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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:10 pm 
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How does the almighty NBA make less than the NHL?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:12 pm 
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Must be counting the CBC/TSN/RDS contracts, which are the backbone of Canadian sports television and appropriately enormous. They're due to be renewed soon, too.

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Canada has one-tenth of our population and pays five times as much for hockey. But we really gotta expand to Seattle, because that's where the money is. :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:23 am 
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Don't you think these numbers are skewed because baseball has 162 games?

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Does the MLB contract take into account local station (like TBS & WGN) revenue?

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Just like I bet about every person on here,I can sit and watch a Lions-Browns game even though I'm a Bears fan. In MLB,no way am I sitting watching a Tigers-Indians game. That's the difference. Football has pull no matter who is playing (most of the time). Not the same for MLB,unless of course the game matters to your favorite teams playoff chances.

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After watching how this board reacts to the NHL, as well as the parade and everything else, I'm surprised at their contracts. I don't think the deals match the passion of the fans of hockey. Something is amiss there.


It's because NHL fandom is highly localized. The Blackhawks, Penguins, Red Wings, Flyers, and Sabres get unreal local ratings on national TV and their respective RSNs, but where there's no NHL team, there are no viewers. Sure, you'll get Milwaukee watching the Stanley Cup when the Hawks are playing, or West Palm Beach popping a big rating for the Olympics on the backs of NY/NJ/LI transplants, but put a Wings-Flyers game on NBC on a Sunday afternoon and no one gives a fuck in Kansas City or Houston or Cleveland. End result: no national value.

It's hard to be a hockey fan without a team. You can't be cosmopolitan about it and watch "for your fantasy team" like football and baseball, or "root for witnessing greatness" or whatever the fuck you're supposed to do with the NBA nowadays. And on top of that, love for your team and love for your home are virtually inextricable -- far more provincial than that of any sport, in my opinion. The media likes to talk a big game about how, say, the Bears "embody blue-collar Chicago" or some such bullshit, but I think there's really something to hockey fandom as civic-pride signifier that makes it something you can't wholly take on from afar. The way I see it, you're talking about a niche sport that obsesses heavily over its traditions, rituals, and community, all generally in places that fall a bit short of paradise. Once you're doing that, it's just a hop, skip, and jump to romanticizing even more hyper-specific stuff that most people can't get.

I pull for the Jets to do well, but without having lived in Winnipeg, how can I ever really know what it means to be A Winnipeg Fan? I can't. I don't know what it's like to deal with -20F Januaries as a matter of course. I don't know what it's like to grow up in a slowly dying city surrounded by hundreds of miles of nothing. My uncles never told me about what it was like to watch a game from the hysterically steep upper deck of the old barn. I can't imagine how it felt to lose a team and get it back. Without having looked it up, I'd never have known that they call their alleys "backlanes" there. It's like showing up to someone else's family reunion.

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I look at that 7 billion dollar contract with the NFL, and I just shake my fucking head! That is the net worth of some rich fuck out there. The NFL is a fucking machine that just rolls over every other sport. Baseball? America's pastime? Get the fuck outta here. I'm just glad we can still watch the games on TV. With that much money being spent, I'm amazed it isn't all PPV. Thank God for Budweiser and the other big sponsors. We do love our bloodlust!

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Watching television is America's Pastime.

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Since the NFL doesn't have local broadcasts, wouldn't their revenue numbers be misleading when compared only against the national broadcasts for the other sports? I would bet that the MLB numbers would look a bit closer if you included the Yankees' and Dodgers' local TV deals, for instance.

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I don't think I have to debate Curious Hair on this fact. The NHL is the most pathetically run league in the history of modern day sports. Hockey could take Baseball and Basketball. That's right, I said it.

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Since the NFL doesn't have local broadcasts, wouldn't their revenue numbers be misleading when compared only against the national broadcasts for the other sports? I would bet that the MLB numbers would look a bit closer if you included the Yankees' and Dodgers' local TV deals, for instance.


Six years since your last post.

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conns7901 wrote:
Kadomony wrote:
Since the NFL doesn't have local broadcasts, wouldn't their revenue numbers be misleading when compared only against the national broadcasts for the other sports? I would bet that the MLB numbers would look a bit closer if you included the Yankees' and Dodgers' local TV deals, for instance.


Six years since your last post.


I don't care about any of that, but I do care about cable deals being the next big bust. Even the clubs that have these giant deals in place will lose them when cable companies declare bankruptcy to get out of it.

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I don't think I have to debate Curious Hair on this fact. The NHL is the most pathetically run league in the history of modern day sports. Hockey could take Baseball and Basketball. That's right, I said it.

Couldn't argue if I tried.

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Kadomony wrote:
Since the NFL doesn't have local broadcasts, wouldn't their revenue numbers be misleading when compared only against the national broadcasts for the other sports? I would bet that the MLB numbers would look a bit closer if you included the Yankees' and Dodgers' local TV deals, for instance.


Six years since your last post.


He probably just couldn't stand a bunch of people spinning numbers to declare football more popular then Jesus.

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The guy probably has zero friends & his family lives in a seniors' community where they only get MeTV.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Kadomony wrote:
Since the NFL doesn't have local broadcasts, wouldn't their revenue numbers be misleading when compared only against the national broadcasts for the other sports? I would bet that the MLB numbers would look a bit closer if you included the Yankees' and Dodgers' local TV deals, for instance.


Six years since your last post.


He probably just couldn't stand a bunch of people spinning numbers to declare football more popular then Jesus.


Well it is more popular than baseball. I used 2011 since 2012 was an Olympic Year. 2012 was all NFL and Olympics.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2011/12 ... -the-year/


Presented are the 100 most-viewed sporting events of 2011 on broadcast and cable.

An astounding 75 of the 100 most-viewed events of the year were NFL games, including the top eighteen. Keep in mind this does not include Week 15 and Week 16 games on FOX and CBS (six telecasts combined), as final ratings and viewership for those events were not immediately available.

Of the mere 25 non-NFL sporting events to make the list, six were NBA games (all during the NBA Finals), six were Major League Baseball games (all during the World Series), six were NCAA Tournament telecasts, and four were college football games (three BCS bowls and LSU/Alabama in November). The remaining three events were the Daytona 500 (8.7, 15.597M), the final round of The Masters (9.5, 15.257M), and the race portion of the Kentucky Derby (8.5, 14.539M).

The top college football game ranked 18th (AUB/ORE: 15.3, 27.316M), the top Major League Baseball game ranked 24th (TEX/STL G7: 14.7, 25.403M), the top NBA game ranked 30th (DAL/MIA G6: 13.3, 23.880M), and the top college basketball game ranked 49th (CONN/BUT: 11.7, 20.055M).

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It produces and promotes a more popular television product than MLB.

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