The Cubs are the Yankees of losing, so even if that is true, it's still a wide gap.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Tell it to these guys!

Grover Cleveland Alexander
Cap Anson*1
Richie Ashburn
Ernie Banks
Lou Boudreau1
Roger Bresnahan1
Mordecai Brown*
Frank Chance1
John Clarkson

Kiki Cuyler
Andre Dawson
Hugh Duffy
Leo Durocher
Dennis Eckersley
Johnny Evers*
Jimmie Foxx
Frankie Frisch1
Goose Gossage

Clark Griffith†2
Burleigh Grimes
Gabby Hartnett1
Billy Herman
Rogers Hornsby1
Monte Irvin
Ferguson Jenkins
George Kelly
King Kelly*
Ralph Kiner

Chuck Klein
Tony Lazzeri
Freddie Lindstrom
Rabbit Maranville
Joe McCarthy
Hank O'Day3
Robin Roberts
Ryne Sandberg
Ron Santo

Frank Selee
Albert Spalding†2
Bruce Sutter
Joe Tinker*
Rube Waddell
Deacon White
Hoyt Wilhelm
Billy Williams
Hack Wilson










Players listed in bold are depicted on their Hall of Fame plaques wearing a Cubs, Orphans, Colts, or White Stockings cap insignia.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

In 1902, Spalding, who by this time had revamped the roster to boast what would soon be one of the best teams of the early century, sold the club to Jim Hart, and the franchise became known as the Chicago Cubs.[6] During this period, which has become known as baseball's dead-ball era, Cub infielders Joe Tinker, Johnny Evers, and Frank Chance were made famous as a double-play combination by Franklin P. Adams' poem Baseball's Sad Lexicon. The poem first appeared in the July 18, 1910 edition of the New York Evening Mail. Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown, Jack Taylor, Ed Reulbach, Jack Pfiester, and Orval Overall were several key pitchers for the Cubs during this time period. With Chance acting as player-manager from 1905 to 1912, the Cubs won four pennants and two World Series titles over a five-year span. Although they fell to the "Hitless Wonders" White Sox in the 1906 World Series, the Cubs recorded a record 116 victories and the best winning percentage (.763) in Major League history. With mostly the same roster, Chicago won back-to-back World Series championships in 1907 and 1908, becoming the first Major League club to play three times in the Fall Classic and the first to win it twice


Yes,it happened a long time ago! It's history,just like 2005!!!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Has any Cubs fan on this board seen their team even play in a World Series, much less win a World Series? Except for possibly Mr Reason, the answer is no.

And with that, /thread.

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Sure, lots of times. On a playstation and on a computer.

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Of course, A.G. Spaulding is now recognized as one of the leaders (if not THE leader) in the move to exclude Black players from the Major Leagues. Proud Cubbie history.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Not anymore....

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Not really.

1 world series in 96 years is what it is.....bad

I'll bet the people who were born and died during the white sox drought would love this post

Your point?

I saw my team win a World Series. 99.999999% of Cubs fans alive today can't say that. Fans would ave to be well into their 70's to even have memories of seeing the Cubs play in a World Series.

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1 world series in 8 years is what it is...good.

The drought was bad but I wasn't even alive for most of it. The moment the Sox won it all I officially stopped caring about the White Sox lack of titles in the 1930s.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

That winning 1 Championship in 95 years is awful. Especially the 87 years straight.

There s no dressing that up with comparisons. Its just pathetic.

Who said it was good?

It just goes to show that 105 years and counting without winning a title is just that much worse. I can't help it that you are jealous of Sox fans that got to see their team win.

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I wasn't alive for many of the 104


But the White Sox have won one World Series in the last 95 years. That's not good. Its awful.

I don't know why some Sox fans have trouble admitting this.

Its always been hilarious to me the whole idea of Sox fans making fun of the Cubs for a long title drought yet they had a similarly pathetic drought in thgpe same years, and some f them truly don't see how ridiculous that position is


Sox fans are a homeless guy with shoes mocking a barefoot homeless guy

No.

This type of position is truly ridiculous;

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Perfect example of what I'm describing

If you could put the Cubs aside for a moment and judge your own teams pathetic streak that's all I'm looking for

But that's not the Sox fan way for many of you

"There's someone worse than us!" Seems to be the motto. I think that's a pathetic way to approach anything.


And no I'm not green or jealous if the white sox. You think being a fan of a team that doesn't win forever makes you dream about a team that wins once a century?

Sorry, my jealousy is reserved for Yankees and Cardinals.

Who doesn't think it was bad? It is just meaningless now. The drought is currently 8 years.
Well, the Cubs drought is historic and ongoing. It's not anything close to the same thing any more because it's over and it wasn't even the worst drought in the sport.
Terrible analogy. In terms of droughts, the White Sox solved the problem. If anything, the Sox are a formerly homeless guy who ended up getting a pretty nice house and is mocking those who used to be in that situation.

