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 Post subject: Pants is Racist
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:28 pm 
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@MattSpiegel670: Mat Latos has thrown 94 pitches, K'ed 9, & gone to a 3 ball count on only 1 hitter in 8 shutout IP Will Dusty be a slave to the save stat?


Seriously though, can't believe he tweeted that. What a doofus. Gonzales caught it right away:

@MDGonzales: @MattSpiegel670 might want to choose your words more carefully.


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Bucky Beardown. Just kidding, you're right. Even if you don't mean the worst, how does that pass through your filter?

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Bucky Beardown. Just kidding, you're right. Even if you don't mean the worst, how does that pass through your filter?


Exactly. I'm guessing there was no unintentional or intentional ill will meant, but you gotta catch that.


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Tweeted this, but ultimately deleted the original tweet:

@MattSpiegel670: Have used that phrase about innumerable managers. Come on.


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Pretty well documented how unaware he is.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Tweeted this, but ultimately deleted the original tweet:

@MattSpiegel670: Have used that phrase about innumerable managers. Come on.

I'm so shocked that he wouldn't own it. ....and this is why he is a giant vajay. Just say it was a poor choice of words jackass.

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Pretty well documented how unaware he is.


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 Post subject: Re: Pants is Racist
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I'm sure he was unaware of what he was saying while tweeting. It wasn't intentionally racist.

Still, didn't Jeff Dickerson get suspended for a comment made about Dusty. Something like "Cubs fans are gonna want to hang Dusty from the foul pole."

Something like that.

But the Score is different than ESPN 1000. Mitch lets his people say dumb and racist stuff.


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If Dusty's team doesn't sweep the Cubs, Walt Jocketty might have to start cracking the whip.


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This is a joke thread right? I mean did he even look at Dusty's body these days? No one would want to make a slave out of that.

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 Post subject: Re: Pants is Racist
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Wow, far be it from me to defend Gravy, but is that really a problem?

So were eliminating the term slave/slavery in all its forms?

Its used quite a bit in a lot of different ways.

That seems a little much.

Pretty sure I heard it used to describe a trader's dependence on charts yesterday. That didnt seem offensive.


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probably because 150 years ago, the trader wouldn't have really been a slave...and dusty most likely would have.

spiegel can't pull off bad taste.


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Wow, far be it from me to defend Gravy, but is that really a problem?

So were eliminating the term slave/slavery in all its forms?

Its used quite a bit in a lot of different ways.

That seems a little much.

Pretty sure I heard it used to describe a trader's dependence on charts yesterday. That didnt seem offensive.

This thread is fucking stupid and if anyone other than Spiegel posted that, it wouldn't be an issue. I think the Spiegel hatred is becoming slightly over the top.

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W_Z wrote:
probably because 150 years ago, the trader wouldn't have really been a slave...and dusty most likely would have.

I guess so.

I gotta be honest, if I read that or heard that, I wouldnt have thought that.


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Wow, far be it from me to defend Gravy, but is that really a problem?

So were eliminating the term slave/slavery in all its forms?

Its used quite a bit in a lot of different ways.

That seems a little much.

Pretty sure I heard it used to describe a trader's dependence on charts yesterday. That didnt seem offensive.

This thread is fucking stupid and if anyone other than Spiegel posted that, it wouldn't be an issue. I think the Spiegel hatred is becoming slightly over the top.

Maybe some of that, but apparently he deleted the Tweet and even addressed it, so I guess it's kind of an issue


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 Post subject: Re: Pants is Racist
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I'm sure he felt pressured to do so, but I don't think there was anything offensive about what he said.

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 Post subject: Re: Pants is Racist
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Not quite sure what big the deal is, he used a common euphemism.


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 Post subject: Re: Pants is Racist
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Spiegs has said "slave to the save stat" probably 30 times since he's been back on the air in Chicago.

I guess none of you listened to Hit and Run.

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Spiegs has said "slave to the save stat" probably 30 times since he's been back on the air in Chicago.

I guess none of you listened to Hit and Run.

Ding....

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Spiegs has said "slave to the save stat" probably 30 times since he's been back on the air in Chicago.

I guess none of you listened to Hit and Run.

He was off the 11 or 12 times I tuned in


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 Post subject: Re: Pants is Racist
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Time for a Bob Nightengale article about racist cubs fans.

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He shouldn't have deleted the tweet, IMO.


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Ridiculous and a detriment to legitimate complaints

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Ridiculous and a detriment to legitimate complaints


:lol:


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Matt is over the top about ensuring that listeners know how enlightened and evolved he is where race relations are concerned. He would NEVER make a racist remark. He used a figure of speech in making a remark about using a closer in a situation where perhaps he wasn't really needed. I am sure he meant nothing by it and probably feels terrible that anyone might have been offended by it. This was a ridiculous thread.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Ridiculous and a detriment to legitimate complaints


:lol:

How is that funny?


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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Matt is over the top about ensuring that listeners know how enlightened and evolved he is where race relations are concerned. He would NEVER make a racist remark. He used a figure of speech in making a remark about using a closer in a situation where perhaps he wasn't really needed. I am sure he meant nothing by it and probably feels terrible that anyone might have been offended by it. This was a ridiculous thread.


The thread was sort of a joke, until he deleted it giving it some credibility.


But to your point, I don't listen to Pants anymore so I wouldn't know about his racial credibility. I would guess a lot of people on Twitter don't either (including Gonzales). As I said initially, it was likely he meant absolutely no ill will. Doesn't mean it isn't a poor choice of words. He agreed with me when he deleted it. Thread makes sense.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
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Ridiculous and a detriment to legitimate complaints


:lol:

How is that funny?


It made me laugh out loud.


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