No, they didnt trade him, but are listening to offers. None close enough for what they want.

I would love to know what has been offered, because I would jump at some of those deals if one of the pitchers was a top pitching prospect.

Like "Shark", but he has just enough terrible games, to not make him a #1, but it looks like he wants to be paid as #1.

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I wouldn't overlove a guy that consistently can't get past the 6th without throwing 100 pitches.

Lots of reasons to trade the guy. No doubt trend is pointing up, but could be very well be at a peak or close to it. So trading him, you might get some potential he never reaches as a #1.

he has had plenty of amazingly bad 1st innings. Not sure if this is a mental issue or what, but they happen too much.

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They would have to get 2 mlb ready pitchers and probably 3 more prospects. Arizona was the only team that looked like they could pull it off if they wanted.

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I would go for much more quality than quantity in this case.

Need a guy projected as a #1, which most teams wouldnt trade.

Maybe Strassburg, they shut him down all the time. lol

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

From MLBTradeRumors.com... The asking price on Jeff Samardzija is "higher than the Sears Tower," according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports.

I can't see anyone believing this is a ploy to inflate his market value. Its not like he is a prospect. The video of him pitching is out there. My bet is that the Cubs are smart and not going to part with him knowing that you would only get lower prospects in return. I can't see them getting what you want, BigFan, in a projected #1 starter. Its possible you can trade him to get draft picks to eventually package for a higher pick in an upcoming draft so that you can go after a Strasbug level pitcher. I thought this was Wilken's specialty? He did find Halladay, right? If you follow the Red Sox model, they traded to get Schilling and Beckett for their #1 starters.

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These trade proposals people are making are crazy. You might get that deal for Mike Trout

Like Theo, Jed, now what I am expecting it, but the only way I trade for him.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I thought Samardzija loved the Cubs and would take below market just to stay.

I have no idea what market would be for a Samardzija contract. He isn't exactly young and he is still a developmental piece. At 29 and going into his 6th year next year, you really can only say that he is the guy he has shown himself to be, which is a .500 pitcher with a 4 ERA. He and his agent won't agree with that assessment.

Still, he is under control for another year I believe. Arbitrate him and have this discussion next year

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He is going to be asking for at minimum 15M for 5 so it will be interesting to see what they do with him down the road. No way he gets moved today unless someone empties out their farm system, a la Von Hayes back in the day.

Shark is inconsistent. He shows flashes of brilliance, but doesn't seem to have the ability to give his team the chance to win on nights he doesn't have his good stuff. Plus, he's not that young anymore. If the package a team puts together was really strong, I give it serious consideration.

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$15M for 5 could be market price for him if every team starts to get $130-$150 mill just from MLB TV deal.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I think that's market for him irrespective of the TV money and Shark's camp knows that. Will his affinity for being on the North Side result in him taking any kind of a discount? Maybe a little but not much.

Agreed. Tha'ts why he's in play. He is still a solid 2/3 though and could still emerge as a 1.

Id dump his overinflated sense of self worth ass for 1 good prospect. He's not worth the money he's going to want.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

DBack offered a package focused around Ian Kennedy

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Team Cutler.

I would be incredibly interested in an Ian Kennedy deal. Certainly not for Shark.

Agreed.

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Team Cutler.

I would trade him now. He's a #3 starter. We see #3 starters show flashes of being #1 all the time. It's very unlikely he's going to become that pitcher consistently after 30.

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What are the odds on prospects making it at all?

Now what are the prospects of them being a #2-#3 with #1 potential (Meaning, he could jump up and have a one great year)



I just dont think you can get value

On top of next year at less than 5 mil I'd lock him up for 3 years at 12ish per and a couple of team options at 15 on top of that.
He'd be set for life in his hometown with another opportunity for a big contract after that.

I'd trade anybody if the right deal was offered but prospects are more valuable than ever so that's not going to happen.

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I've always thought Samardiza was a better football player than pitcher. But he has proven me somewhat wrong as he would probably be just about done with his football career at this point. I also think he should donate his hair to "Locks of Love."

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6 -11 ERA of 4.2 and WHiP of 1.35 after todays implosion. Another late season swoon coming on. Like Nas said, he's maybe a No 3 starter on a good team. If they can make a decent deal, adios partner.

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Update. After todays shelling, he stands at 8-12 , 4.44 ERA , 1.36 WHiP. Dont know what his money number is going to be to re-sign but if he wants anything close to what EJAx got theres no fucking way you give it to him. Id give him 3 years at maybe 8 million per. Which is still an obscene amount of money but I would imagine some other dumbshit team will at least offer him that much.

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Someone is going to offer him much much more! and he will have some great games for them as well.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Then hes welcome to have them for whatever team. More I think about it, he basically is Edwin Jackson. Good arm, he'll be lucky to be .500 career pitcher. Fuck him, let him go.

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Cubs had a guy a long time ago. His name was Bill Bonham. He had all the tools but never amounted to anything. If they could trade him for two or three prospects,that's fine with me.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Awesome. Bill Bonham talk.

He got the Cubs Bill Caudill and Woodie Fryman, both solid relievers...just not really with the Cubs.

This was the early save era when like 7 of the top 10 all-time save leaders were ex-Cubs.

Caudill
Ron Davis
Hernandez
Smith
Gossage
Sutter
Eckersley
Tidrow

Not an all-time guy but Jay Howell had some solid years.

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Remember guys like Ray Burris & Mike Harkey? Was it Jim Frey & Don Zimmer that got rid of Larry Gura because he didn't throw hard?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Never figured out how guys like Burris and Krukow could just move on and kick ass like Hernandez, Caudill, Davis, Howell, etc.

Damn, those guys didn't know what they were doing.

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