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Shaved his head in solidarity with a 2 year old child of his secret service with leukemia.

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Greatest president in the last 50 years.

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Nas wrote:
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uhhhhhhhhh..........................maybe you should read the thread title a bit more closely?


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uhhhhhhhhh..........................maybe you should read the thread title a bit more closely?

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 Post subject: Re: George HW Bush
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God bless George Bush who still is doing the right things at age 89!

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Greatest president in the last 50 years.


Why do you say that? Serious question...

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Greatest president in the last 50 years.


Why do you say that? Serious question...


Because in my opinion no one was better. Clinton is probably the best politician but HW was the greatest leader.

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Nas wrote:
Greatest president in the last 50 years.


I too am a big fan of GHWB. Great leader & President.

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 Post subject: Re: George HW Bush
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big deal, he was probably already near bald, he looks sicker than the kid does


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Greatest president in the last 50 years.


Why do you say that? Serious question...


Because in my opinion no one was better. Clinton is probably the best politician but HW was the greatest leader.


O/U on number of times you have been asked that just on this board in the last two years? I'm guessing at least 15.

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 Post subject: Re: George HW Bush
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He was Reagan light, fuck that. The head shaving was nice though.


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Greatest president in the last 50 years.


Why do you say that? Serious question...


Because in my opinion no one was better. Clinton is probably the best politician but HW was the greatest leader.


O/U on number of times you have been asked that just on this board in the last two years? I'm guessing at least 15.


It's been a lot. Being a one term president hurts him in the eyes of most. He would have won in a landslide if it wasn't for Perot. His defeat is one of the reasons doing the right thing for the country or compromise is seen as political suicide.

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Thats pretty cool of him. Good luck to the kid too.

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 Post subject: Re: George HW Bush
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It's been a lot. Being a one term president hurts him in the eyes of most. He would have won in a landslide if it wasn't for Perot. His defeat is one of the reasons doing the right thing for the country or compromise is seen as political suicide.

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It's been a lot. Being a one term president hurts him in the eyes of most. He would have won in a landslide if it wasn't for Perot. His defeat is one of the reasons doing the right thing for the country or compromise is seen as political suicide.

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That is indeed very well put.


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Ronald Reagan sure gets a lot of love for being an evil bastard.

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Ronald Reagan sure gets a lot of love for being an evil bastard.



Can you explain when you have a moment?

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Mostly his infamous stance on social programs as well as his support of South African apartheid.

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Regan should be put on the $3 bill.

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Mostly his infamous stance on social programs as well as his support of South African apartheid.



Reagan's philosophy of the best way tom oppose apartheid dovetails with Obama's stance in dealing with places like Iran.

Reagan never supported apartheid anymore than Obama supported a radical regime in Iran. He just disagreed with the ways in which Congress chose to approach it.

Which social programs besides the war on drugs?

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I was speaking more about how he took a hatchet to social programs. Reagan detested those below the poverty line. And we (my family) were below that line, so it resonates with me.

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 Post subject: Re: George HW Bush
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Reagan was Nancy Reagan's puppet. He hadn't had a mind of his own since 1962.


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I was speaking more about how he took a hatchet to social programs. Reagan detested those below the poverty line. And we (my family) were below that line, so it resonates with me.

What he did to mental health services was despicable.


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I was speaking more about how he took a hatchet to social programs. Reagan detested those below the poverty line. And we (my family) were below that line, so it resonates with me.

What he did to mental health services was despicable.


Yeah, that was pretty fucking bad.


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Ronald Reagan sure gets a lot of love for being an evil bastard.


i don't think he was evil, but he had a huge blind spot with what you were speaking of with social programs. he also gets a little too much credit where the cold war is concerned. the soviet union was going to collapse regardless of what he said or did. that empire had been crumbling for a while. but he did have the right "face". and when i think of 80's politics, he and thatcher immediately come to mind.

we're a reactionary society, though. every president currently sucks, and in 10 years, they were the best president in recent memory. in 20 years they were the best president in our lifetime, and then they get an expressway named after them or a coin.

we're a lot easier on history than we are on news.


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Ronald Reagan sure gets a lot of love for being an evil bastard.



Can you explain when you have a moment?

Reagan fundamentally changed the American economy for the worse IMO. He came in office and immediately cut taxes disproportionately for rich Americans. We can argue all day that a 70% tax rate is too high but it was working. The rich were still doing well and the middle class could still see and believe that climbing into the upper class was possible. That changed when Reagan cut the tax rate from 70% to 28% in less than 8 years. The average worker pay has increased by less than 6% since then and we've seen CEO's pay increase by nearly 800%. Companies decided to ship jobs overseas and hire more low paying workers here to increase their bottom line at the expense of the worker. In fact most of the jobs he created were the low paying kind. The other effect of cutting taxes by 42% for the rich is it created a massive budget deficit. Our national debt went from a very manageable $900B to a bloated $2.7T. All of it was done to bleed government. Problem is when the average worker has seen their pay increase by less than 6% in 30 years they end up needing more government. If not for W Bush he would be by far the worst president in my lifetime and Clinton wouldn't be far behind. Even Nixon considered helping the workers with his employer mandated health care proposal.

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Ronald Reagan sure gets a lot of love for being an evil bastard.

...If not for W Bush he would be by far the worst president in my lifetime and Clinton wouldn't be far behind. Even Nixon considered helping the workers with his employer mandated health care proposal.


I lived through LBJ, Nixon, Ford & Carter to start.

Four worst:

3rd runner up: Clinton
2nd runner up: Nixon
1st runner up: W.
Worst, by a landslide: Bonzo the Monkey & Sinatra's fuck buddy's best friend :wink:

Hell, the man opened a presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS....to demonstrate his solidarity with the 1980's inspiration for the Tea Party. Or the White Citizens Councils/Klan. Firmly established the current playbook for the Republican party. Ultimately hated Americans.

Then wasted trillions in pointless government actions scapegoating & harming those who couldn't fight back. But his buddies got really, really well.

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