You seem to be arguing the White Sox and Cubs are still in similar situations. Until the Cubs win it all the situations aren't comparable at all.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

the 96 year streak you keep harping on is over. If you could put that aside and judge the current streak which is only 8 years. 8 years without a title isn't all that good, but I wouldn't call it pathetic either.

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Many Sox fans in and off this site refuse to acknowledge the losing unto itself

Yes 1 title in 8 years and also 1 title in 95 years


Well, the Cubs drought is historic and ongoing. It's not anything close to the same thing any more because it's over and it wasn't even the worst drought in the sport[/quote]
There's that "Were not the worst" mentality again


Terrible analogy. In terms of droughts, the White Sox solved the problem. If anything, the Sox are a formerly homeless guy who ended up getting a pretty nice house and is mocking those who used to be in that situation.[/quote]
No its a perfect analogy. Winning one world series doesn't take you from homeless to a nice house. The shoes are the title.

And now homeless guy with Nike's is walking around like he's rich but he's not


they Cubs drought is worse. I've never said anything to the contrary. My point is The White Sox are not the Yankees butsome fans think they are.

Its not a streak, just a fact

How many World Series have the Sox won in the last 96 years?

Answer: 1

Its also a fact that the current streak is 8.

Bottom line is that Cubs fans should not be talking about another team's history of winning or lackthereof because their history is the worst in professional sports history. That would be like going to that homeless guy you referred to and asking for financial advice. Its just not a good move to make.

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Frank if you're going to try to get into the analogy were using at least use it properly no one would be asking anyone anything and it has nothing to do with financial advice


And I'm sorry this is a little funny did you just say that a losing team shouldn't be talking about another team because they've lost so much?


Thank you for agreeing with me. That's my point.

Good day, Sir



Oh and the cubs are far from the worst in history

I don't understand your point. The Cubs drought is historic in all American sports. It would be virtually impossible to explain why the Cubs historic ongoing drought compared to the White Sox non-historic, non-ongoing drought without some of that mentality. Literally, you are the worst.
The problem here is being "homeless". The solution is not to be homeless. The problem with the Cubs streak is not winning a title. The solution is to win a title. Therefore, the White Sox are no longer homeless. For your analogy to be correct, the problem with being homeless would have to be a lack of shoes and I don't think that is true.
You are just making things up now.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Whatever you say, Roger. Nobody in this thread inferred that the White Sox are the Yankees, except for you.

But hey there's always next year.....x105

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Right but you said it "wasn't even the worst drought" which is the sox fans way of thinking. Before 05, you had the mentality


The problem here is being "homeless". The solution is not to be homeless. The problem with the Cubs streak is not winning a title. The solution is to win a title. Therefore, the White Sox are no longer homeless. For your analogy to be correct, the problem with being homeless would have to be a lack of shoes and I don't think that is true[/quote]
No see I dont believe that winning one title erases the past. So in the analogy the man has not solved his problem. He's just taken a step towards solving




Bullshit I'm making things up. Sox fans act like they are a great baseball franchise. They are not. That's my point. They have Phillies money but walk around with Yankees swag.

No I did not infer that. Youre realty struggling here , Frank


Bottom line is that Sox fans should not be talking about another team's history of winning or lackthereof because their history is among the worst in professional sports history.

It's not though! Even before they won the title it was completely valid to say the Cubs drought was worse. Now, that the Sox ended the drought, it is even more valid.
The problem is a long streak of losing! In terms of total titles, only 10 teams have more than the White Sox. 12 teams have more than the Cubs. People aren't mocking the Cubs for having only 2 titles. We'd have other teams to mock for 0 or 1 titles.

I don't know where you are getting this. Who are you talking about?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Yes. Valid. Its also valid for a state to claim they are 49th best at something. I'm saying " nothing to brag about"



The problem is a long streak of losing! In terms of total titles, only 10 teams have more than the White Sox. 12 teams have more than the Cubs. People aren't mocking the Cubs for having only 2 titles. We'd have other teams to mock for 0 or 1 titles[/quote]
I disagree. I don't think its just the fact that its a streak. Its a pattern of not winning over decades. I wouldn't feel a ton better if the dubs won the 1945 series




Roughly 75% of Sox fans I've encountered in my life

It was much worse before 05 when they reeeeeeaaallly had nothing to brag about


Basically, I've never been a fan of a loser propping themselves up with comparisons to bigger losers

Of course it is. You just described the Cleveland Indians. The Cubs get significantly more attention than the Indians for futility.
You've gone full Cubs meatball. 75% of Sox fans you have encountered think they are the Yankees?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!