What are they thinking?

Walt Williams Neck · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:06 pm

West Coast offense with Cutler? Forte 400 touches? This will be Cutlers last year as a Bear and Forte can't last that long...injured by game 4.Emery is daft

IkeSouth · **Joined:** Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:25 pm **Posts:** 27055

they picked a little weird guy for a coach what do you expect

Colonel Angus · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:33 pm

THEY'LL NEVER WIN A GAME! CUTLER WILL COMMIT SUICIDE ON 4TH & LONG ON THE FIRST DRIVE! EMERY WILL DIE OF THE EBOLA VIRUS AFTER HAVING ANAL INTERCOURSE W/ JAKE LONG! PEANUT TILMAN WILL SHOOT SOMEBODY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT BLACK FOOTBALL STARS DO!

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:36 pm

IkeSouth wrote:

they picked a little weird guy for a coach what do you expect

I thought the reasoning that led them to Trestman was sound. In a league dominated by good offenses, it makes all the sense in the world to find a guy who can maximize the talents of the Bears' best offensive weapons.

Scorehead · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:46 am

Cutler & Forte could have huge years this year in the Trestman system. I cant wait to see this offense.

Dewskie · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:28 am

Just root for some other team. This place is a wretched festival of feces during Bears season.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:57 am

Dewskie wrote:

Just root for some other team. This place is a wretched festival of feces during Bears season.

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=50067&start=3250

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:27 am

Kirkwood wrote:

Dewskie wrote:

Just root for some other team. This place is a wretched festival of feces during Bears season.

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=50067&start=3250

Green Bay is a wretched festival of feces 24/7.

Northside_Dan · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:30 am

Dewskie wrote:

Just root for some other team. This place is a wretched festival of feces during Bears season.

I'd say Bears discussion is the least intelligent of any Chicago sport on this board. So much bad. I don't know if that's just a reflection that everyone watches the Bears so everyone has an opinion or what.

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43583

Northside_Dan wrote:

[I'd say Bears discussion is the least intelligent of any Chicago sport on this board. So much bad.

#Truth

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82260

Dewskie wrote:

Just root for some other team. This place is a wretched festival of feces during Bears season.

don't forget during the draft as well

Honestly though, your thoughts suck.

Scorehead · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:49 pm

Rich Gannon & Charlie Garner had career years when Trestman was the Raiders offensive coordinator. Cutler & Forte are both better. I'm expecting career years for both Jay & Matt.

BEARSSSS!!!

Colonel Angus · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:59 pm

Northside_Dan wrote:

Dewskie wrote:

Just root for some other team. This place is a wretched festival of feces during Bears season.

I'd say Bears discussion is the least intelligent of any Chicago sport on this board. So much bad. I don't know if that's just a reflection that everyone watches the Bears so everyone has an opinion or what.

Not as bad as baseball pissing matches.

Nas · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:13 pm

veganfan21 wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

they picked a little weird guy for a coach what do you expect

I thought the reasoning that led them to Trestman was sound. In a league dominated by good offenses, it makes all the sense in the world to find a guy who can maximize the talents of the Bears' best offensive weapons.

Hire him as a coordinator then. This will be a huge success or an epic failure.

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:43 pm

Nas wrote:

Hire him as a coordinator then. This will be a huge success or an epic failure.

But coordinators get HC jobs all the time; some fail, some exceed. Exclusive OC/DC experience is not a red flag, if that's what you were trying to imply. I'd value his HC experience by placing it in the leadership/management category, and not necessarily the football experience as HC since the playing styles between the leagues are vastly different. But that doesn't mean his handling of the roster/locker-room experience in the CFL should be devalued.

He's been around long enough to convince me that, if he fails, it won't be epic. I think the worst thing that could happen is a string of mediocre seasons.

Walt Williams Neck · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:00 pm

ok here I my thoughts ...for what 12 years this guy wasn't in the NFL,so every franchise except the Bears were stupid not to hire him???? Look at Emery's last two number 1 draft picks and ..now this? Oh they will do it the Cub way...playoffs in 2017. WTF

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:22 pm

I think the time away is irrelevant. He was still involved with football anyway. Three straight championship games, two wins, isn't bad for your first three years in a foreign league. Yes, it's the CFL, but it's still valuable experience added on top of the NFL stuff.

Scorehead · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:29 pm

Coaches move from coaching college ball to the NFL Frequently. Why not a guy from the CFL? At least the Bears finally have a head coach who knows offense. The last 3 Bears coaches had no fucking clue about offense or hiring an OC. This season is the beginning of a new era for the Bears. No more ground & pound, we get off the bus running, etc...

pittmike · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:32 pm

At worst he seems to me that has the management skills for the job and the offense which we all seem to desire. My biggest worry is he smart enough to hire the right coaches to cover his weaker areas. That is what all good HC's should do.

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:35 pm

pittmike wrote:

At worst he seems to me that has the management skills for the job and the offense which we all seem to desire. My biggest worry is he smart enough to hire the right coaches to cover his weaker areas. That is what all good HC's should do.

Yes, and his ability to get guys to play for him. I think that's a cause for concern as well.

