide "losers"in life whose criminal element was sizeable enough to essentially define them as a person, and when your job features you dealing with that element 90-95% of the time as opposed to normally functioning productive members of society who happen to be black (i.e. when you look at them as a person, their blackness isn't the first thing that you think about), well then you're going to be slanted in your views of black people, and since you've had the validation of the inherent power that comes with the badge, you're going to feel righteous in disseminating your opinions since you were never checked for having them when you developed them.

I can't speak to why he feels the need to aggressively racebait on the board, or what psychological ends he gets out of the whole deal.... i mean that in and of itself is the issue that necessitated this thread, IMHO, but like.... if you make the issue truly black and white (no pun intended) that everything comes down to black and white, even by ostentatiously trying to combat the issue of race that steve raised, you're only helping him along my enforcing the dichotomy/divide/etc.... i mean, if everything is going to be analyzed from a perspective of "a white guy said this" / "a black guy said that" then the divide is only going to get wider and deeper and thusly bigger..... cuz ideally we should get to the crux of what people are saying without taking their race into consideration. you were right to check chas at the door not because he was a white guy talking shit to a black guy when he's legendarily on reord asnot being a fan of the black guys, but because the dumbass threatened to rape your family. i like to think that whoever PM'd you didn't do it because of the white good-ol-boy-network looking out for their own, but knowing that chas is just a harmless dumbass living out his badass fantasies behind the guise of a keyboard tough guy.... i don't think it was racially motivated.

and that's what i was trying to get at when i told you that you need to be the bigger man her.... tl;dr, i know.... but i see you posting your stuff on here and i know and respect the fact that you're a righteous dude who isn't here to take shit from anyone, moreover you're going to give hell to people who cross you (or in my case, people who give you mike trout and stephen strasburg. man that j-upton/kemp thing = i got taken out to the woodshed. yikes) but yeah, foreal nas.... BE THE BETTER MAN..... let this go not because it's a bunch of white guys begging a black guy to have mercy on another white guy, cuz this aint a racial issue.... it's a being-better-than-steve issue.... and you know you are, but by even acknowledging him, let alone going to these lengths to take him down, you're only giving him exactly what he wanted..... and while you're morally right for doing this, still, it's like playing a game of global thermonuclear war with WOPR in wargames: the only way to win is not to play the game.

so yeah, i reckon at this jucture someone can fetch HHH's shovel and bury me for trying to stick up for the point i made earlier, but like, y'all know i'm right. steve did all of this HOPING that shit would go down, and in a way this thread is more than he bargained for. i'm pretty sure that he'd totally accept a ban as the confirmation that this place is RACIST AGAINST WHITES and etc etc...... as many others have touched on, ignoring him and not playing his game is the only way to win. SHOMER SHABBOS * POUNDS TABLE *

you can do it, nas. maybe pop on the instrumental for 2pac's "i don't give a fuck" and get a little 2-step boogie in your stride and remember that there's a reason steve is trying to cut y'all black people down to his size... it's like paul mooney said on chappelle's show once "everyone wanna be a [n-word]a but ain't nobody wanna be a [n-word]a" ---- that's why the american black man is quite possibly the most imitated man in the world.

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The husband looks like a miserable bastard before he ever sees the pizza. You know he's cheating with prostitutes.

He probably knows she has brain cancer and is already having coffee with her friend and banging her on the side.

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Okay so don't ban Steve. That is fine. I've been against these things my entire time here and posting or reading the board is a choice that we all make.

Admittedly, his post bothered me this time even though they usually don't. I have a son that will be Trayvon's age (at the time of death) in about 10 years. The "know his place" line bothered me because I imaged someone saying that about my son. I'm sure in 10 years he will dress in a way that I don't approve of (most parents of teens feel this way) and the progress this country has made should not be something he should be required to have on his mind when walking in any neighborhood. Being thankful he isn't lynched while a community closes their collective eyes should not have to be on his mind when choosing if he should or shouldn't answer a question.

It appears that the primary response on a message board and in life is that a black person should ignore comments like the ones Steve posts. As I've gotten older it has become a lot easier to do. The problem is when you don't, some believe that you are equally to blame for whatever transpires after you respond or that it is all your fault. It's a battle that we can't win. Why should we have more restraint than anyone else? Considering many of these same people don't come to this forum and have racial slurs directed towards them or see racist comments about their ethnic group, are you even qualified to tell me how I should feel or react? Have you ever had to walk in these size 12's?

When a white poster (chas) told me that he was going to violently rape my family several years ago and I responded by telling him I would kick his ass if he ever showed up to an event, I got a PM from someone that I like and respect telling me I was wrong. How should I respond to someone threatening my family that way? Let me know what day works for you? I even got a message from chas the other day telling me he wasn't sorry and that I should be an adult and get over his comments.

I've said many times I don't have a problem with Steve not liking black or brown people or anyone else who feels that way. That's a choice they have to live we. I and many other posters have ignored the countless racists comments over the years, has it stopped them? No. It appears the frequency of them have increased. At what point is enough enough? That's obviously a question that only I can answer.


Wow once again disclosing what goes on in a PM. Way to be a pillar of following board form and mores. I did appologize. I said I would not take it back but I did cross a line and should not have. I will wait the lifetime it will take for anyone taking Nas to task for revealing what goes on in a PM .


The eternal victim plays the victim card again. Shocking.

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The husband looks like a miserable bastard before he ever sees the pizza. You know he's cheating with prostitutes.

He probably knows she has brain cancer and is already having coffee with her friend and banging her on the side.


I'll bet he's bringing her over that Chinese food that's on the table for sex games.

Why else would they have takeout Chinese AND pizza? There is no other explanation.

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Why else would they have takeout Chinese AND pizza? There is no other explanation.
There is another explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSe40tX-oTA

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The husband looks like a miserable bastard before he ever sees the pizza. You know he's cheating with prostitutes.

He probably knows she has brain cancer and is already having coffee with her friend and banging her on the side.


That doesn't sound anatomically correct.

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Why else would they have takeout Chinese AND pizza? There is no other explanation.
There is another explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSe40tX-oTA


Yeah, they just don't make commercials like that anymore. That guy went to the Will Ferrell School of Acting.

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The husband looks like a miserable bastard before he ever sees the pizza. You know he's cheating with prostitutes.



what the hell is wrong with the pizza anyways ?? looks fine to me


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The husband looks like a miserable bastard before he ever sees the pizza. You know he's cheating with prostitutes.



what the hell is wrong with the pizza anyways ?? looks fine to me


Because they already have a pizza behind them on the counter.

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The husband looks like a miserable bastard before he ever sees the pizza. You know he's cheating with prostitutes.



what the hell is wrong with the pizza anyways ?? looks fine to me

It's in black and white.

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Why else would they have takeout Chinese AND pizza? There is no other explanation.
There is another explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSe40tX-oTA


Yeah, they just don't make commercials like that anymore. That guy went to the Will Ferrell School of Acting.
Why was he so mad about pizza? I mean, I don't support spousal abuse, but I really don't support spousal abuse because of pizza.

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Why else would they have takeout Chinese AND pizza? There is no other explanation.
There is another explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSe40tX-oTA


Yeah, they just don't make commercials like that anymore. That guy went to the Will Ferrell School of Acting.
Why was he so mad about pizza? I mean, I don't support spousal abuse, but I really don't support spousal abuse because of pizza.


Could have been anchovies.

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Ma's going to get the 2 liters of Tab

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Why isn't there anything to drink?


Ma's going to get the 2 liters of Tab

then Pa is gonna whip her with a strap



That's hot.

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