Must have been the first time Rios didnt hustle.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Robin should have just quoted Ozzie. He came off sounding way too soft.

Well Mac told me to to tell you to go FUCK YOURSELF!!! ..So now it's been said .. .

I'd rather reference the person providing the information, as opposed to stealing others thoughts and spewing them here as my own.

It would be funny if Robin lost it and just started jabbering away in angry spanish.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

The College Baseball thread is title Baseball America top 25 and the mock draft are mine. No one noticed but a couple of bitches trying to make something out of nothing.

Sure this time? People can think what they want to think (or you can say what they think for them). I really don't care.

How excited is everyone that Kenny is actively out scouting? Can Hahn say really say no thanks to his recommendations if he doesn't agree? M&H had some decent discussion this morning about KW's influence and his love for "athlete above ball player" prospects.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

How excited is everyone that Kenny is actively out scouting? Can Hahn say really say no thanks to his recommendations if he doesn't agree? M&H had some decent discussion this morning about KW's influence and his love for "athlete above ball player" prospects.

ChiSox Reject Cardinals' Offer For Alexei Ramirez
By Mark Polishuk [July 24 at 12:29am CST]

The White Sox have as many trade chips as any trade deadline seller in the majors and they're putting a high price tag on their key players. According to Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune, the Sox recently turned down a trade offer from the Cardinals that would have sent shortstop Alexei Ramirez to St. Louis in exchange for right-hander Carlos Martinez, one of the many elite prospects in the Cards' minor league system. Gonzales said the deal was "involving" those two players, so it was perhaps not a one-for-one swap.

The Cardinals had been relying on Pete Kozma at short ever since Rafael Furcal underwent Tommy John surgery in March, and while Ramirez's production has dropped, he still would've presented a big upgrade. Ramirez entered Tuesday's play hitting .284/.310/.357 in 408 PA but only one homer and 23 RBI. Ramirez averaged 17 homers per year from 2008-11 but has just 10 homers total over 1029 PA in 2012-13. While his power isn't what it used to be, Ramirez has 20 steals (in 26 chances) this year and is one of the game's better defensive shortstops, with an 8.5 UZR/150 this season and a 7.7 UZR/150 for his career.

Ramirez still has value, but he turns 32 in September and is owed roughly $22MM through the end of the 2015 season, plus a $10MM club option for 2016 that can be bought out for $1MM. By that token it's surprising that the White Sox weren't willing to move the veteran for Martinez, a consensus top-40 prospect controlled through the 2019 season though as noted, there may have been more to this trade than simply Ramirez for Martinez straight-up.

The 21-year-old Martinez was ranked as the third-best prospect in the St. Louis farm system by Baseball America, and he possesses "a biting curveball" and a changeup and could both become plus pitches. His fastball has touched 100 mph but usually clocks in the 94-98 mph range. Martinez made his Major League debut this season and has 11 strikeouts in 10 1/3 relief innings. His 6.10 ERA is largely due to a tough outing last Friday when he allowed three runs in a third of an inning against San Diego.

Also from Gonzales, Jake Peavy and Jesse Crain are drawing a lot of interest and scouts from the Diamondbacks, Reds, Braves, Red Sox and Dodgers are expected to be in Chicago through the end of the week to watch one or both men pitch. Peavy just recently returned from a DL stint while Crain is currently on the DL with a sprained right shoulder but could be activated by Sunday.

I don't really get this one... C Martinez is the 3rd highest rated prospect in a stacked farm system. How much value is a declining Missile going to have for a club that looks to be lucky to finish .500 over the next few campaigns? Martinez is by no means a finished project, but he has electric stuff and a high ceiling and I'm sure Cooper could polish him into at least a dominant closer type, if not a #2 RH compliment to Sale. The kid is only 21... even if he took a couple years to develop, I can see him being at least an average starter or high quality bullpen piece by the time he is 23 or 24.

Joe, to me Alexi is THE guy I want moved. His back loaded contract is coming to its big years. Every other big and bad contract ends next year. Alexi's does not, which will put a crimp in reloading for 2015.

As JORR said, gotta be more to the story. Stay tuned....

You can criticize the guy all you want, but it's not like there is an abundance of competent shortstops out there. He's the kind of guy that you may think he sucks, but when you start listing all the starting shortstops, he suddenly looks a lot better.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

.660 OPS, 1.5 WAR, 16 errors, 1 HR. He is 23rd out of 24 qualifier defensively at SS.

Alexei isn't all that competent himself this year.