Walt Williams Neck · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:35 pm

veganfan21 wrote:

I think the time away is irrelevant. He was still involved with football anyway. Three straight championship games, two wins, isn't bad for your first three years in a foreign league. Yes, it's the CFL, but it's still valuable experience added on top of the NFL stuff.

henry mother fuckin burris was grey cup mvp...come on

pittmike · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:36 pm

Even so, I will hold my read on him until the first quarter of the season is done. The guy deserves that in my opinion.

Walt Williams Neck · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:54 pm

he has to be a better coach than what they fired...he is a house man ..like dale and robin!

Urlacher's missing neck · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:23 pm

Nas wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

they picked a little weird guy for a coach what do you expect

I thought the reasoning that led them to Trestman was sound. In a league dominated by good offenses, it makes all the sense in the world to find a guy who can maximize the talents of the Bears' best offensive weapons.

Hire him as a coordinator then. This will be a huge success or an epic failure.

It really doesn't get any more basic and correct than this.

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:25 pm

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

Nas wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

they picked a little weird guy for a coach what do you expect

I thought the reasoning that led them to Trestman was sound. In a league dominated by good offenses, it makes all the sense in the world to find a guy who can maximize the talents of the Bears' best offensive weapons.

Hire him as a coordinator then. This will be a huge success or an epic failure.

It really doesn't get any more basic and correct than this.

Which part? What about his record leads you to think he's unqualified for a HC job?

Urlacher's missing neck · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:31 pm

veganfan21 wrote:

Which part? What about his record leads you to think he's unqualified for a HC job?

He is unqualified to be a leader of men in the NFL right now. They better get out of the gate fast or he will lose the defense and probably Jay at some point.

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:38 pm

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Which part? What about his record leads you to think he's unqualified for a HC job?

He is unqualified to be a leader of men in the NFL right now. They better get out of the gate fast or he will lose the defense and probably Jay at some point.

What I don't get is the same thing I mentioned to Nas. How is Trestmans hire substantially different from the several DCs and OCs that get hired each year as first time head coaches? The only difference is Trestman has HC experience in a different league, as well as the coordinating background in the NFL. You could even say his background is more dynamic than the typical young OC who is the league's hottest candidate every year

Urlacher's missing neck · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:45 pm

veganfan21 wrote:

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Which part? What about his record leads you to think he's unqualified for a HC job?

He is unqualified to be a leader of men in the NFL right now. They better get out of the gate fast or he will lose the defense and probably Jay at some point.

What I don't get is the same thing I mentioned to Nas. How is Trestmans hire substantially different from the several DCs and OCs that get hired each year as first time head coaches? The only difference is Trestman has HC experience in a different league, as well as the coordinating background in the NFL. You could even say his background is more dynamic than the typical young OC who is the league's hottest candidate every year

You have to factor in the length of time away in the CFL with him being a very weird guy. He is kind of the guru nerd guy that really has long dusty road to navigate to get players to buy in. Most of the players on this team probably had no idea who the hell he was when he was hired. Giving him a year as OC to get re-acclimated to the league and the the league re-acclimated to him would have been wise IMO. It would give you an incredibly better read on how his offense is going to work and how the guys are responding to his locker room counter culture vibe.

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 pm

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

You have to factor in the length of time away in the CFL with him being a very weird guy. He is kind of the guru nerd guy that really has long dusty road to navigate to get players to buy in. Most of the players on this team probably had no idea who the hell he was when he was hired. Giving him a year as OC to get re-acclimated to the league and the the league re-acclimated to him would have been wise IMO. It would give you an incredibly better read on how his offense is going to work and how the guys are responding to his locker room counter culture vibe.

With regards to his personality quirks and what not, every team has to make that adjustment to a new coach. It's the same whether the new coach is someone like Josh McDaniels and his arrogant, very "Belichickian" approach, or the soft-spoken style of a guy like Tony Dungy, who had replaced a guy with completely different personality traits in Jim Mora. The challenge those locker rooms faced in adapting to the style of a new coach, weird or not, is no different than what the Bears are going through now.

Again I don't see the CFL thing as a big deal. He also went back to practicing law for a time in between OC stints or something. He also went back to the NCAA for a second stint. He's obviously a very adaptable guy who can effectively process information and data in varied contexts. The adaptabilty part is crucial because you mentioned wanting to know how his offense is going to work, but I don't think there is a "his" offense; there's are plays within the wider, general scheme that work, and there are plays he'll see, for whatever reason, won't work. So if there is a Trestman offense, it's a set of plays that he knows the Bears can run, and it will change based on how the Bears personnel changes over time. This is not a guy who, in very Martzian fashion, is trying to jam a square peg into a round hole.

That being said, I'm not trying to predict greatness for this guy or anything. I'm just arguing that the Bears' hiring process was sound, and that it led them to a candidate whose record demonstrates expertise in areas where the Bears suck, and in areas that are important to every NFL team.

Scorehead · **Posted:** Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:49 pm

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

Which part? What about his record leads you to think he's unqualified for a HC job?

He is unqualified to be a leader of men in the NFL right now. They better get out of the gate fast or he will lose the defense and probably Jay at some point.

Was Jim Harbaugh qualified to be a leader of Men in the NFL?

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