With two now teenaged sons, if I spanked them for a fraction of the things that some feel they deserved it for, I'd feel a lot less happy about their childhoods. They've got their own issues, just like I (& we all did), but they have nothing to do with not having been spanked, imo.

I don't know that I've spanked the two of them combined more than 3-4 times. Maybe I've been lucky that after a good talk, each of them came across as remorseful & fearful of what would happen "the next time something like this happens".

Maybe I'm also lucky that everyone bought the "I'm 6'1" 240lbs & heavy handed" rationale I (also) gave to explain why I didn't spank them. Including my sons. Funny thing is that, every so often the wife (who did spank) will get heated with them....and then gets hysterically surprised when they don't back down from her physical threats. They're both bigger than her, and I guess have in part learned how to respond to her in kind from time to time.

If I'm landing hands on my own child, its going to be be for a really good reason, not childhood stuff....you know, the next time something like that happens

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This.

What even makes either story newsworthy, unless you're trying to prove an underlying point or two?

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Debate nothing. What I find most disturbing is that even though they are young, one child did not seem to understand that there are consequences to his actions and the other knew there were consequences but did not care. I have no idea which is worse.

The white kid didn't seem to fully understand that he had done something wrong. He had an impulse to drive the car and did it, not really thinking about the dangers involved. He needs to be educated as to why his actions were inappropriate and he should never be repeated. The black kid knew he was doing something bad and that appealed to him. He likes to do things a hood-rat might do and is likely to get in trouble for that reason. He needs to be in the system, so that someone can impress upon him that the long term consequences of this hood-rat behavior is going to be a tougher life than he might want. The stories may involve 2 seven year olds, but their attitudes concerning what they had done makes a huge difference in how each should be treated by the system.

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Are you saying the black kid is smarter than the white kid?

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No, I am saying that the white kid seemed to be naïve and made a dumb mistake. The black kid knew full well what he was doing and that it was wrong and did it anyway.

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I don't understand why nobody came to the aid of the Grandmother, as the punk was beating her up in the Walmart. This kid is a piece of work. Voted most likely to spend time at the grey-bar hotel???

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Then the black kid is smarter. I think we should get him training to be a future CEO and put the white kid in a home for the mentally challenged/criminally insane.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Actually, you have it "perfectly wrong" according to officials, who have sought to have the 7 year old black kid examined for mental defects, after he beat up the Grandmother at a Walmart right in front of a crowd of people. Go back and read that story. He's never going to be a CEO. He may wear a suit, but it's gonna be a jumpsuit, with big bold letters (DOC) on it.

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Keep on Stevein'.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Steve, how do you feel about hate crime laws?

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

it's what I do...

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They are prosecuted unevenly. If a black person or group of blacks attack and rob a white person, it's not prosecuted as a hate crime. It's just a mugging. Even if they beat him up after already taking his money/valuables. But if white teens attack a minority, it's much more likely to be prosecuted as a hate crime. I don't condone crimes against minorities, but if there are already laws against battery/robbery/murder, why not just charge the guy with battery/robbery/murder? I understand how/why they came up with hate crime laws, but unless they are prosecuted in a more even fashion, it seems to me that they are unfairly used.

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But there are already laws against seven year olds driving cars and yet you want to weigh each seven year old's motivations?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

As a police officer, you have powers of discretion. You determine as best you can, what someone's intent was, when they did whatever they did, so as to arrive at a conclusion as to whether an arrest is warranted or not. the character of the individual comes into play as well. Your lil CEO that goes around stealing cars and crashing them into other vehicles and beating up his Grandmother would not get a lot of consideration from me. His skin color has a lot less to do with it than his general attitude concerning right and wrong and his apparent disregard for what effect his actions might have on others, even members of his own family. As I said, he'll be wearing a jumpsuit in the future.

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Steak dinner, BOOM!

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

When they decide to lay hands on someone else, don't forget where they learned it.

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I will respectfully disagree with you on that.

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I tried to go back to that style, but it didn't work. The persona that was created in jest was so identified with, by many board members, that I was basically not permitted to go back. That's okay....

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You mean to say that you are powerless against a couple of internet jerks like me?
I can't believe I have such sway over how you comport yourself.

You must be very, very weak willed.

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You give yourself credit where it is not due. The credit/blame is all mine and I recognized that fact. You make your bed and you lay in it. I accept the responsibility for it.

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Is it really so difficult for you not to be a fucking turd?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Steve, which child has a better grasp of the 'penalty play', and which is more likely to call Mac?

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